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Album: Maroon 5 - 'Overexposed'
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Originally posted by Bea.
He will still do it.
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I doubt it. He has said that before I believe.
And yay at the leak! Too many fabulous albums at once right now!  Wish Nelly hadn't been delayed.
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I doubt it. He has said that before I believe.
And yay at the leak! Too many fabulous albums at once right now! Wish Nelly hadn't been delayed. |
He also said celebrity perfumes should be punishable by death and he has one coming out.
I love him and his music but he will do anything for money and I am quite sure that includes go solo.
Having listened to the album a few times there are some real growers, loving it!
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Originally posted by Bea.
He also said celebrity perfumes should be punishable by death and he has one coming out.
I love him and his music but he will do anything for money and I am quite sure that includes go solo.
Having listened to the album a few times there are some real growers, loving it!
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We'd have to see. 
"Lucky Strike"  My new "GALM". 
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WHERE HAVE I BEEN?  I gotta dl
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This album is so good. Knew the snippets wouldn't do it justice! 
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Tickets is so good. 
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this is AMAZING
I LOVE IT
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I LOVE IT!!!!
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Hm.
I just finished listening and it was very generic, uninspired, bland, mediocre, cheesy mainstream pop. There were a few standout tracks (mostly the ones written solely by Levine, Valentine, and/or Madden), but most of them were not that great. It was fun and nice, but it wasn't the same Maroon 5 AT ALL. I was expecting this, and maybe the songs will grow on me, but still 
I'll be interested to see what gallimel has to say about this. Now excuse me while I wash my ears out with SAJ, IWBSBL, and HAO.
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Originally posted by KliFF
Hm.
I just finished listening and it was very generic, bland, cheesy, mainstream pop, but there were a few better tracks (mostly the ones written solely by Levine, Valentine, and/or Madden). It was fun and nice, but it wasn't the same Maroon 5 at all. I was expecting this, and maybe the songs will grow on me, but still
I'll be interested to see what gallimel has to say about it. |
gallimel doesn't listen to leaks  But in Italy it comes out on Friday so soon I will give my opinion.
I have been submitted by friends to a few tracks (Sad, Doing Dirt, Lucky Strike, Daylight) and I LOVED them all.
Being prepared to them being pop didn't ruin my expectations at all, and so far along with the fact I totally adore One More Night, I can already say I will easily like the entire album.
So far Sad even made me cry.
That's for sure the track Adam recorded at the middle of April with also Jesse and James, the song he wrote on twitter "was giving him goosebumps" while singing, which is exactly what he gives me at listening to it.
I can place so far each song in his two years long relationship, and this makes the record true and valuable to me.
Being equally interested in many sounds, it doesn't make me miss guitars on this one at all and anyway I will get the guitars on their live versions, which is one of the reason I enjoy their stripped down live gigs a lot: I totally hope for acoustic version of sad because I will cry again at the gig itself).
In a Music Connection Interview last month, Levine said that for him lyrics are the most important thing when he composes "each word is said, and how it is said".
These tracks I have listened to, even if just one time each, greatly depict the truth he was trying to tell, so I can already claim myself satisfied with that part of the songwriting.
Melodies are uncanny (that's a staple with Maroon 5) and personally I can relate to a lot of what I have listened so far, and even more if I recall what Levine and his then-girlfriend were living the past months.
I need to listen to all the record, at least three times and following exactly the order they planned to give to the titles (that generally matters for them) before to form a consistent opinion, but already from what I got so far, I am enjoying the album way more than I was expecting to (and I hadn't low expectations, so that is saying something).
Actually Payphone (which I like a lot) is easily the weakest track among those I have listened to.
This album is meant to be pop. And for me it's consistent, groovy, sing-along-able, variated enough pop to be one of the best record this year in that field.
If people would stop to wait for another SAJ, they could enjoy all this a lot more.
I definitely am.
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Originally posted by gallimel
gallimel doesn't listen to leaks But in Italy it comes out on Friday so soon I will give my opinion.
I have been submitted by friends to a few tracks (Sad, Doing Dirt, Lucky Strike, Daylight) and I LOVED them all.
