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Discussion: white kid does presentation on reverse racism, gets dragged
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Originally posted by cancer
You're completely mis-characterizing their intention and clearly letting your anger and bias affect your assumptions.
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So tell me, what's their intention when they rebuttal with those comments?
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it was more than one? omg. this is excellent
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Originally posted by MissAmericanDream
Yes I did
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Then the context of his presentation is pretty clear. Read it again slower this time and pay attention to his use of punctuation. And then refer to the response videos from his classmates. I think we can all get the message
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Originally posted by PeggySue22
So tell me, what's their intention when they rebuttal with those comments?
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Their intentions were probably good. I don't fully blame them, because they are obviously just very passionate and emotional about that issue, which is great.
When you want to debate or educate, passion is completely fine (and preferred). Emotions, however, have to be set aside.
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Originally posted by PeggySue22
So tell me, what's their intention when they rebuttal with those comments?
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They're not comparing their struggles to yours nor are they saying they want to be oppressed. It just doesn't seem right to isolate an entire group of people by saying things like "white people have been evil since the beginning of time'' , no one can be racist towards white people, white people don't understand this or that, etc. You can find so many white people today that support black rights and equality but with blacks making untrue and rude characterizations about white people, it turns them off and they become less supportive. You make fun of people that say "we all bleed red" and how that wont end racism but surely with your attitude about white people racism won't end with that method either.
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Originally posted by PeggySue22
South Africa =/= North America
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Sweetie don't put words into my mouth, you made a blanket statement. next time don't say any room, any where, any time. How was I supposed to know "any where" in your world meant North America?
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Originally posted by St. Charles
Their intentions were probably good. I don't fully blame them, because they are obviously just very passionate and emotional about that issue, which is great.
When you want to debate or educate, passion is completely fine (and preferred). Emotions, however, have to be set aside.
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What are you on about? There was nothing over emotional about their reactions, apart from the kids who were cackling but they didn't seem to have a contributiom to the discussion anyway
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Originally posted by Javan
What are you on about? There was nothing over emotional about their reactions, apart from the kids who were cackling but they didn't seem to have a contributiom to the discussion anyway
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Don't you know? anyone who speaks on topics like this no matter the tone you're "oversensitive" or "emotional."
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Originally posted by Javan
What are you on about? There was nothing over emotional about their reactions, apart from the kids who were cackling but they didn't seem to have a contributiom to the discussion anyway
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The girl didn't really seem emotional to me. I'm not saying that they were overly-emotional. But they were kind of oblivious to how they might have been making him feel. However, the same can be said about the boy being oblivious enough to others in the class to create that presentation in the first place.
When I said emotional, I was just talking about how it can be easy to be aggressive and intimidating when you're highly emotional about an issue.
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White people colonized the world and made it so literally if you go to North America, South America, The Caribbean, Africa, Europe & Australia white people usually make up the more prosperous class(I haven't read much about Asia so I'll omit that)
But someone they'd managed to convince themselves and even other POC themselves that it's just a coincidence and that in a few short years all they have to do is well basically act like white people and all of a sudden decades of wrong doing will be fixed and all the playing fields will be even.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by cancer
They're not comparing their struggles to yours nor are they saying they want to be oppressed. It just doesn't seem right to isolate an entire group of people by saying things like "white people have been evil since the beginning of time'' , no one can be racist towards white people, white people don't understand this or that, etc. You can find so many white people today that support black rights and equality but with blacks making untrue and rude characterizations about white people, it turns them off and they become less supportive. You make fun of people that say "we all bleed red" and how that wont end racism but surely with your attitude about white people racism won't end with that method either.
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Well in america, racism is pretty much white supremacy. If you think about it whites and even non-whites had to maintain a higher opinion of that for white supremacy to upheld. It wouldn't hurt to know them down a peg or two
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Originally posted by I Am Music
Don't you know? anyone who speaks on topics like this no matter the tone you're "oversensitive" or "emotional."
