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Poll: Is Lady Gaga above Rihanna in overall career success?
View Poll Results: Is Lady Gaga above Rihanna in overall career success?
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No
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Yes
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Blue Momo!
The thing is that Rih is only getting bigger while Gaga isn't. The former will add more numbers to that list than Gaga with their next eras.
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Rihanna declined greatly with TTT+U when compared to Loud. Yet no one notes that decline.
Rihanna has had several flops from each of her albums yet when Gaga has 1 from BTW and 1 from ARTPOP, all hell breaks loose and Gaga is suddenly "FadGa"
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Member Since: 4/29/2012
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Originally posted by Quietly Trek
A decline isn't relevant to the question. Lady Gaga is still more successful, and in a shorter period, than Rihanna when you factor in their total tour gross, single sales, album sales, impact, etc.
This could change in a few years or it could continue to stay the same. That has yet to be decided.
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Rihanna wins all of those expect for touring, I mean she's even winning on social media.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by Blade
Rihanna declined greatly with TTT+U when compared to Loud.
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and +RR compared to GGGB
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Originally posted by Blade
Rihanna declined greatly with TTT+U when compared to Loud. Yet no one notes that decline.
Rihanna has had several flops from each of her albums yet when Gaga has 1 from BTW and 1 from 1 from ARTPOP, all hell breaks loose and Gaga is suddenly "FadGa"
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Not really.
TTT spawned, the biggest hit of her career plus several other platinum singles.
And Una spawned diamonds and stay, 2 more of the biggest singles of her career.
It just sold a bit more albums (mainly due to its slayage in the UK tbh)
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Rihanna will eclipse Gaga in around 2-3 years if both women remain at the stages they are, career-wise.
Gaga at this point has seen higher highs than Rihanna*, despite Rihanna having consistent relevancy for longer.
It all generally comes down to numbers and both have had success in different areas, so it is hard to compare the two.
Edit: *Gaga has also seen lower lows than Rih. Honestly, I think Rihanna needs a couple more years.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Brunette Ambition
27 M albums in 6 years > 30 M albums in 9 years
Same with singles and the fact that Gaga has 13 singles and Rihanna 30?
And don't act as if Rihanna can't flop with her next album/albums and Gaga can't recover.
Just the fact that Gagas low = The others' highs.
Tbh it's stupid to compare them when one is longer in the business than the other.
It would be even more embarrassing for her if she wasn't leading but every healthy brain can tell that Gagas is more successful. That ''But Gaga's declining''-argument is stupid and doesn't answer the question.
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First of all, last I checked the accurate estimate of Gaga's sales was 24 million- not 27 million so let's get that straight. The fact of the matter is that Gaga- after five years in the business reached new lows, which Rihanna's been consistently successful and only reached new highs with Unapologetic after 9 years in the business. That says everything. Last year when Rihanna released Unapologetic in November, it was platinum by May 2013. Tell me again where ARTPOP is? Rihanna has sold more, won more Grammy's, has better streaming, is more relevant in today's world, and she just had her most successful tour. IDK how all of this screams to you tha Gaga's more successful.
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Originally posted by MikeFenty
Rihanna wins all of those expect for touring, I mean she's even winning on social media.
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You missed a vital part of his post. He said Gaga achieved more than Rihanna in a shorter period, and that is true.
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Originally posted by MikeFenty
Rihanna wins all of those expect for touring, I mean she's even winning on social media.
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I don't think you understand what I mean.
Lady Gaga in her first five years has sold more than what Rihanna did in her first five years. That is why Lady Gaga is more successful at this point.
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No, of course not. Gaga's peak might have been bigger but it was short-lived whereas Rihanna only keeps getting bigger. Rihanna beats her in album sales, single sales, awards, streaming, radio support, and pretty much everything besides touring, and the artRAVE might not even outgross the DWT.
Plus, ARTPOP has yet to sell what Unapologetic sold in 7 weeks.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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To compare a 6 year career to a 9 year career alone is stupid but then to argue with the actual numbers
(eg albums: 27 vs: 30) and saying the latter, Rihanna, is more successful is even more stupid cause it‘s only logical that the one longer in the business sold more.
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27 M : 4 albums = 6,75 per album
30 M : 7 albums = 4,29 per album
I don‘t know their single sales but in touring Gaga also wins. Also in awards, acclaim and iconic moments.
Gaga is more successful. And it does not matter if the one is declining or the other is still rising. This thread is not about the future about their careers but their overall careers to this date and Gaga wins. End.
