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Originally posted by Shimenawa
Beyoncé doesn't even make R&B music
She's a black pop singer
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Examples please.
Now Beyonce's r*b might not have much depth and artistry but it's still r&b.
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Originally posted by swissman
I think a point could be made that Beyonce brought back glamour to it though. When most R&B artists were presenting a very hood and/or real vibe ala Brandy or Mary J., Beyonce (solo) came with a very slick and polished glamour, performing for example, DIL always in a floor length gown, etc. But perhaps others were doing that at the same time too. I'm not sure. I know Beyonce's history way better than other's.
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There were others doing it but I think what helped Beyonce is that she came from a girl group that was r&b and evolved with more pop undertones and was accepted mainstream. Mary J wasn't always in hoodies and gangsta attire towards the late 90s that evolved but let's face it. Beyonce is gorgeous so the look is easier to associate despite some less than gorgeous artist rocking that attire. mary j is...I love ha. i can't do ha like that
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Originally posted by FreeXone
Janet is the blueprint for black girls of pop and all will deal.
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For the most part. Especially entertainment wise.
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Originally posted by swissman
She's also a blueprint for girls in pop who are white though. Britney being perhaps the best example. And she is certainly not the blueprint for all black girls in pop though. For example, Rihanna shows very little Janet-isms.
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Yep. Britney did it better than others like Xtina, Jessica and others.
Yeah Rihanna shows more Madonna esque to me
I think Madonna, MJ are the standard for entertainers in the pop world
I think Prince and Janet are the standard for entertainers in the r&b world
I think Mariah WAS the standard for hip POP.
I think Whitney & Celine were the standards for the balladeers
I think Tina turner is the standard for pop/rock/ac artists.
At one point when Britney cared about her career she was the standard for pop but now it's Rihanna.
At one point when Alicia and Usher cared about their careers they were standards for r&b but now Beyonce is the standard for R&B...I could say Justin but I mean 7 year break???
Pink is the standard for pop/punk/ac ish stuff.
THIS IS THE TYPE OF STUFF I like to see as thread conversations...healthy debate and agreeing to disagree and moving forward.
Not all of these bait threads for shock value.
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Originally posted by The411
Mary Blige is the blueprint for modern day R&B.
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She certainly paved the way and has shown the most longevity as she was for the 90s, 00s and I see some it still in the 10s but I think Beyonce has taken more of it in 10s.
But Mary Did influence Beyonce, faith, dem 90s girls, ashanti, keyshia cole, jasmine sullivan, etc.