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Chart Listings: Spotify/YouTube/Streaming Discussion Thread
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It's insane that just a few months ago, songs with 3 million US streams in a week were considered rare, yet now 4 songs did it this week and one of them is less than 200K away from 5 million 
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I wish Spotify would give artists the option of only being available on their paid subscription plan. I am a fan of On Demand streaming, as I find it to be more relevant to the song itself than video streaming, which is why I argue On Demand should weigh three to five times heavier in the Hot 100 formula than the streams originating from video sources.
At the same time I can understand the argument from artists, including Taylor Swift, who make next to nothing from the website, but could make more if they were only available on the paid subscription side. Since Spotify ownership is unwilling to work with one of the biggest music stars on the planet, the website unnecessarily leaves money at the table.
Spotify needs to keep all of its options open and available on the table for artists in the coming weeks, months, and years. Giving artists the choice to remain available solely on the pay for play side is one proposal worthy of implementation.
Artists have complained for years about the lack of return on numerous streaming websites. This makes keeping your musicians happy while still staying fair to your customers with a fair monthly subscription fee is vital for survival. I have Spotify, and while I have not used it in several weeks, I do think I need to practice what I preach and upgrade to the paying membership.
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24. Time Of Our Lives (+4) *New peak*
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Originally posted by brianc33616
I wish Spotify would give artists the option of only being available on their paid subscription plan. I am a fan of On Demand streaming, as I find it to be more relevant to the song itself than video streaming, which is why I argue On Demand should weigh three to five times heavier in the Hot 100 formula than the streams originating from video sources.
At the same time I can understand the argument from artists, including Taylor Swift, who make next to nothing from the website, but could make more if they were only available on the paid subscription side. Since Spotify ownership is unwilling to work with one of the biggest music stars on the planet, the website unnecessarily leaves money at the table.
Spotify needs to keep all of its options open and available on the table for artists in the coming weeks, months, and years. Giving artists the choice to remain available solely on the pay for play side is one proposal worthy of implementation.
Artists have complained for years about the lack of return on numerous streaming websites. This makes keeping your musicians happy while still staying fair to your customers with a fair monthly subscription fee is vital for survival. I have Spotify, and while I have not used it in several weeks, I do think I need to practice what I preach and upgrade to the paying membership.
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Agree on almost everything you said except that part where you mention video streams. Sites like VEVO or YouTube are really big around the globe and their biggest market is the US, where they get the most of their views or visits from. If a song gets more than 24 million views on a week, that should be enough to determine it is popular enough to be on top of the Hot 100 or at least top 10. There are people, mostly young teenagers, who can't afford On Demand streaming sites.
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Originally posted by Ger-55
Spotify Achievements
Global
Biggest Streamed Songs In One Week:
1. Mark Ronson featuring Bruno Mars - "Uptown Funk" 14,790,912
Highest Weekly Streaming Songs:
1. Mark Ronson featuring Bruno Mars - "Uptown Funk" 14,790,912
2. Mark Ronson featuring Bruno Mars - "Uptown Funk" 13,388,603
US
Biggest Streamed Songs In One Week:
1. Mark Ronson featuring Bruno Mars - "Uptown Funk" 4,842,359
Highest Weekly Streaming Songs:
1. Mark Ronson featuring Bruno Mars - "Uptown Funk" 4,842,359
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Originally posted by abrahamjmr
Agree on almost everything you said except that part where you mention video streams. Sites like VEVO or YouTube are really big around the globe and their biggest market is the US, where they get the most of their views or visits from. If a song gets more than 24 million views on a week, that should be enough to determine it is popular enough to be on top of the Hot 100 or at least top 10. There are people, mostly young teenagers, who can't afford On Demand streaming sites. |
Do not worry, check out these calculations: If a song received 24 million video streams, that would equal 8 million On-Demand Streams with a 3:1 ratio, 6 million On-Demand Streams with a 4:1 ratio, and equal 4.8 million On-Demand Streams with a 5:1 ratio.
Songs with a high level of video streaming would still get a lot of streaming points. This would just help to equal out how the points contribute to the Hot 100 formula.
A 3:1 ratio would make the average video songs equal, while the 4:1 ad 5:1 would give On-Demand the edge, unless there is a very high number of video streams, like the 24 million figure you gave above.