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Member Since: 6/15/2010
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Originally posted by Thor
Gaga: 3 1/2 Albums - 27 Million Sold WW
Rihanna: 7 Albums - 30 Million Sold WW
Gaga: 150 Million Records Sold WW (6 yrs career)
Rihanna: 180 Million Records Sold WW (9 Yrs career)
Gaga: $410 Million Career Touring Gross (Soon to be $500 Million+)
Rihanna: Around $232 - 250 Million Career Touring Gross)
Gaga: 5 Grammys
Rihanna: 7 Grammys
Both CFDA Fashion Icon Award Recipient
Gaga has almost matched Rihanna in everything & has surpassed her in other things, in a shorter career.
And there's a clear winner.......And its GAGA!
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Uhh....HOW exactly does it show Gaga is the winner when Rihanna is higher in most of these categories? (despite the fictional/misleading #s)
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Member Since: 4/30/2012
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Originally posted by Quietly Trek
A decline isn't relevant to the question. Lady Gaga is still more successful, and in a shorter period, than Rihanna when you factor in their total tour gross, single sales, album sales, impact, etc.
This could change in a few years or it could continue to stay the same. That has yet to be decided.
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I would argue that being able to maintain success is just as important as any of those other factors. Being on top for a year or two and then having such a dramatic career free fall is the furthest thing from an indicator of success.
Poor Gaga. She's essentially a glorified, white Ciara.
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Originally posted by Homebrand
Not really.
TTT spawned, the biggest hit of her career plus several other platinum singles.
And Una spawned diamonds and stay, 2 more of the biggest singles of her career.
It just sold a bit more albums (mainly due to its slayage in the UK tbh)
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LOUD: 6.5M
TTT: 3M
U: 3M
"A bit more albums" is an understatement. She sold 3.5M more albums. Just like Gaga with ARTPOP + BTW
6M --> 2.5M is a 3.5M decrease.
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Originally posted by Blade
Rihanna declined greatly with TTT+U when compared to Loud. Yet no one notes that decline.
Rihanna has had several flops from each of her albums yet when Gaga has 1 from BTW and 1 from ARTPOP, all hell breaks loose and Gaga is suddenly "FadGa"
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Because Rihanna has proven she can always bounce back which Gaga has yet to do.
WFL was bigger than LOUD single
DWT was bigger than LOUD tour
UA had a higher first week and higher overall album sales than TTT
Lady Gaga has yet to have a single, tour or album bigger from The Fame/TFM and there been 2 tours.. 2 albums and multiple singles ever since.
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Originally posted by RomanNavy
Her peak was higher but overal she can't beat Rihanna's 9 year consistency.
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kinda true, I don't give Rih enough credit for being 10 years in the game and still effortlessly cranking out #1's
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by TheOnlyOne
Absolutely not. Everything about Gaga is a gimmick. She's a fad. The musical version of a snuggie.
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You did not need to go in that hard, sis.
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Originally posted by Work Bitch
No, of course not. Gaga's peak might have been bigger but it was short-lived whereas Rihanna only keeps getting bigger. Rihanna beats her in album sales, single sales, awards, streaming, radio support, and pretty much everything besides touring, and the artRAVE might not even outgross the DWT.
Plus, ARTPOP has yet to sell what Unapologetic sold in 7 weeks.
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That last statement is not true.
Unapologetic didn't sell 2.5M in 7 weeks
And Rihanna does not keep getting bigger and bigger. Her album sales and single sales have declined since LOUD. Only her tour gross got bigger.
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Originally posted by Merryweather
First of all, last I checked the accurate estimate of Gaga's sales was 24 million- not 27 million so let's get that straight. The fact of the matter is that Gaga- after five years in the business reached new lows, which Rihanna's been consistently successful and only reached new highs with Unapologetic after 9 years in the business. That says everything. Last year when Rihanna released Unapologetic in November, it was platinum by May 2013. Tell me again where ARTPOP is? Rihanna has sold more, won more Grammy's, has better streaming, is more relevant in today's world, and she just had her most successful tour. IDK how all of this screams to you tha Gaga's more successful.
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what forbes has to say about that?
but her ''most successful tour'' still grossed 50kk less than btwbt with the same amount of dates?
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Originally posted by MikeFenty
Because Rihanna has proven she can always bounce back which Gaga has yet to do.
WFL was bigger than LOUD single
DWT was bigger than LOUD tour
UA had a higher first week and higher overall album sales than TTT
Lady Gaga has yet to have a single, tour or album bigger from The Fame/TFM and there been 2 tours.. 2 albums and multiple singles ever since.
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Because this is Gaga's first underperforming era.
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