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Discussion: Thoughts on Food Stamps
Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Razr
No telling people what they can and cannot buy is not socialist, but your views are. You are implying in your argument that whether or not somebody is on food stamps they deserve equivalent life styles as everybody else. You imply they deserve everything everybody else has.
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We're talking about letting people have the discretion to buy what they would like to eat and or feed their families with. Why do you want to butt into that so badly?
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Member Since: 6/15/2012
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Originally posted by RatedG²
SOCIALIST?
TELLING PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT BUY IS SOCIALIST I CANT
Don't try me, just because I am a Biology major doesn't mean I don't know about Government, that was one of my choicese I could have minored in
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Razr was clearly referring to the principle of socialism that everyone gets treated the same, no matter how hard they work. Bringing that to Razr's point, she was saying people on food stamps (who have not worked for the food that is put into their baskets) get the same food as herself, even though she worked for it.
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by Razr
No telling people what they can and cannot buy is not socialist, but your views are. You are implying in your argument that whether or not somebody is on food stamps they deserve equivalent life styles as everybody else. You imply they deserve everything everybody else has. Somebody who has gone to school longer, worked harder, surely deserves more than somebody who has done nothing, yet is given everything by their government. Financial success goes to those who succeed and also work hard. It should not be equal for everybody.
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So are you saying poor people do nothing? They don't even try? Ignorance, pure ignorance. Go see the world, its not rainbows and butterflies.
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by Razr
No telling people what they can and cannot buy is not socialist, but your views are. You are implying in your argument that whether or not somebody is on food stamps they deserve equivalent life styles as everybody else. You imply they deserve everything everybody else has. Somebody who has gone to school longer, worked harder, surely deserves more than somebody who has done nothing, yet is given everything by their government. Financial success goes to those who succeed and also work hard. It should not be equal for everybody.
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Indeed. Some people actually work real hard for the things they want while others simply don't.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Razr
No telling people what they can and cannot buy is not socialist, but your views are. You are implying in your argument that whether or not somebody is on food stamps they deserve equivalent life styles as everybody else. You imply they deserve everything everybody else has. Somebody who has gone to school longer, worked harder, surely deserves more than somebody who has done nothing, yet is given everything by their government. Financial success goes to those who succeed and also work hard. It should not be equal for everybody.
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No I'm not.
Yes, you dictating what people can buy with their money is socialist. (and before I get hammered for that, it is their money once the goverment gives them the EBT card).
I am implying that they do deserve equivalent lifestyles that means a good living, no they don't have to be all rich but they need something to call their home at the end of the day. They don't deserve everything everyone else has unless it's a necessity to life (like food).
And you saying it shouldn't be equal, I can't. It's NOT equal but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be. It should be but yes if you work harder I agree you deserve more. Which is why I think people on food stamps deserve more, they all work their asses off just so they can live another day.
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Originally posted by Ties
Fresh fruits, vegetables, and meats aren't cheap. They are quite costly. I'm sure that's nothing you have to worry about, though. You probably wake up to a fridge full of food every day.
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A family pack of Frito Lay chips costs about $5 at the grocery store I work at.
A family pack of chicken breasts costs about $5 as well.
It's all about choices.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Smartypants
Razr was clearly referring to the principle of socialism that everyone gets treated the same, no matter how hard they work. Bringing that to Razr's point, she was saying people on food stamps (who have not worked for the food that is put into their baskets) get the same food as herself, even though she worked for it.
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That's not what socialism is. Socialism is the collective society having ownership over certain services. The United States is quite a socialist place. We all pay taxes and they run the post office, fire department, police department, schools, and even food stamps. It belongs to all of us. If you become poor, it's available to you too!
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Smartypants
Razr was clearly referring to the principle of socialism that everyone gets treated the same, no matter how hard they work. Bringing that to Razr's point, she was saying people on food stamps (who have not worked for the food that is put into their baskets) get the same food as herself, even though she worked for it.
