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Discussion: Bigger Hits: Britney vs Beyoncé vs Xtina vs Avril vs Pink
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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First of all, Rolland, I LOVE your avatar.
Second of all... I think P!nk wins because some of the songs listed for Christina and Britney aren't really that big of hits, and you left out some of P!nk's biggest hits. "Don't Let Me Get Me" was way bigger than "Family Portrait". "Who Knew", "Sober", and "Please Don't Leave Me" were all big hits too. And how can you forget "Blow Me (One Last Kiss)"? It's one of her biggest hits, it peaked at #5. And Avril has some memorable hits and some of the best ones out of all these artists, but she doesn't have enough that are bigger than the others, so... I'd say...
P!nk > Beyoncé > Christina > Avril > Britney.
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Member Since: 8/22/2010
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Originally posted by DejaVu
I didn't compare her to anyone. I said she's been influenced by some of Bey's hits. And in the other thread i said that Katy herself hasn't influenced pop culture. Two completely different things but neither of them contradict themselves, so again, nice try. But you really need to work on your reading comprehension, and I know this isn't the first time I've told you that. I sincerely hope you take my advice this time.
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They don't contradict. Why in the world with someone who's word apparently means a lot now suddenly be overshadowed by someone else with extremely low cultural relevance in 20 years? If you can't understand that there's nothing else to say lol
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by Pedro
I am dying at how Beyoncé supporters need to come up with insults towards Britney or her fans to TRY to make their point acceptable... Sorry babes that will make you win nothing but warning points, enjoy 'em and keep living in that fantasy world.
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That's all they know how to do!
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Member Since: 6/24/2012
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Originally posted by atrlster
DIL only has a higher peak because of Streaming. In terms of overall points, Say Something is still way bigger so far
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Let's not act like SS wasn't benefited by streaming as well.
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Member Since: 6/5/2011
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Member Since: 6/24/2012
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Originally posted by Rolland
Say Something was released in November 4th, and it didn't leave Billboard's/iTunes top 10 since then, until this past Tuesday. Those are 18 weeks and 3,137,000 singles sold, the only reason it peaked at #4 as I stated before is because radio refused to put it on power rotation, instead they chose to support songs like DIL and Team that struggle to stay inside the top 10 of HDS. Streaming comes from different platforms not just Youtube. And SS was #1 on OnDemand and Spotify, educate yourself to avoid showing ignorance. How much has sold DIL so far, 1.5 million? Also at multi-format smash.
I am sorry but only in your deluded mind DIL is a bigger hit than SS.
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Why would I need to educate myself when I haven't said SS wasn't big streaming wise? Go take some air. It IS a multi-format smash on radio, didn't DrIL go #1 on two formats and it's being played in a few other formats? Don't come up with that cheap excuse radios didn't want to put SS on power rotation. DrIL wasn't supposed to be a pop single and it ended up being one. I didn't come up with just a YouTube receipt, it is doing great on Spotify as well. I am not trying to downgrade SS success, it is a lovely song and it deserved the top spot, but if you are going to base just on Billboard like that Xtina fan I quoted, DrIL would be bigger.
DrIL will end up being bigger than SS.
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Member Since: 9/3/2010
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Originally posted by abrahamjmr
Why would I need to educate myself when I haven't said SS wasn't big streaming wise? Go take some air. It IS a multi-format smash on radio, didn't DrIL go #1 on two formats and it's being played in a few other formats? Don't come up with that cheap excuse radios didn't want to put SS on power rotation. DrIL wasn't supposed to be a pop single and it ended up being one. I didn't come up with just a YouTube receipt, it is doing great on Spotify as well. I am not trying to downgrade SS success, it is a lovely song and it deserved the top spot, but if you are going to base just on Billboard like that Xtina fan I quoted, DrIL would be bigger.
DrIL will end up being bigger than SS.
