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Discussion: Is Lana the biggest female newcomer of the decade?
Member Since: 4/23/2012
Posts: 20,204
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Originally posted by suburbannature
Nicki is much more of a pop artist than Lana, who has so far released a Portishead-esque trip hop album and a bluesy rock album. Keep trying to make excuses, though.
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Nicki is credited as being Rapper while Lana is credited with being a pop artist.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
Posts: 3,048
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Quote:
Originally posted by ryanpittman97
Nicki is credited as being Rapper while Lana is credited with being a pop artist.
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Lana is considered to be a "popular" alternative artist, dear.
Nicki is the one who actually makes those awful, sell-out pop songs.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
Posts: 4,199
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yes queen lana only getting bigger and bigger each era
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
Posts: 13,402
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nicki her tour receipts
Hordern Pavilion
Sydney
5,377 / 5,377 (100%)
$490,692
Fox Theatre
Atlanta
4,357 / 4,545 (96%)
$282,785
lana's
O2 World Hamburg, Germany
April 6, 2013
$461,282
9.489 / 10.532
Bell Centre Montreal, Quebec
May 5, 2014
$574,794
10,225 / 10,225
Auditorio Nacional
Mexico City, Mexico
6-7, 2014
$1,503,773
18,367 /19,040
lana selling more tickets overall and WW
only if her tickets were more expensive
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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This thread I do think Lana's success is overrated on ATRL.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
Posts: 3,048
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Originally posted by Raava
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Look at the lack of competition in 2013 after the top 5-7. Hence her Grammys as well.
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
Posts: 20,204
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Quote:
Originally posted by suburbannature
Lana is considered to be a "popular" alternative artist, dear.
Nicki is the one who actually makes those awful, sell-out pop songs.
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Alternative music sell much better WW than Hip-Hop as well.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 12,760
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Quote:
Originally posted by Raava
Ultraviolence was considered the... 13th best album of 2014... Behind a pop album (1989) And it was the only album on the list with a score below 75
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fff the way you try and make this seem like a bad thing.
What has acclaim got to do with how big an artist is anyways? The most successful artists right now are not necessarily the most acclaimed.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
Posts: 3,048
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I would take these Nicki fanboys and their fave seriously if she was actually a talented rapper and created something like Broke With Expensive Taste, but we all know that will never happen.
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Member Since: 4/6/2014
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Don't really care for her music but for a woman, yes. All together with men included? No.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 4,514
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
She's done ONE remix with Beyoncé and being a rapper generally she's going to do more collaborations which further proves my point that Nicki is far more successful, more known, and more relevant than Lana which is what the thread asked.
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I used the remixes to prove my point that nicki is still promoting ha album low-key.
Everyone can do remixes, it's not a matter of relevance, it's a matter of being strategic. Nicki wouldn't do remixes with unknown rappers because she knows it wouldnt give much promo to her. Nicki WANTS to do remixes, Nicki WANTS to do collabs.
Lana doesnt, it's not because there arent any artists that would collab with her, she does have artists that would jump on the first chance to collab with Lana, she just doesnt want to, she's an artist that only delivers the music and that's it, she only cares about the music, if you dont think that's fascinating in a world where people sell themselves instead of the music, I can't do anything for you.
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
Posts: 20,204
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Quote:
Originally posted by ultraviolento
nicki her tour receipts
Hordern Pavilion
Sydney
5,377 / 5,377 (100%)
$490,692
Fox Theatre
Atlanta
4,357 / 4,545 (96%)
$282,785
lana's
O2 World Hamburg, Germany
April 6, 2013
$461,282
9.489 / 10.532
Bell Centre Montreal, Quebec
May 5, 2014
$574,794
10,225 / 10,225
Auditorio Nacional
Mexico City, Mexico
6-7, 2014
$1,503,773
18,367 /19,040
lana selling more tickets overall and WW
only if her tickets were more expensive
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Nicki's tour happened 3 years ago when she received heavy backlash from PF:RR she hasn't toured since then.
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
Posts: 31,849
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For me Yes. she's my most listened to artist this decade other than my fave. Lana injects something that is the exact opposite of what see and hear on radio and music videos today.
wait, as much as id hate to admit it probably katy or nicki have more impact. but not for me personally.
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Member Since: 9/3/2011
Posts: 14,867
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Quote:
Originally posted by suburbannature
I would take these Nicki fanboys and their fave seriously if she was actually a talented rapper and created something like Broke With Expensive Taste, but we all know that will never happen.
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These bitches ma suns
Her verse on Maroon 5's sing is so embarrassing and trashy, it's just her keying up her material gains, yet again.
