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Chart Listings: Billboard Hot 100 Singles (November 27-December 4, 2013)
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Originally posted by rbautz
Do we know whether these 6 m video streams are from the US
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Well video has 26,482,050 views in 2 days. And looking at how much US views where for other Miley videos compared to overall WW number then 6m till now are very conservative number and there is like 99% that actual US views for video are already more than that. And by this point 10+M WB parody US streams are almost given for full week (unless video is blocked/removed from Youtube or Billboard decides to make another rule change).
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Originally posted by Rindain
It will get people to read the article, but Billboard would probably lose some credibility amongst record labels.
I agree fans meltdowns will of course have no effect.
What I meant to say is that pressure from record labels and others in the music industry would probably get them to change the formula.
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Well, it's record labels themselves who brag so much about the Vevo records of their artists so all they can is shut up.
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Originally posted by QueenBeé
Well, it's record labels themselves who brag so much about the Vevo records of their artists so all they can is shut up.
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Well that's true. After all statement '20 million Vevo video views this week' sounds more impressive than '200,000 copies sold this week'.
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I was trying to side with Streaming, but for Billboard to now include Streaming on EVERY genre chart is just too much (along w/ digital downloads).
Now literally, if Katy Perry decided "Unconditionally" was a Christian song, it would OBVIOUSLY go #1 being bigger than any Christian song - and assumable for many, many weeks as it will be bigger in streaming (and downloads) than any other sole Christian song for a LONG TIME.
The problem there is that songs that aren't popular among ACTUAL Christian listeners will always be #1 and for long periods of time, and this will basically happen on every single genre chart with popular music making them inaccurate.
Keeping genre charts based off Airplay under those formats was the smartest thing, because of the fact that actually shows what those genre listeners are listening to. It makes no sense songs classified under a genre can now basically go #1 for weeks upon weeks despite not being popular with most listeners of the genre.
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Originally posted by Rindain
What I meant to say is that pressure from record labels and others in the music industry would probably get them to change the formula.
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My point about "This is not the first time that huge songs are blocked by unforseeable circumstances" this the answer for this. Labels DO CARE about chart position. It looks good on PR statements, especially in a industry that hype plays a major role in selling tactics. But labels would not spend resources to complain about a song that this going to get a #1 anyway.
In fact, for the first time ever, Billboard has moved ahead of time. They got onto the airplay components pretty late, then the digital component only in 2005. In the past one year, inclusion of streaming, first from passive, then active streaming, tells us that Billboard, as the industry leader in charts and publications, is more willing to adapt to the climate of the industry. AND this movement shows that streaming is going to be the future of the industry, at least in the next 4 or 5 years. THIS is also an acknowledgement of where the labels are heading towards. They would not complain because a song get more streamings and cut their title to the #1, but learn from it i.e. thinking how how to sell music outside of the box, because traditional way of marketing music is not going to work anymore (not always, a la Adele's 21, but you get the point)
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Originally posted by Carrie-is-no-1
My point about "This is not the first time that huge songs are blocked by unforseeable circumstances" this the answer for this. Labels DO CARE about chart position. It looks good on PR statements, especially in a industry that hype plays a major role in selling tactics. But labels would not spend resources to complain about a song that this going to get a #1 anyway.
In fact, for the first time ever, Billboard has moved ahead of time. They got onto the airplay components pretty late, then the digital component only in 2005. In the past one year, inclusion of streaming, first from passive, then active streaming, tells us that Billboard, as the industry leader in charts and publications, is more willing to adapt to the climate of the industry. AND this movement shows that streaming is going to be the future of the industry, at least in the next 4 or 5 years. THIS is also an acknowledgement of where the labels are heading towards. They would not complain because a song get more streamings and cut their title to the #1, but learn from it i.e. thinking how how to sell music outside of the box, because traditional way of marketing music is not going to work anymore (not always, a la Adele's 21, but you get the point)
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They got onto Digital Sales in 2003 when the #1 track was only selling 1,200 copies in a week. They probably would've also did Airplay earlier, but Nielsen was really the only good technology to component airplay into a chart.
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Originally posted by iHypeMusic
They got onto Digital Sales in 2003 when the #1 track was only selling 1,200 copies in a week. They probably would've also did Airplay earlier, but Nielsen was really the only good technology to component airplay into a chart.
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I was talking about the hot 100, not the digital chart. Sorry, because the whole discussion was about the #1 song on the Hot 100, my previous post was not that clear.
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Billboard HOT 100
TWPos LWPos PeakPos WeeksOn Artist - Title
01 01 01 21 Lorde - Royals
02 02 02 04 Eminem Featuring Rihanna - The Monster
03 03 01 14 Miley Cyrus - Wrecking Ball
04 06 04 23 OneRepublic - Counting Stars
05 04 04 22 Avicii - Wake Me Up!