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If that's your definition of a multi-format radio smash then so is SS. It's not an excuse, it's a fact since it was #1 in HDS multiple weeks something DIL will never achieve and it was #1 also in streaming charts. Songs like Team and DIL having higher airplay despite being weaker selling wise proves it.
13. Beyoncé - Drunk in Love (feat. Jay Z)
6. BEYONCÉ – Drunk In Love f/Jay Z: 134.403 (+1.373)
These stats on its 12th week and you still think it's gonna end bigger than SS? Whatever makes you sleep at night I guess. It can't even crack the top 10. Bigger only because it had (luckily) a higher peak? What a clever logic. I guess we can safely say that a lot of irrelevant songs that hit #1 for a week are bigger than classics who sold massively, spent multiple weeks inside the top 10, are still selling but weren't lucky enough to hit #1. Like I said very clever logic.
We will see on Billboard's year end charts which one ends up being bigger.
As of now you can stay being deluded.
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Member Since: 6/24/2012
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Originally posted by Rolland
If that's your definition of a multi-format radio smash then so is SS. It's not an excuse, it's a fact since it was #1 in HDS multiple weeks something DIL will never achieve and it was #1 also in streaming charts. Songs like Team and DIL having higher airplay despite being weaker selling wise proves it.
13. Beyoncé - Drunk in Love (feat. Jay Z)
6. BEYONCÉ – Drunk In Love f/Jay Z: 134.403 (+1.373)
These stats on its 12th week and you still think it's gonna end bigger than SS? Whatever makes you sleep at night I guess. It can't even crack the top 10. Bigger only because it had (luckily) a higher peak? What a clever logic. I guess we can safely say that a lot of irrelevant songs that hit #1 for a week are bigger than classics who sold massively, spent multiple weeks inside the top 10, are still selling but weren't lucky enough to hit #1. Like I said very clever logic.
We will see on Billboard's year end charts which one ends up being bigger.
As of now you can stay being deluded.
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You are not still paying enough attention to what I was trying to say when I quoted that user. DrIL is stable in the Hot 100 top 10 despite not being a big digital seller. You're acting like being #13 on iTunes isn't a good thing. If it was #54 or out of top 20 and Beyoncé was getting those good radio updates, I would agree with you, but DrIL is doing well or decent in several departments. If you don't want to accept it, that is your problem, not mine.
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Member Since: 9/11/2010
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I think some of y'all aren't taking into account recurrent airplay and longevity. Pink has probably the best recurrent play out of any of these girls. That gives her an edge over the other girls. Beyonce and Britney have had more hits that had bigger impact when they were out. However some of them didn't really last. I would say Beyonce, Britney and Pink are probably about equal. It's all splitting hairs, tbh. Xtina and Avril are definitely at the bottom.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Rolland
If that's your definition of a multi-format radio smash then so is SS. It's not an excuse, it's a fact since it was #1 in HDS multiple weeks something DIL will never achieve and it was #1 also in streaming charts. Songs like Team and DIL having higher airplay despite being weaker selling wise proves it.
13. Beyoncé - Drunk in Love (feat. Jay Z)
6. BEYONCÉ – Drunk In Love f/Jay Z: 134.403 (+1.373)
These stats on its 12th week and you still think it's gonna end bigger than SS? Whatever makes you sleep at night I guess. It can't even crack the top 10. Bigger only because it had (luckily) a higher peak? What a clever logic. I guess we can safely say that a lot of irrelevant songs that hit #1 for a week are bigger than classics who sold massively, spent multiple weeks inside the top 10, are still selling but weren't lucky enough to hit #1. Like I said very clever logic.
We will see on Billboard's year end charts which one ends up being bigger.
As of now you can stay being deluded.
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Educate HA!
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Member Since: 1/31/2012
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Definitely Beyoncé.
Bey > Brit > Xtina > Avril > P!nk
Brit has Oops, Toxic & BOMT.