Lana Del Rey >>>>
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
Posts: 13,402
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Quote:
Originally posted by ryanpittman97
Alternative music sell much better WW than Hip-Hop as well.
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uv is a blues-rock album honey
and it sold 1.3m
can u name other blues-rock album that has sold this amount of copies ww? i mean, tbk's turn blue comes close but it sold 900k (more than tpp too ) so yeah
and drake will prob outsell lana overall (just like he outsold nicki within 2 weeks lol) so this "rap is local" excuse wont get u far
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
Posts: 20,204
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Quote:
Originally posted by HotHeaven
I used the remixes to prove my point that nicki is still promoting ha album low-key.
Everyone can do remixes, it's not a matter of relevance, it's a matter of being strategic. Nicki wouldn't do remixes with unknown rappers because she knows it wouldnt give much promo to her. Nicki WANTS to do remixes, Nicki WANTS to do collabs.
Lana doesnt, it's not because there arent any artists that would collab with her, she does have artists that would jump on the first chance to collab with Lana, she just doesnt want to, she's an artist that only delivers the music and that's it, she only cares about the music, if you dont think that's fascinating in a world where people sell themselves instead of the music, I can't do anything for you.
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The artist who are working with Nicki are benefitting from this more so than Nicki herself and who has Nicki done a remix with this year besides Maroon 5? Lana isn't asked to be on anybody's remix because no one wants her on their remix.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Extra stats.
All-time top 10 streamed women globally on Spotify:
1. Rihanna
2. Katy Perry
3. Beyoncé
4. Lana Del Rey
5. Lady Gaga
6. Ariana Grande
7. Nicki Minaj
8. Ellie Goulding
9. Taylor Swift**
10. Lorde
All-time top 10 streamed women in the U.S. on Spotify:
1. Lana Del Rey
2. Beyoncé
3. Katy Perry
4. Lorde
5. Ariana Grande
6. Rihanna
7. Nicki Minaj
8. Taylor Swift**
9. Miley Cyrus
10. Ellie Goulding
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All-time most streamed female artists by women on Spotify, worldwide:
1. Beyoncé
2. Katy Perry
3. Lana Del Rey
4. Rihanna
5. Ariana Grande
6. Lorde
7. Miley Cyrus
8. Taylor Swift**
9. Ellie Goulding
All-time most streamed female artists by women on Spotify in the U.S:
1. Beyoncé
2. Lana Del Rey
3. Katy Perry
4. Ariana Grande
5. Lorde
6. Rihanna
7. Taylor Swift**
8. Miley Cyrus
9. Nicki Minaj
10. Iggy Azalea
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All-time most streamed female artists by men on Spotify, worldwide:
1. Katy Perry
2. Lana Del Rey
3. Lorde
4. Ariana Grande
5. Rihanna
6. Beyoncé
7. Ellie Goulding
8. Miley Cyrus
9. Lady Gaga
10. Iggy Azalea
All-time most streamed female artists by men on Spotify in the U.S.
1. Lorde
2. Lana Del Rey
3. Katy Perry
4. Beyoncé
5. Rihanna
6. Nicki Minaj
7. Ellie Goulding
8. Iggy Azalea
9. Taylor Swift**
10. Lady Gaga
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Member Since: 6/15/2011
Posts: 10,115
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Quote:
Originally posted by suburbannature
Lorde would never sell 6 million WW and Pure Heroine didn't make two dozen end-of-year lists by top critics like UV. She had one big hit and an her album sold relatively well as a result.
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It's funny because Pure Heroine actually got a higher metacritic score. But then UV did make several year end lists. The transparent I mean. They gave UV not-so-high scores (although it's 74 overall) at first because of the backlash that Lana got during the BTD era, but then they changed their minds and put it in their year end lists I am 100% sure if UV was Lana's debut album and SNL's performance never happened, UV would have at least got an 80.
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
Posts: 20,204
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Quote:
Originally posted by ultraviolento
uv is a blues-rock album honey
and it sold 1.3m
can u name other blues-rock album that has sold this amount of copies ww? i mean, tbk's turn blue comes close but it sold 900k (more than tpp too ) so yeah
and drake will prob outsell lana overall (just like he outsold nicki within 2 weeks lol) so this "rap is local" excuse wont get u far
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So wait Lana is blues-rock now? I though she was an "Alternative Pop" artist? and most of Drake's sales are coming from the US which is the case with all rappers who aren't white.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 16,461
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Quote:
Originally posted by Raava
Lorde is bigger and also more critically acclaimed.
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Just because you keep on repeating it doesn't make it right, just saying.
I can't believe that ppl get rilled up by the post of a Gaga stan and delusional Lana hater
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