06 07 06 31 Imagine Dragons - Demons
07 05 01 16 Katy Perry - Roar
08 10 08 07 Pitbull Featuring Ke$ha - Timber
09 08 04 16 Drake Featuring Majid Jordan - Hold On, We're Going Home
10 11 10 17 Passenger - Let Her Go
11 NE 11 01 One Direction - Diana
12 NE 12 01 One Direction - Midnight Memories
13 13 06 04 One Direction - Story Of My Life
14 09 04 15 Lady Gaga - Applause
15 12 11 10 Mike WiLL Made-It Featuring Miley Cyrus, Wiz Khalifa & Juicy J - 23
16 16 16 05 Katy Perry - Unconditionally
17 14 04 20 Jay Z Featuring Justin Timberlake - Holy Grail
18 38 16 03 A Great Big World & Christina Aguilera - Say Something
19 17 17 24 The Neighbourhood - Sweater Weather
20 18 13 05 Lady Gaga Featuring R. Kelly - Do What U Want
21 15 01 32 Robin Thicke Featuring T.I. + Pharrell - Blurred Lines
22 22 22 10 Zedd Featuring Hayley Williams - Stay The Night
23 31 23 10 Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring ScHoolboy Q & Hollis - White Walls
24 20 03 65 Imagine Dragons - Radioactive
25 39 25 05 Rihanna - What Now
26 19 19 08 YG Featuring Jeezy & Rich Homie Quan - My Hitta
27 24 23 18 Chris Brown Featuring Nicki Minaj - Love More
28 27 27 24 Sara Bareilles - Brave
29 28 28 16 Selena Gomez - Slow Down
30 33 26 11 Keith Urban And Miranda Lambert - We Were Us
31 21 08 30 Capital Cities - Safe And Sound
32 23 17 64 AWOLNATION - Sail
33 30 30 08 Jason Derulo - Marry Me
34 37 34 06 Florida Georgia Line - Stay
35 26 06 20 Lana Del Rey & Cedric Gervais - Summertime Sadness
36 48 36 12 Ellie Goulding - Burn
37 29 24 20 Paramore - Still Into You
38 41 37 10 Justin Timberlake - TKO
39 36 28 17 Blake Shelton - Mine Would Be You
40 35 15 15 Luke Bryan - That's My Kind Of Night
41 46 41 08 Sevyn Streeter Featuring Chris Brown - It Won't Stop
42 47 17 10 Katy Perry Featuring Juicy J - Dark Horse
43 RE 10 32 Enya - Only Time
44 52 44 13 Joe Nichols - Sunny And 75
45 42 29 18 Sage The Gemini Featuring IamSu! - Gas Pedal
46 45 20 09 Drake Featuring 2 Chainz & Big Sean - All Me
47 44 02 41 Justin Timberlake - Mirrors
48 53 48 15 Bastille - Pompeii
49 34 02 25 Miley Cyrus - We Can't Stop
50 57 50 10 Parmalee - Carolina
51 55 51 12 Eli Young Band - Drunk Last Night
52 61 52 08 David Nail - Whatever She's Got
53 51 06 21 Taylor Swift - Red
54 NE 54 01 Justin Bieber Featuring R. Kelly - PYD
55 43 03 13 Eminem - Berzerk
56 60 37 12 Cassadee Pope - Wasting All These Tears
57 65 39 20 Jay Z - Tom Ford
58 56 48 12 August Alsina Featuring Trinidad James - I Luv This Sh*t
59 32 07 06 Eminem - Rap God
60 49 22 13 Bruno Mars - Gorilla
61 84 61 03 Luke Bryan - Drink A Beer
62 78 62 06 Cole Swindell - Chillin' It
63 69 63 06 The Band Perry - Don't Let Me Be Lonely
64 54 42 18 Tim McGraw - Southern Girl
65 74 65 06 Zac Brown Band - Sweet Annie
66 63 38 18 Big Sean Featuring Lil Wayne & Jhene Aiko - Beware
67 68 67 03 Kid Ink Featuring Chris Brown - Show Me
68 66 66 07 John Legend - All Of Me
69 67 55 11 Future - Honest
70 62 52 19 Sage The Gemini - Red Nose
71 82 71 06 Eric Paslay - Friday Night
72 83 72 10 Martin Garrix - Animals
73 NE 73 01 Kanye West - Bound 2
74 85 69 09 Lorde - Team
75 81 75 06 Darius Rucker - Radio
76 64 45 19 Chris Young - Aw Naw
77 75 50 19 Rich Homie Quan - Type Of Way
78 76 74 13 Juicy J Featuring Wale & Trey Songz - Bounce It
79 80 64 24 B.o.B Featuring 2 Chainz - HeadBand
80 87 80 03 Lady Antebellum - Compass
81 59 16 07 Eminem - Survival
82 70 06 12 Ylvis - The Fox
83 100 70 03 Daughtry - Waiting For Superman
84 73 61 14 Zendaya - Replay
85 NE 85 01 John Newman - Love Me Again
86 77 51 05 Eric Church - The Outsiders
87 NE 87 01 One Direction - Strong
88 79 12 10 Britney Spears - Work B**ch!