Being prepared to them being pop didn't ruin my expectations at all, and so far along with the fact I totally adore One More Night, I can already say I will easily like the entire album.
So far Sad even made me cry.
That's for sure the track Adam recorded at the middle of April with also Jesse and James, the song he wrote on twitter "was giving him goosebumps" while singing, which is exactly what he gives me at listening to it.
I can place so far each song in his two years long relationship, and this makes the record true and valuable to me.
Being equally interested in many sounds, it doesn't make me miss guitars on this one at all and anyway I will get the guitars on their live versions, which is one of the reason I enjoy their stripped down live gigs a lot: I totally hope for acoustic version of sad because I will cry again at the gig itself).
In a Music Connection Interview last month, Levine said that for him lyrics are the most important thing when he composes "each word is said, and how it is said".
These tracks I have listened to, even if just one time each, greatly depict the truth he was trying to tell, so I can already claim myself satisfied with that part of the songwriting.
Melodies are uncanny (that's a staple with Maroon 5) and personally I can relate to a lot of what I have listened so far, and even more if I recall what Levine and his then-girlfriend were living the past months.
I need to listen to all the record, at least three times and following exactly the order they planned to give to the titles (that generally matters for them) before to form a consistent opinion, but already from what I got so far, I am enjoying the album way more than I was expecting to (and I hadn't low expectations, so that is saying something).
Actually Payphone (which I like a lot) is easily the weakest track among those I have listened to.
This album is meant to be pop. And for me it's consistent, groovy, sing-along-able, variated enough pop to be one of the best record this year in that field.
If people would stop to wait for another SAJ, they could enjoy all this a lot more.
I definitely am. |
So sincere of you! I couldn't wait that long (about the leaks) 
I changed my response a bit more since I'm listening to their older stuff now too.
Payphone, One More Night, Daylight, and Beautiful Goodbye are some of the better tracks with mediocre writing. One More Night's lyrical content always reminds me Christina's 'Genie in a Bottle' 
Lady Killer, Fortune Teller, Sad, and Tickets are the only tracks that even come close the lyrical quality and substance of their past work. Oh and look, those are the only 4 songs that are written by Levine, Valentine, and/or Madden.
What no one is saying though is that Maroon5 has always been "pop". When they came out, they were pop, and they are still pop to this day. This album was change because it is MAINSTREAM sing songy pop. It's funny that you mention that Adam said "lyrics are the most important thing" because they obviously weren't for this album. It is watered down and impersonal just like many other pop songs that you hear on the radio.
This is my first impression (and I can usually get a good feel of things from the start), but this album is just average. It's not bad, but it's not as good compared to their other works. It's everyday pop that you hear on the radio. It stays in one, rather average, place where their other albums have been all over the place while still being a cohesive effort. Honestly, that is what makes it worse than their other albums. If I wanted to hear radio-friendly pop songs with a male lead, I can just listen to Gym Class Heroes or something.
Now I'll still be bopping to this, but it'll probably be my least favorite album from them. I look forward to your full review
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Originally posted by KliFF
So sincere of you! I couldn't wait that long (about the leaks)
I changed my response a bit more since I'm listening to their older stuff now too.
Payphone, One More Night, Daylight, and Beautiful Goodbye are some of the better tracks with mediocre writing. One More Night's lyrical content always reminds me Christina's 'Genie in a Bottle'
Lady Killer, Fortune Teller, Sad, and Tickets are the only tracks that even come close the lyrical quality and substance of their past work. Oh and look, those are the only 4 songs that are written by Levine, Valentine, and/or Madden.
What no one is saying though is that Maroon5 has always been "pop". When they came out, they were pop, and they are still pop to this day. This album was change because it is MAINSTREAM sing songy pop. It's funny that you mention that Adam said "lyrics are the most important thing" because they obviously weren't for this album. It is watered down and impersonal just like many other pop songs that you hear on the radio.
This is my first impression (and I can usually get a good feel of things from the start), but this album is just average. It's not bad, but it's not as good compared to their other works. It's everyday pop that you hear on the radio. It stays in one, rather average, place where their other albums have been all over the place while still being a cohesive effort. Honestly, that is what makes it worse than their other albums. If I wanted to hear radio-friendly pop songs with a male lead, I can just listen to Gym Class Heroes or something.