Bey has CIL, Single Ladies, Irreplaceable, Halo, Listen & Drunk in Love
X has Genie & Beautiful
Avril has Sk8r Boi, Complicated & GF
P!nk has JGMAR... that's about it.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Britney and Christina slaying
The others...
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Who has the biggest singles doesn't matter when you can still sell millions of albums.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King
Definitely Beyoncé.
Bey > Brit > Xtina > Avril > P!nk
Brit has Oops, Toxic & BOMT.
Bey has CIL, Single Ladies, Irreplaceable, Halo, Listen & Drunk in Love
X has Genie & Beautiful
Avril has Sk8r Boi, Complicated & GF
P!nk has JGMAR... that's about it.
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You left out Womanizer, Piece Of Me, Till the World Ends, etc, but listed Listen and Drunk In Love?
Anyway, get it Brit, Bey, and Xtina.
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Member Since: 1/31/2012
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Originally posted by dperkins
I think some of y'all aren't taking into account recurrent airplay and longevity. Pink has probably the best recurrent play out of any of these girls. That gives her an edge over the other girls. Beyonce and Britney have had more hits that had bigger impact when they were out. However some of them didn't really last. I would say Beyonce, Britney and Pink are probably about equal. It's all splitting hairs, tbh. Xtina and Avril are definitely at the bottom.
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P!nk really doesn't... Bey has the best recurrent airplay due to her multi-format classics.
Pop Classics: CIL, Irreplaceable, SL, & Halo
Urban Classics: CIL, SL, Diva, Ego, Love on Top, Party, GMB, & DrIL
Urban AC Classics: CIL, SL, Irreplaceable, LOT, MMI, DIL2 & Halo
AC Classics: CIL, Halo, SL & Irreplaceable
All the other artists have 1/2 of that POWER.
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Member Since: 1/31/2012
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Originally posted by Work Bitch
You left out Womanizer, Piece Of Me, Till the World Ends, etc, but listed Listen and Drunk In Love?
Anyway, get it Brit, Bey, and Xtina.
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Piece of Me, HELL NO.
TTWE isn't gonna last too long.
Womanizer didn't last long at all.
Listen is a vocal classic.
Drunk in Love will be memorable simply for "Serfboardt" & "DRUUUUUUUUNK IN LOOOOOOOOOVE"
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Member Since: 1/18/2012
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Pink>Beyonce>Christina>Avril>Britney. Recurrent airplay agrees
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Member Since: 1/31/2012
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Originally posted by Rolland
If that's your definition of a multi-format radio smash then so is SS. It's not an excuse, it's a fact since it was #1 in HDS multiple weeks something DIL will never achieve and it was #1 also in streaming charts. Songs like Team and DIL having higher airplay despite being weaker selling wise proves it.
13. Beyoncé - Drunk in Love (feat. Jay Z)
6. BEYONCÉ – Drunk In Love f/Jay Z: 134.403 (+1.373)
These stats on its 12th week and you still think it's gonna end bigger than SS? Whatever makes you sleep at night I guess. It can't even crack the top 10. Bigger only because it had (luckily) a higher peak? What a clever logic. I guess we can safely say that a lot of irrelevant songs that hit #1 for a week are bigger than classics who sold massively, spent multiple weeks inside the top 10, are still selling but weren't lucky enough to hit #1. Like I said very clever logic.
We will see on Billboard's year end charts which one ends up being bigger.
As of now you can stay being deluded.
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Say Something is a bigger hit than Drunk in Love. It's not gonna be as memorable though
Serfboardt
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King
Say Something is a bigger hit than Drunk in Love. It's not gonna be as memorable though
Serfboardt
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DIL memorable?
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Member Since: 4/16/2008
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Originally posted by D.M.F
Xtina's Say Something will outsell Pink's Just Give A Reason with ease, and Drunk In Love, and XO sales combined won't match the song where X's the lead artist on it. Facts are facts, and X's in the best position with sales.
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I cant at X being lead act on Say something while she only provides background vocals.
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