89 40 40 02 Matthew Schuler - Hallelujah
90 94 90 03 Hunter Hayes Featuring Jason Mraz - Everybody's Got Somebody But Me
91 93 91 02 American Authors - Best Day Of My Life
92 89 51 05 Drake - The Language
93 91 83 07 Jake Owen - Days Of Gold
94 90 84 05 Ariana Grande Featuring Big Sean - Right There
95 NE 95 01 T-Pain Featuring B.o.B - Up Down (Do This All Day)
96 NE 96 01 Ariana Grande - Last Christmas
97 88 82 05 Travie McCoy Featuring Jason Mraz - Rough Water
98 86 71 08 Lorde - Tennis Court
99 92 92 05 ScHoolboy Q Featuring Kendrick Lamar - Collard Greens
100 99 99 02 Jon Pardi - Up All Night
Position has increased relative to last week
Hot shot debut
New
Re-Entry
Dropped Out:
-- 25 25 22 Bon Jovi - Livin' On A Prayer
-- 50 50 01 Justin Bieber - All Bad
-- 58 32 20 Taylor Swift Featuring Ed Sheeran - Everything Has Changed
-- 71 08 02 Lady Gaga - Dope
-- 72 26 20 Jason Aldean - Night Train
-- 95 78 12 Prince Royce - Darte Un Beso
-- 96 65 07 Drake Featuring Jay Z - Pound Cake / Paris Morton Music 2
-- 97 02 17 One Direction - Best Song Ever
-- 98 79 07 Romeo Santos - Propuesta Indecente
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14 09 04 15 Lady Gaga - Applause
20 18 13 05 Lady Gaga Featuring R. Kelly - Do What U Want
They should go up next week with the falling One Directions songs!
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OP Updated. Thanks, Ulrihs
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74 85 69 09 Lorde - Team
+11 this week
Will be a bigger jump next week
Hopefully top 50?
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Originally posted by Rindain
Thanks!
If Wrecking Ball does get #1 next week because of the viral video there will be so many meltdowns.
I'd bet Billboard would get a huge amount of criticism not only from Em/Rihanna fans, but also from Interscope. There'll be lots of pressure for them to change that rule.
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They are not going to change the rule because of some fans having meltdowns.
If they didn't change the rule when 30 seconds parodies of Harlem Shake blocked Thrift Shop from #1 for 5 weeks what makes you think that they will change it now.
Also if the label had some problem with that they would have removed the video but it's still there. Not to mention that if the video is removed for some reason, the views that the video has so far will still count for Billboard according to Bill Verde.
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did I see someone sing SAIKI didn't deserve its 2 weeks???
let me remind you all that it has over 6M downloads while WFL just passed 5M a couple months ago
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Originally posted by umichgrad07
OP Updated. Thanks, Ulrihs
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NP.
Although there was one mistake in first version I posted. Last week there was mistake on Billboard site from where i automatically take latest chart and calculate dropouts. 'August Alsina Featuring Trinidad James' was misspelled, so he didn't actually dropped out.
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Originally posted by iHypeMusic
I was trying to side with Streaming, but for Billboard to now include Streaming on EVERY genre chart is just too much (along w/ digital downloads).
Now literally, if Katy Perry decided "Unconditionally" was a Christian song, it would OBVIOUSLY go #1 being bigger than any Christian song - and assumable for many, many weeks as it will be bigger in streaming (and downloads) than any other sole Christian song for a LONG TIME.
The problem there is that songs that aren't popular among ACTUAL Christian listeners will always be #1 and for long periods of time, and this will basically happen on every single genre chart with popular music making them inaccurate.
Keeping genre charts based off Airplay under those formats was the smartest thing, because of the fact that actually shows what those genre listeners are listening to. It makes no sense songs classified under a genre can now basically go #1 for weeks upon weeks despite not being popular with most listeners of the genre.
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!!! They're completely inaccurate now. I remember when Gangnam Style went #1 on Rap Songs
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Originally posted by Ulrihs
NP.
Although there was one mistake in first version I posted. Last week there was mistake on Billboard site from where i automatically take latest chart and calculate dropouts. 'August Alsina Featuring Trinidad James' was misspelled, so he didn't actually dropped out.
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Ok no prob. I updated
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That Wrecking Ball vid has 28M views in 2 days
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42 47 17 10 Katy Perry Featuring Juicy J - Dark Horse
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Not Dark Horse increasing
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It Won't Stop is #41! Pls go Top 40
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