Now I'll still be bopping to this, but it'll probably be my least favorite album from them. I look forward to your full review |
I don't want to balance out your opinion, because they are yours and nobody could.
If this is what you get from the record, fine, that is what truth for you is
I completely disagree on the lyrical content though: again you probably have to be aware of Adam's life contents to judge how poignant the lyrics can actually be... I think some of them are even TOO real to be frank but that's what I like the most in them (I can speak only of the songs I've listened to obvioulsy).
I completely agree Maroon 5 have always been "pop". It's the amount of funk/R&B infusion that has drastically diminished (or even faded enough to disappear) in this album that you are probably regretting and missing, and that influences the way lyrics also are written.
The genre request has an effect on lyrical composition, because the verses in pure mainstream pop songs have to be shorter, and that forces rhymes to seem generally less "high level": what you consider a flaw in Overexposed, it's actually the way lyrics had to be adapted to meet the pure pop sound Maroon 5 wanted to achieve.
I see the way they matched their target as a PLUS for this record.
I consider it as a homework, in a way:
like... this is what we want to obtain... a pure mainstream pop record.
What it takes?
They evalued the genre, decided to go full for it, and the result is undeniably a pure mainstream pop record with all the elements one must have.
Now many won't like that, but many others will.
Maroon 5 knew that already after Moves Like Jagger, and one can call that "selling out", but they have always been very adamant about the fact to them commercial success matter a LOT.
I appreciate that honest attitude infinitely.
I am sure when they will want to get back to more refined sounds, they will and again they will master it.
Their versatility for me is actually one of the major reasons I love them as musicians.
But no problem if other people won't see anything of what I see in them or in Overexposed.
Music world is beautiful just because people can disagree and relate to many different things... it makes it all way more interesting doesn't it?
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I don't want to balance out your opinion, because they are yours and nobody could.
If this is what you get from the record, fine, that is what truth for you is |
Same here 
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I completely disagree on the lyrical content though: again you probably have to be aware of Adam's life contents to judge how poignant the lyrics can actually be... I think some of them are even TOO real to be frank but that's what I like the most in them (I can speak only of the songs I've listened to obvioulsy).
I completely agree Maroon 5 have always been "pop". It's the amount of funk/R&B infusion that has drastically diminished (or even faded enough to disappear) in this album that you are probably regretting and missing, and that influences the way lyrics also are written.
The genre request has an effect on lyrical composition, because the verses in pure mainstream pop songs have to be shorter, and that forces rhymes to seem generally less "high level": what you consider a flaw in Overexposed, it's actually the way lyrics had to be adapted to meet the pure pop sound Maroon 5 wanted to achieve. |
I think you hit the nail on the head here. When I heard 'One More Night' I expected more of a mainstream pop feel with other influences since it's kind of funky, but it's still very "pop". It gave me hope that it all wasn't going to be strictly mainstream pop. Sadly that's what most of it is.
You bring up a good point about the genre effect on lyrics. I understand that the genre change can have an effect on them, but they also allowed other writers to come in this time, and it shows. When I was listening to some of the songs for the first time, I was thinking, 'who wrote this because I know it wasn't Adam and co'.
I was going to use 'Love Somebody' as an example, but you haven't heard that so I won't ruin that for you
But looking at 'Doin Dirt' the last few lyrics are:
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So right now, I wanna leave with you right now
I wanna be with you all night, in the car let's go
Yeah let's take it home, let's take it home, let's take it home
So right now, I wanna leave with you right now
I wanna be with you all night, in the car let's go
Yeah let's take it home, let's take it home, let's take it home
Hold me we're dancing in the dark of the night
You're shining like a neon light
I like you up, when I get inside
So won't you touch me? cause everybody's watching us now
We're putting on a show for the crowd
So turn it up baby make it loud
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So it's about being with someone, taking them home, and maybe more, but compare that to something like 'Kiwi,' (IWBSBL) last few lyrics, in a similar vain, and there's a HUGE difference in lyrical quality.
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I can’t wait to take you home
Fingers through your hair
Kisses on your back
Scratch me with your nails
Save me from myself
Show me how to care
Get everything out
Dripping everywhere
Lipstick smeared all over your face
How much longer must we wait?
