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Discussion: Is the Prism era bigger than Unapologetic era?
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You know that in most of those countries iTunes is completely irrelevant? Point made tho I guess. Diamonds is charting higher. But Roar still sold more. (at least US, not sure about WW)
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Originally posted by newwil7l
Recipts for Una selling 3.7 million please
And sis...
Brings it to an average of $1.478 million per date. And this is like her 5th tour isn't it?
Enough with these sad inflations.
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using mediatraffic that has Prism at 1.4M this year
http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=662667
and 1.8M the last year
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Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e
You know that in most of those countries iTunes is completely irrelevant? Point made tho I guess. Diamonds is charting higher. But Roar still sold more. (at least US, not sure about WW)
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So memes is a yes but ITunes receipts is a no?
K then
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Originally posted by lonnie
So memes is a yes but ITunes receipts is a no?
K then
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I said point made man.
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Originally posted by lonnie
And rihanna's songs are still charting better worldwide, despite Katy's being more recent and receiving more promo:
Rihanna
Katy
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Charting better in countries where 1 sale can propel you to the top 100?
Roar and Dark Horse have already outsold Stay and Diamonds worldwide and are selling more per weak.
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Originally posted by newwil7l
Charting better in countries where 1 sale can propel you to the top 100?
Roar and Dark Horse have already outsold Stay and Diamonds worldwide and are selling more per weak.
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Diamonds is top 50 in over 55 countries alone
What are you saying? I stated that she's still charting better worldwide with the songs, of which she is, isn't Katy even just one spot ahead of her generally even with a new single and video out?
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oh and btw, rih still has the higher tour average,
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Leg Average gross per show Average attendance per show
UK (Billboard) $1,059,844 11,721
UK (Billboard + Pollstar)** $1,097,606 12,494
North America $1,429,427 13,521
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An average of 1.19M while rih did more than that
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Originally posted by idkher
Lmao Unapologetic still sold more though. Do you girls ever read?
Rihanna sold more albums and I'm positive her average gross per tour date will be higher than Katy's tour. I would say they are almost even in the singles department considering Diamonds, Stay and Pour it Up were all huge while Katy has had two major underperformances that had big video releases and promo!
Also I am dying @ the Katy stans acting like Prism didn't get Taylor Swift level promo. Katy performed at literally every award show, dozens of talk shows, had the Prism truck drive through multiple countries and had a Clear Channel takeover during album release week
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Pour it up huge?
and Katy had the Prism truck while Riri had the 777 tour
so let's not
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Originally posted by lonnie
It's at 3.2M to start with and what's more it isn't even charting anymore so why are you making it seem like it's doing any better
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Originally posted by newwil7l
Let's not act like Rih didn't have a lot of promo either.
They sold the same amount of albums. (Prism will sell more in the long run)
And Katy's gross per date is already higher than the diamonds tour.
Plus she absolutely obliterates her in streaming and single sales.
Just accept defeat.
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Quote:
Originally posted by newwil7l
Not even that. Rihanna really hasn't felt big since loud to be honest. Well at least here in the States.
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Originally posted by newwil7l
Cling to that 100k sales advantage sis. Just remember that the market declined like 10% in album sales year over year
Prism (Out for 1 year): 3.4 million (still selling)
Unapologetic (Out for 2 years): 3.5 million (No longer selling)
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Quote:
Originally posted by newwil7l
It's like the Navy thinks Stay popularized piano ballads or something which gives it tons of impact
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Quote:
Originally posted by newwil7l
Recipts for Una selling 3.7 million please
And sis...
Brings it to an average of $1.478 million per date. And this is like her 5th tour isn't it?
Enough with these sad inflations.
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Quote:
Originally posted by 2AM
The DWT averaged 1.4M not 1.9M.
$141.9M/96 = $1,478,125
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Originally posted by newwil7l
3.4 million actually according to chartnews.
And Prism will revive for Superbowl. Have no worries.
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that Riri stan has been dragged to the gates of hell and back...and he is still here
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Originally posted by SeanET
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Do you even know the meaning of the word?
Who the hell dragged me?
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Quote:
Originally posted by lonnie
And rihanna's songs are still charting better worldwide, despite Katy's being more recent and receiving more promo:
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let's do this again with the "hide small countries" option
Diamonds
#60 France
#103 Spain
#119 Russia
#163 Germany
#194 Philippines
Stay
#135 New Zealand
#156 Belgium
Pour It Up
#179 Turkey
Roar
#104 India
#112 Australia
#118 South Africa
#119 Indonesia
#120 Ireland
#132 Norway
#134 New Zealand
#173 Mexico
#180 Philippines
#192 United Kingdom
#195 Canada
Dark Horse
#37 Ireland
#43 United Kingdom
#53 Philippines
#68 Russia
#73 South Africa
#101 Switzerland
#106 Brazil
#112 Mexico
#117 Belgium
#138 Indonesia
#141 France
#142 Netherlands
#142 Sweden
#146 Australia
#151 India
#156 Canada
#156 New Zealand
#164 United States
#192 Italy
#196 Germany
This Is How We Do
#44 Canada
#59 South Africa
#62 Switzerland
#68 Australia
#79 Mexico
#89 Indonesia
#99 United States
#105 Belgium
#111 Netherlands
#118 Germany
#130 Ireland
#137 New Zealand
#151 France
#164 Thailand
#173 Norway
#193 United Kingdom
#195 Turkey
enjoy!