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01/19/2015
1. Uptown Funk *19 days at #1*
2. Thinking Out Loud (+1)
3. Take Me To Church (-1)
4. GDFR
5. Love Me Harder (+2)
6. I Don't F*ck With You (-1)
7. Only (-1)
8. Earned It (Fifty Shades Of Grey) [+4] *New peak*
9. Lips Are Movin (-1)
10. Love Me Like You Do (+7) *New peak*
11. I Don't Mind
12. 7/11 (-3)
13. I'm Not The Only One
14. No Type (-4)
15. Jealous (-1)
16. Stay With Me
17. Riptide (+3)
18. Centuries (-3)
19. Sugar (+7) *New peak*
20. The Heart Wants What It Wants (-1)
21. Time Of Our Lives (+3) *New peak*
22. Animals (-1)
23. Shut Up And Dance (+2)
24. All About That Bass (-1)
25. Bang Bang (-3)
26. Tuesday (-8)
27. Night Changes (+2)
29. Outside (+3)
31. Heroes (we could be) [-4]
33. Often (+1)
34. Sledgehammer (+2)
41. Firestone (+6)
42. CoCo (-5)
46. Elastic Heart (+15) *New peak*
49. I'm Not The Only One (feat. A$AP Rocky)
54. She Knows (-1)
55. I'm Gonna Show You Crazy (+9)
57. Ghost (+5)
58. Feeling Myself (-4)
60. Cheerleader (Felix Jaehn Remix Radio Edit) [-5]
64. No Role Modelz (-5)
68. Wet Dreamz
73. The Hanging Tree (+2)
76. G.O.M.D. (-3)
80. Bed Of Lies (+5)
81. Only One (+6) *New peak*
83. Mess Is Mine (+13)
86. Geronimo (+4)
87. Home To Mama (+4)
88. Photograph (+7)
89. Prayer In C (-3)
94. Beggin For Thread (RE-ENTRY)
95. Tenerife Sea (+5)
96. Wrapped Up (RE-ENTRY)
98. Apparently (+1)
99. Stuck On A Feeling (NEW)
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8. Earned It (Fifty Shades Of Grey) [+4] *New peak*
21. Time Of Our Lives (+3) *New peak*
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Love Me Like You Do top 10
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01/20/2015
1. Uptown Funk *20 days at #1*
2. Thinking Out Loud
3. Take Me To Church
4. GDFR
5. Only (+2)
6. Earned It (Fifty Shades Of Grey) [+2] *New peak*
7. I Don't F*ck With You (-1)
8. Love Me Harder (-3)
9. Love Me Like You Do (+1) *New peak*
10. I'm Not The Only One (+3)
11. I Don't Mind
12. Lips Are Movin (-3)
13. Centuries (+5) *New peak*
14. 7/11 (-2)
15. Stay With Me (+1)
16. No Type (-2)
17. Sugar (+2) *New peak*
18. Jealous (-3)
19. Riptide (-2)
20. The Heart Wants What It Wants
21. Shut Up And Dance (+2)
22. Time Of Our Lives (-1)
24. Animals (-2)
25. Night Changes (+2)
27. Tuesday (-1)
28. Bang Bang (-3)
29. All About That Bass (-5)
30. Outside (-1)
31. Heroes (we could be)
33. Often
37. Sledgehammer (-3)
41. Firestone
42. Elastic Heart (+4) *New peak*
45. CoCo (-3)
49. I'm Not The Only One (feat. A$AP Rocky)
50. She Knows (+4) *New peak*
55. Ghost (+2)
57. Feeling Myself (+1)
58. No Role Modelz (+6)
60. Wet Dreamz (+8)
61. Cheerleader (Felix Jaehn Remix Radio Edit) [-1]
63. I'm Gonna Show You Crazy (-8)
67. G.O.M.D. (+9)
69. Bed Of Lies (+11)
74. Geronimo (+12)
76. The Kids Aren't Alright (NEW)
80. Fourth Of July (NEW)
81. Only One
82. Mess Is Mine (+1)
83. Uma Thurman (RE-ENTRY)
85. Photograph (+3)
88. The Hanging Tree (-15)
89. Apparently (+9)
90. Home To Mama (-3)
91. Prayer In C (-2)
95. Tenerife Sea
96. Irresistible (NEW)
94. Beggin For Thread (-6)
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Why isn't Ciara's "I Bet" on this? It streamed about 2.5 million throughout the passed week.
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12. Lips Are Movin (-3)
Next single pls.
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Quote:
Originally posted by brianc33616
I wish Spotify would give artists the option of only being available on their paid subscription plan. I am a fan of On Demand streaming, as I find it to be more relevant to the song itself than video streaming, which is why I argue On Demand should weigh three to five times heavier in the Hot 100 formula than the streams originating from video sources.
At the same time I can understand the argument from artists, including Taylor Swift, who make next to nothing from the website, but could make more if they were only available on the paid subscription side. Since Spotify ownership is unwilling to work with one of the biggest music stars on the planet, the website unnecessarily leaves money at the table.
Spotify needs to keep all of its options open and available on the table for artists in the coming weeks, months, and years. Giving artists the choice to remain available solely on the pay for play side is one proposal worthy of implementation.
Artists have complained for years about the lack of return on numerous streaming websites. This makes keeping your musicians happy while still staying fair to your customers with a fair monthly subscription fee is vital for survival. I have Spotify, and while I have not used it in several weeks, I do think I need to practice what I preach and upgrade to the paying membership.
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It's a cute idea but it goes against Spotify principles. Being a "freemium" service is their differential and other on-demand streaming services are/have starting to copy it.
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Time Of Our Lives, girl don't slow down now. 
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