Don’t think that I can wait
Sweet kiwi
Your juices dripping down my chin
So please, let me
Don’t stop it before it begins
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Now you cannot look me in the eyes and truthfully tell me that the writing is equal for both songs. The writing done by the other writers is just so corny and cheesy compared to theirs. Like "Hold me we're dancing in the dark of the night"?, "I like you up, when I get inside"? "We're putting on a show for the crowd"? I just can't 
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I see the way they matched their target as a PLUS for this record.
I consider it as a homework, in a way:
like... this is what we want to obtain... a pure mainstream pop record.
What it takes?
They evalued the genre, decided to go full for it, and the result is undeniably a pure mainstream pop record with all the elements one must have.
Now many won't like that, but many others will.
Maroon 5 knew that already after Moves Like Jagger, and one can call that "selling out", but they have always been very adamant about the fact to them commercial success matter a LOT.
I appreciate that honest attitude infinitely.
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I agree with you here. They are capitalizing on the moment, which is the smart thing to do. However, by doing this, they are not fully themselves either. They have such district sound and writing that at times, while listening to the record, it didn't really sound as if I was listening to the real Maroon 5, other than hearing Adam's voice. But again, they are doing the smart thing here, and not trying to put together a brilliant album or anything, so it makes sense.
I just don't like it because the M5 that is different than your average everyday pop band and the one that I fell in love with is not the one that's on this album. If they aren't true to themselves or unique, then nothing really makes them special. The same could be said about dozens of other artists as well.
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I am sure when they will want to get back to more refined sounds, they will and again they will master it.
Their versatility for me is actually one of the major reasons I love them as musicians.
But no problem if other people won't see anything of what I see in them or in Overexposed.
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I agree, and hopefully if they have their own recording company after this, they will be able to master their old sound more, as well as releasing more music that is successful and keeps them unique all the while.
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OMG Doin Dirt is so amazing 
Single please!!
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Same here
I think you hit the nail on the head here. When I heard 'One More Night' I expected more of a mainstream pop feel with other influences since it's kind of funky, but it's still very "pop". It gave me hope that it all wasn't going to be strictly mainstream pop. Sadly that's what most of it is.
You bring up a good point about the genre effect on lyrics. I understand that the genre change can have an effect on them, but they also allowed other writers to come in this time, and it shows. When I was listening to some of the songs for the first time, I was thinking, 'who wrote this because I know it wasn't Adam and co'.
I was going to use 'Love Somebody' as an example, but you haven't heard that so I won't ruin that for you
But looking at 'Doin Dirt' the last few lyrics are:
So it's about being with someone, taking them home, and maybe more, but compare that to something like 'Kiwi,' (IWBSBL) last few lyrics, in a similar vain, and there's a HUGE difference in lyrical quality.
Now you cannot look me in the eyes and truthfully tell me that the writing is equal for both songs. The writing done by the other writers is just so corny and cheesy compared to theirs. Like "Hold me we're dancing in the dark of the night"?, "I like you up, when I get inside"? "We're putting on a show for the crowd"? I just can't
I agree with you here. They are capitalizing on the moment, which is the smart thing to do. However, by doing this, they are not fully themselves either. They have such district sound and writing that at times, while listening to the record, it didn't really sound as if I was listening to the real Maroon 5, other than hearing Adam's voice. But again, they are doing the smart thing here, and not trying to put together a brilliant album or anything, so it makes sense.
I just don't like it because the M5 that is different than your average everyday pop band and the one that I fell in love with is not the one that's on this album. If they aren't true to themselves or unique, then nothing really makes them special. The same could be said about dozens of other artists as well.
I agree, and hopefully if they have their own recording company after this, they will be able to master their old sound more, as well as releasing more music that is successful and keeps them unique all the while. |
I love to talk with you about thi! Every new point you make makes me re-evaluate mines and this is great... one of the reasons I like being over this place as soon as I can 
I just want to try to explain those bits in Doing Dirt (what I saw in them at least), and telling you Kiwi is one of my favorite M5 songs EVER, too
Anyway... Doing Dirt depicts (from what I get) the "at distance" relationship Adam and Anne V had to sustain.