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I hope you're not referring to me, because I never called them overly sensitive, nor do I think they are. I said that they may have been emotional about the issue, but I also said that there was nothing wrong with that, except that they should just pay attention to how they might be intimidating him or "scaring him off" from talking about the issue.
It's best that everyone feels comfortable to talk about this, so that it isn't continuously swept under the rug.
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11 pages and reverse racism still isnt real.
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Originally posted by cancer
They're not comparing their struggles to yours nor are they saying they want to be oppressed. It just doesn't seem right to isolate an entire group of people by saying things like "white people have been evil since the beginning of time'' , no one can be racist towards white people, white people don't understand this or that, etc. You can find so many white people today that support black rights and equality but with blacks making untrue and rude characterizations about white people, it turns them off and they become less supportive. You make fun of people that say "we all bleed red" and how that wont end racism but surely with your attitude about white people racism won't end with that method either.
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Hmmm yeah & I wonder where blacks learned to make untrue and rude characterizations about people who are a different color?
And that "we al bleed red" is bs because it over looks that fact that people see color. You can't sweep racism under the rug when this country was literally build on it and is still profiting on it today.
Say what you want, but fact is there are very few white people, if any that would trade places with black people in America. And there's a reason for that.
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Originally posted by Javan
Well in america, racism is pretty much white supremacy. If you think about it whites and even non-whites had to maintain a higher opinion of that for white supremacy to upheld. It wouldn't hurt to know them down a peg or two
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That's never a good solution.
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Originally posted by Javan
What are you on about? There was nothing over emotional about their reactions, apart from the kids who were cackling but they didn't seem to have a contributiom to the discussion anyway
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Originally posted by I Am Music
Don't you know? anyone who speaks on topics like this no matter the tone you're "oversensitive" or "emotional."
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That poster most likely didn't mean to imply this, but his comments just remind me of when I learned that minorities & women were only able to study things regarding them back in the day whereas white men could literally study any and everyone and the reasoning was because it was believed that White men could look at things objectively, whereas women and minorities relied too much on emotion.
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Originally posted by Callisto.
That poster most likely didn't mean to imply this, but his comments just remind me of when I learned that minorities & women were only able to study things regarding them back in the day whereas white men could literally study any and everyone and the reasoning was because it was believed that White men could look at things objectively, whereas women and minorities relied too much on emotion.
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Kiii, no. I don't think that last part. I'm not saying that opinions are invalid because they're based on emotion.
I'm saying that if you're emotional it can be easy to intimidate someone and "shut them down."
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Originally posted by Callisto.
White people colonized the world and made it so literally if you go to North America, South America, The Caribbean, Africa, Europe & Australia white people usually make up the more prosperous class(I haven't read much about Asia so I'll omit that)
But someone they'd managed to convince themselves and even other POC themselves that it's just a coincidence and that in a few short years all they have to do is well basically act like white people and all of a sudden decades of wrong doing will be fixed and all the playing fields will be even.
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what do you consider acting like a white person If I may ask?
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Originally posted by PeggySue22
Hmmm yeah & I wonder where blacks learned to make untrue and rude characterizations about people who are a different color?
And that "we al bleed red" is bs because it over looks that fact that people see color. You can't sweep racism under the rug when this country was literally build on it and is still profiting on it today.
Say what you want, but fact is there are very few white people, if any that would trade places with black people in America. And there's a reason for that.
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It's not though.
Yes we see the color but some of us don't attach that color to a certain sterotype.
I personally don't equate all black people, or hispanic people, or white people, etc to the negative sterotypes that they've been given.
That's what people mean when they say they "don't see color". It's not a literal sentiment but one to promote seeing beyond a persons race when making judgements about them.
You guys keep screaming "systemic racism!" "systemic racism!" but change MUST come from the individuals first. You can't change systemic racism first and the individual racism second. You guys have to change individual thoughts first to improve the system. By being condescending and rude to other races does not help promote equality.
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