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Quote:
Originally posted by lonnie
oh and btw, rih still has the higher tour average,
An average of 1.19M while rih did more than that
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With 68 dates reported Katy has grossed $ 97,103,229
Which gives an average of $1,427,989 per date. Around the same as DWT despite Katy being a fresh act and only on her second headlining tour. The Superbowl will also do wonders for her touring power. Oh and don't forget about Australia, Katy is huge there. Her touring numbers there will pick up her average gross per date.
And as for Katy only being one spot above Rih on global iTunes. Rih has 7 albums with several singles from each. Katy has 3 with a lot of singles.
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Quote:
Originally posted by lonnie
Do you even know the meaning of the word?
Who the hell dragged me?
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Quote:
Originally posted by newwil7l
With 68 dates reported Katy has grossed $ 97,103,229
Which gives an average of $1,427,989 per date. Around the same as DWT despite Katy being a fresh act and only on her second headlining tour. The Superbowl will also do wonders for her touring power.
And as for Katy only being one spot above Rih on global iTunes. Rih has 7 albums with several singles from each. Katy has 3 with a lot of singles.
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don't forget Rihanna's multiple collabos
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Quote:
Originally posted by newwil7l
With 68 dates reported Katy has grossed $ 97,103,229
Which gives an average of $1,427,989 per date. Around the same as DWT despite Katy being a fresh act and only on her second headlining tour. The Superbowl will also do wonders for her touring power.
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The Aussie leg is also coming up, it's going to raise her average above Rihs!
(Though Europe might even it out again tbh)
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Quote:
Originally posted by newwil7l
Not even that. Rihanna really hasn't felt big since loud to be honest. Well at least here in the States.
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Lmao what on earth? Rihanna's celebrity has gotten literally 100x bigger than Loud. Stop lying to yourself.
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Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e
Forever perpetuating stereotypes.
140,118,252 in total gross /96 dates
= average gross of 1,459,565...
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I think PWT's average gross right now is about 1.35 million but the Australian leg in a week will definitely raise that way up.
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DWT average gross is actually $1.6 million per show since only 89 dates were counted into the total gross of $142 million. Australia will be big for Katy but it's not a big enough market for her to bring her average gross up $300k per show It's not like she's coming for Pink slayage. And she still has Europe left and we all know what happened last time she was there..
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Originally posted by idkher
Lmao what on earth? Rihanna's celebrity has gotten literally 100x bigger than Loud. Stop lying to yourself.
DWT average gross is actually $1.6 million per show since only 89 dates were counted into the total gross of $142 million. Australia will be big for Katy but it's not a big enough market for her to bring her average gross up $300k per show It's not like she's coming for Pink slayage. And she still has Europe left and we all know what happened last time she was there..
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Is that so?
According to Forbes her press power is rather weak. Explain.
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Quote:
Originally posted by SeanET
don't forget Rihanna's multiple collabos
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She actually only had two, and one remix, but Katy also had collabs, didn't she have one with Mayer?
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Originally posted by SeanET
let's do this again with the "hide small countries" option
Diamonds
#60 France
#103 Spain
#119 Russia
#163 Germany
#194 Philippines
Stay
#135 New Zealand
#156 Belgium
Pour It Up
#179 Turkey
Roar
#104 India
#112 Australia
#118 South Africa
#119 Indonesia
#120 Ireland
#132 Norway
#134 New Zealand
#173 Mexico
#180 Philippines
#192 United Kingdom
#195 Canada
Dark Horse
#37 Ireland
#43 United Kingdom
#53 Philippines
#68 Russia
#73 South Africa
#101 Switzerland
#106 Brazil
#112 Mexico
#117 Belgium
#138 Indonesia
#141 France
#142 Netherlands
#142 Sweden
#146 Australia
#151 India
#156 Canada
#156 New Zealand
#164 United States
#192 Italy
#196 Germany
This Is How We Do
#44 Canada
#59 South Africa
#62 Switzerland
#68 Australia
#79 Mexico
#89 Indonesia
#99 United States
#105 Belgium
#111 Netherlands
#118 Germany
#130 Ireland
#137 New Zealand
#151 France
#164 Thailand
#173 Norway
#193 United Kingdom
#195 Turkey
enjoy!
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what even?
Thailand all of a sudden becoming a big music market
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Originally posted by SeanET
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clearly not
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Originally posted by newwil7l
With 68 dates reported Katy has grossed $ 97,103,229
Which gives an average of $1,427,989 per date. Around the same as DWT despite Katy being a fresh act and only on her second headlining tour. The Superbowl will also do wonders for her touring power. Oh and don't forget about Australia, Katy is huge there. Her touring numbers there will pick up her average gross per date.
And as for Katy only being one spot above Rih on global iTunes. Rih has 7 albums with several singles from each. Katy has 3 with a lot of singles.
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Katy emerged when Itunes was a force, Rih only released four albums after the ITunes became huge and still Cher has over 30 albums why isn't she above them both?
The amount of albums released has nothing to do with it
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Exact same size.
Two masive global smashes + 1,600 flops afterward.
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Roar and Dark Horse are bigger than any Unapologetic singles.
Prism will outsell Unap if it hasnt already.
Prismatic tour will outgross rih's recent tour.
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