Whoever followed their twitters know they were used to stay awake in opposite sides of the globe 80% of times they spent as a couple... so let's guess in a way Skype became their way sometimes to "connect". I suppose when they had their moments of time together, it had happened that the night out with friends they had wanted to be soon turned into "let's go home by ourselves and let's spend OUR time together".
Doing Dirt for real and not merely over Skype/subsidiaries ways.
This are the lyrics:
" Oh, yeah, oh yeah
Hey you, don't want to love you on the telephone
You're hanging up and now I am all alone
Baby you got me doing dirt, doing dirt, doing dirt
And now I wanna fan you but you're off the run
My heart's exploding like a burning some
I know you like it when it hurts, when it hurts
Hold me we're dancing in the dark of the night
You're shining like a neon light
I like you up, when I get inside
So won't you touch me? cause everybody's watching us now
We're putting on a show for the crowd
So turn it up baby make it loud
Hey you, say that you're only have and then
You call me up at 3am again
Baby you got me doing dirt, doing dirt, doing dirt
And now all that I got is just a microphone
To let you know that I am all alone
I know you like it when it hurts, when it hurts
Hold me we're dancing in the dark of the night
You're shining like a neon light
I like you up, when I get inside
So won't you touch me? cause everybody's watching us now
We're putting on a show for the crowd
So turn it up baby make it loud
Yeah, come on
So right now, I wanna leave with you right now
I wanna be with you all night, in the car let's go
Yeah let's take it home, let's take it home, let's take it home
So right now, I wanna leave with you right now
I wanna be with you all night, in the car let's go
Yeah let's take it home, let's take it home, let's take it home
Hold me we're dancing in the dark of the night
You're shining like a neon light
I like you up, when I get inside
So won't you touch me? cause everybody's watching us now
We're putting on a show for the crowd
So turn it up baby make it loud"
Undeniably, the part where he hints at the whole world watching them could not be any truer.
They loved to show off a lot, didn't they? (it's part of Adam's egomaniac tendency). That difficult balance they had to face among limited time being together, lots of eyes on themselves, and their different approaches to life also tainted the relationship a lot, and in some other song you get that clearly as well.
Doing Dirt is a song about the need of a truer skin contact in a couple with a way too limited time to spend together, but united by so much passion through things anyway.
The connotation of the "fair" and "light", shining female counterpart is also natural... Anne V is the quintessential description of a Russian beauty and truly luminous, so I don't see anything particularly strange in the way the lyrics parallels joy and happy sexuality with her physical features.
As for the literacy of the descriptions, that is a club song and there's nothing really that strange in the "I like you up when I go inside".
It's all expected... Adam's very visual and has always been, and if in Kiwi he worded out things more, it's probably just because Natasha Bedingfield (the person the song might have been written about in many's books) probably inspired him more worded things
(you can never tell)
I likethe simplicity and the groove of Doing Dirt.
I would have never expected to dance on Maroon 5 but now I can add that to their list of gifts to me
I still consider the lyrics mostly Adam effort and so I wouldn't really consider other people's involvement on them that mattering; also because he would never sing things he doesn't feel near to his idea first (he declared it numerous times).
About the fact they want to part with the record label... I don't know how I feel about that.
I don't think it's a smart move to declare that on the verge of album promotional duties, because a label that is already lazy on you can already give up to you completely (did you see any major promotion, banners or anything for Overexposed? NO. And that is one of the reason probably: if I know an act will leave my tutoring, I won't really spend money as I could have under different circumstances on them, because that would benefit somebody that is soon becoming a competitor on me, and not a part of my roster).
But they have their strong views about the way a record company should handle bands and most definitely they were dissatisfied with Interscope/Octone already from 2008, so... we can just wait and see where this break up will lead them.
That's gonna be... interesting
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This album is such a let down. Seems like I expected too much. 
I'm only here for Payphone, The Man Who Never Lied, One More Night and Wipe Your Eyes. The rest are just meh.
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I wasn't even anticipating the album, but yesterday I heard a few tracks and it was TRULY enjoyable.
I'll give it a proper listening today and then post my final judgement. 
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