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Poll: Do you really believe Gaga will attain "TFM" success again?
View Poll Results: Do you believe Gaga can reach TFM success again?
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Yeah, it's possible.
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Nah, she peaked.
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Yeah. She's only been around for a bit over 3 years. She's achieved a lot in her career already. I don't see why she can't smash again.
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Yes, I think she missed a natural change between TFM and BTW, it all went too fast, I feel the general public (including me) couldn't easily connect with her anymore, she went from fun pop singer with some debt into religious and debt crazy dressed pop "monster". I think if she tones it down a bit, try to connect with the audience again, she will be fine and will be able to surpass TFM era for sure! She just released 2 albums and a EP, everything is still possible.
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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All the artists have a peak, for example Baby One More Time... was Britney's peak, but she had another peak with "Womanizer" and her album "Circus". Madonna peaked with Like A Prayer, then Ray Of Light appeared. Beyoncé peaked with Crazy In Love, then Singles Ladies appeared. Rihanna peaked with Umbrella, then, We Found Love appeared.
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Nope. As much her stans hate to hear it, she killed whatever could have been with her career in releasing BTW. The album was just too much, too soon. Now she can't go back or grow. Quite baffling, I must say.
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Originally posted by Miracle
Madonna peaked with Like A Prayer, then Ray Of Light appeared. Beyoncé peaked with Crazy In Love, then Singles Ladies appeared. Rihanna peaked with Umbrella, then, We Found Love appeared.
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Beyonce Peaked with Crazy In Love? Then Baby Boy goes to sleep at #1 for 9 weeks.
Rihanna peaked with Umbrella? -_- LOL
Like A Prayer definitely wasn't Madonna's peak -_-.
I can't.
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She's probably not gonna have another era like The Fame (Monster); it wasn't only the unbelievable chart success, it was the overwhelming cultural impact and the birth of a future pop music legend, maybe. If that was her peak, well, that's one of the highest peaks in recent music history.
I think, or at least I hope, that she can still be successful in the future. At this point, she can either slowly continue her decline album after album, or come back stronger than ever. That's up to her and how the public receives the next era. Either way, what she has achieved until now is enough to give her a fair share of respect and legacy.
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Originally posted by okiam
You're really reaching here. Most of the big pop stars achieved the same within their first two albums. I suppose you are talking global impact, as she seems to be average for mega pop stars in regards to sales. I would say her tour numbers were epic, but they really weren't. She just performed a little over double the amount of shows that most artists perform in a tour, but she didn't really double earnings.
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Most artist can't afford to perform 200 shows on their first worldwide tour, simply because they don't have the demand. Otherwise they would. She performed more dates and had a higher average gross than every other girl in their first tour.
Loud Tour (not even a debut tour): 98 dates, gross $90M
California Dreams Tour: 124 dates, gross $60M
Monster Ball Tour: 201 dates, gross $228M
The Born This Way Ball in Taiwan is projected to gross almost $4M with only a not even completely sold-out arena date.
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Originally posted by Lyzz the Monster
Why is it so important though? Last time I check, ALL of the biggest female pop stars nowadays (except Adele) could not match what Gaga has achieved this early in her career.
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Adele never had an era like the Fame (Monster).
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Originally posted by Orsay
Adele never had an era like the Fame (Monster).
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She had an even bigger one.
The difference is that Adele is no real competition for Gaga. Adele is a one-in-music-history thing. She deserves it, but that's not what other popstar's sales should be compared to, since everyone would be flopping compared to her.
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Originally posted by ALA
She has peaked but who knows. She'll have a long career but it just depends on what direction she goes in.
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this
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She has peaked. but doesn't mean she won't be successful.
I mean, here in Australia, she lost her peak after TFM. I mean. I think, not many people were really here for BTW. I mean, months after BTW was out, and The Fame Monster was still in the Top 50 of the Aria Charts while Born This Way. well was no where to be seen.
Yes, she may have sold out her BTW concert, but I mean it's Gaga. of course she will sell out. she puts on amazing concerts.
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Originally posted by iLukey
She has peaked. but doesn't mean she won't be successful.
I mean, here in Australia, she lost her peak after TFM. I mean. I think, not many people were really here for BTW. I mean, months after BTW was out, and The Fame Monster was still in the Top 50 of the Aria Charts while Born This Way. well was no where to be seen.
Yes, she may have sold out her BTW concert, but I mean it's Gaga. of course she will sell out. she puts on amazing concerts.
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I might be wrong, but I'm quite sure this never happened.
Born This Way era had mixed reception in Australia, but the lead single is 4xPlatinum and other singles were successful too, though Marry The Night flopped hard.
This summer, the album spent a lot of weeks at number two only behind Adele. It's still holding quite well in the top100 and will probably hit 3xPlatinum once the tour comes there.
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
Most artist can't afford to perform 200 shows on their first worldwide tour, simply because they don't have the demand. She performed more dates and had a higher average gross than every other girl in their first tour.
Loud Tour (not even a debut tour): 98 dates, gross $90M
California Dreams Tour: 124 dates, gross $60M
Monster Ball Tour: 201 dates, gross $228M
The Born This Way Ball in Taiwan is projected to gross almost $4M with only a not even completely sold-out arena date.
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I agree with you. But at the end of the day, Britney Spears performed 97 shows, half asleep, and raked in over $130 million. I think Britney sort of came out a tad better in worked much less for a higher return financially.
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Originally posted by Nicole
But I'm not going to keep bumping the thread of someone who should be more worried about how 6 smash Gagaesque singles from the Luke & Martin factory + a re-release couldn't sell 2.5M albums WW.
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I don't know what kind of Katy shade this is.
You can say "The Luke and Martin Factory", but at the end of the day ALL of them went to #1. So whether you think they're generic or whatever, it does't matter because OBVIOUSLY the GP connected with them. Katy's the one who tied with the King of Pop
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An era like TFM really only comes along once in an artist's life time, if at all. She won't have another TFM but that doesn't mean she can't have extremely successful eras in the future.
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