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That's not socialism, that's communism.
Anyways back to Razr's point, people on food stamps can get whatever the hell they want with their food stamps. It is THEIRS at the end of the day and not anybody else's
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Originally posted by CoolestPerson12
So are you saying poor people do nothing? They don't even try? Ignorance, pure ignorance. Go see the world, its not rainbows and butterflies.
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I think it is you who has not seen the world.
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by Smartypants
Razr was clearly referring to the principle of socialism that everyone gets treated the same, no matter how hard they work. Bringing that to Razr's point, she was saying people on food stamps (who have not worked for the food that is put into their baskets) get the same food as herself, even though she worked for it.
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That's not Socialism, that's COMMUNISM. Socialism is having the government help the poor, and making sure they don't get abused by companies.
America isn't that socialist, places like Scandinavia, Canada, Norther Europe and the like are. And they are doing way better than Americans. If you were to say a poor person can work hard and be well off I would agree if it were those places. But it doesn't work like that here.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Smartypants
A family pack of Frito Lay chips costs about $5 at the grocery store I work at.
A family pack of chicken breasts costs about $5 as well.
It's all about choices.
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I can't
Chicken is not the only option out there, and I surely wouldn't list that as healthy either (well it depends on how you prepare it). But no healthy choices are much more expensive than you think, there's a reason why organic products are much more expensive than "processed foods"
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Smartypants
A family pack of Frito Lay chips costs about $5 at the grocery store I work at.
A family pack of chicken breasts costs about $5 as well.
It's all about choices.
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i can't deal with this It's nice that chips are that expensive where you live, but that doesn't disprove the FACT that chicken is more expensive than chips.
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by Razr
I think it is you who has not seen the world.
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I have, which is why I"M saying that hard work does not always guarantee food on the table. I have volunteered way too many times to help these people to be told I haven't seen the world. I've seen the disparity between rich and poor in this country. So don't sit there and tell me, I haven't seen the world.
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Originally posted by Ties
Do you understand why those stories are so special? Because of how impossible it is to make it out of those situations. Pretty much miracles.
You really need to grow up and realize that the universe really doesn't care if we did the right things or work hard. A lot of life has to do with pure luck. We aren't completely in control of our lives like we wish we are. But keep living in your fantasy world, sis.
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The fact of the matter is: success stories do happen. Deal with it.
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by Smartypants
The fact of the matter is: success stories do happen. Deal with it.
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So no one fails in your imaginary world or something?
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Originally posted by CoolestPerson12
I have, which is why I"M saying that hard work does not always guarantee food on the table. I have volunteered way too many times to help these people to be told I haven't seen the world. I've seen the disparity between rich and poor in this country. So don't sit there and tell me, I haven't seen the world.
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I will. You volunteer. So what? You see groups of poor people gather together and you sympathize with them. There is a reason some people are rich and some people are not.
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Originally posted by Smartypants
The fact of the matter is: success stories do happen. Deal with it.
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But not everyone has success stories like that. I mean if that were the case than NOBODY would be poor.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Razr
I will. You volunteer. So what? You see groups of poor people gather together and you sympathize with them. There is a reason some people are rich and some people are not.
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Yeah because some people have grand opportunities paved for them by other people and some people work three times as hard and barely get a drop of what a rich person gets
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Smartypants
The fact of the matter is: success stories do happen. Deal with it.
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OK? And what about the people that don't succeed? Screw them, right?
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Member Since: 6/15/2012
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Originally posted by RatedG²
I can't
Chicken is not the only option out there, and I surely wouldn't list that as healthy either (well it depends on how you prepare it). But no healthy choices are much more expensive than you think, there's a reason why organic products are much more expensive than "processed foods"
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Chicken breasts are widely known as the leanest and healthiest part of the chicken.
And no one is telling food stamp users to buy organic stuff. Just healthier stuff.
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