[Exzime.]

Originally posted by OriginalDoll.

the netizen is coming for u cl

They already did:

1. [+737, -264] As if being ugly wasn't enough, she causes controversies like this now

[Butters]

Originally posted by Sept

OK, so did CL just shade herself and her own members, or did Bom lie?

ok but why does her personal life/how she lives it matter here? her public persona exudes confidence, and that's how she's viewed by the public

[Attitude]

Nnnnn

She better pray she succeeds in the U.S. because if she has to go back to Korea this may bite her in the ass.

[minho]

As a member of an Asian culture with three sisters and many friends and family who are from (several) different Asian cultures I honestly get what she is trying to say.

It's not a bad thing, nor is she shaming anyone. What I got from her statement was that in many different cultures in Asia there is a tendency for girls to be silenced or forced to conform into "obedient" roles. All she wants is to allow people, and especially girls, to get inspired by being different and speaking up for themselves. Obviously not all Asian girls are like this, but there is a tendency for many girls to have to deal with this kind of patriarchal system where they aren't allowed to be as free as they can within their cultures. I've witnessed it, my friends and family have witnessed it, and likely CL has experienced it as well.

And also, it's not like she's saying she's the "first" or anything, she just wants to let it be known that that is what she stands for. Of course there are many strong and independent Asian women who are icons. She isn't claiming that she's the only one, she's just talking about how important it is.

This thread is just...

[Comedor]

Not everyone want to be naked and posting pics of smoke and ****.

Men or women.

But she better drag her fans.

[BTrisc]

Originally posted by Inverted

Except what she described is a pan-Asian stereotype of women all over Asia regardless of region/ethnicity so that's not the problem. Most people aren't complaining about her claim that she's conquered Asia (which is laughable because she's unknown to the vast majority of Asians). They're offended by her generalization of any Asians and many of the members complaining are East and Southeast Asian themselves.



The Asian countries she's toured are a tiny part of Asia.

Right, but there are enough that she shouldn't have to list every damn one just to protect herself from SJWs who get offended by using Asia as an umbrella term. It's kinda obvious she's not referring to every country in Asia.

[Inverted]

Originally posted by BTrisc

Right, but there are enough that she shouldn't have to list every damn one just to protect herself from SJWs who get offended by using Asia as an umbrella term. It's kinda obvious she's not referring to every country in Asia.

She's not using Asia as an umbrella term; she's using it as a term for 2-3 countries where there are over 50 in Asia. That's not offensive. It's just false and laughable. She claimed that she's "done enough for Asia," but 99% of Asia has no idea who she is.

And again, the people in this thread responding negatively to her quotes aren't offended by her use of "Asia." They're complaining about her generalization of (any) Asian women.

[Aurora]

[Butters]

Originally posted by Inverted

She's not using Asia as an umbrella term; she's using it as a term for 2-3 countries where there are over 50 in Asia. That's not offensive. It's just false and laughable. She claimed that she's "done enough for Asia," but 99% of Asia has no idea who she is.

And again, the people in this thread responding negatively to her quotes aren't offended by her use of "Asia." They're complaining about her generalization of (any) Asian women.

Koreans generally use the term asians as an umbrella term for east Asia mostly (China/Korea/Japan), it probably was a language barrier at fault for that. I hope she puts out a statement that clarifies everything

[fememeist]

She better call out the other girls from her previous group

[Britz_rulz]

Originally posted by DerpGa

cuz to me asian is korea china japan and idk

i have more than million songs i don't have the time to listen tbh

ignorant and disgusting.

[Inverted]

Originally posted by Butters

Koreans generally use the term asians as an umbrella term for east Asia mostly (China/Korea/Japan), it probably was a language barrier at fault for that. I hope she puts out a statement that clarifies everything

That's false. I spent a week in Seoul in college and people I met specifically acknowledged regions of Asia outside East Asia. In fact, the one South Korean national right here on ATRL always refers to specific parts of Asia when he gives stats about his fave. And it's definitely not a language barrier because CL speaks English fluently. The fact is that this is North American vernacular and she's speaking to an American so she's pandering to their limited viewpoint. Besides, saying "Asian superstar" is a lot more appealing to a "South Korean superstar."

Either way, that "I've done enough for Asia" line isn't a big deal. It's just not true and it's awkward to read.

[Pastoral]

Originally posted by Mean Trees

South Korea generally is patriarchal. That is hardly the women's fault. She needs to stop throwing Asia under the bus. I doubt she would say this to a Korean journalist.

True.

[jose168]

I've seen like two jolin tsai videos and those are bolder and push more boundaries than anything cl's ever done lol. Since when is being part of a manufactured girl group bold

[jomarr]

Well that was ****ing annoying.

She's basically a nobody outside the Internet and South Korea and she said she has done enough for Asia? Holy ****.

[jomarr]

Originally posted by DerpGa

cuz to me asian is korea china japan and idk

i have more than million songs i don't have the time to listen tbh

Then you have no say in this thread. So embarrassing

[Soup in Teapot]

Pretentious as ****. Bye.