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Discussion: PF: RR Metacritic score so far
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Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker
People keep saying 400k first week, but I don't know. I think y'all are saying that because of her last album's first week sales. The pre-order never cracked the top ten, so I don't think people are as excited for this album. I think the album will sell around 1-3m WW when it's all said and done.
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Her demographic isn't necessarily the pre-order type, to be fair about that. But I don't see 400k either, for many other reasons.
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With a figure that looks like an R. Crumb cartoon, a wardrobe that takes its color cues from a jumbo box of Crayola crayons, and facial expressions that run from farcical to psychotic, it's small wonder many tend to talk more about what Minaj looks like than how she sounds.
The peak parts of the star’s second CD, “Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded,” turn that trend smack on its back. The rhythms, textures and inflections of the best tracks far outfreak, and outwit, any get-up the star has ever sported.
Take the opening cut, “Roman Holiday.” When Minaj previewed this ditty on the Grammys back in February, her zany (some said blasphemous) theatrics obscured the originality of both the beat and of Minaj’s rapping attack.
On the disk, you can bask in her fitful, stuttering style — a manic cadence informed by its own grace. In the space of one track, Minaj mixes pitches and flows to create as much rhythmic surprise as a top comic.
Using the persona of Roman Zolanski — the most amped-up gay man imaginable — Minaj unleashes a great spew of profane humor. She matches that to vocal and percussive rhythms that meld a Trinidadian patois, a New York attitude and a Hindi-hip-hop bounce. Such a pan-cultural swirl shoots Missy Elliot’s brand of hip-hop surreality to the moon.
Unfortunately, it’s a style and philosophy that occupies only so much of the CD. The next five tracks do their part to keep things edgy, as Minaj applies her visionary sound to the street. They sound like the snappy tracks that fired her early mixed tapes.
Had the album stuck with that hard, mean sound, Minaj might have created the most radical hip-hop album of the year. But she’s too fidgety and greedy for that. She goes on to divide the CD into three sections, as distinct and isolated from each other as gated communities.
Minaj carves out a five-song oasis of mainstream dance-pop, informed by the kind of auto-tuned vocals and tics that could come from any pop star who could afford a David Guetta remix. These are followed by four ill-advised ballads.
The best of the dance tracks still click. The single, “Starships,” offers a tease of an ideal summer song. But it’s the kind of thing fans could just as easily get from another island-inflected poster girl: Rihanna. The more problematic ballads falter by too cravenly aiming for the vulnerable side of Minaj, a feature best left to her therapist and to implication. Doesn’t everyone know the hardest characters hide the deepest hurts?
Luckily, Minaj rallies in the album’s demented finale, “Stupid Ho.” It’s a masterpiece of depravity, filth and rhythmic belligerence.
Unlike fellow physical punch line Lady Gaga, who dresses avant but whose music couldn’t be more conventional, Minaj proves here she can sound every bit as jaw-dropping as she looks. In an ideal world, she would honor that rarity more often, using it to create her own hip-hop theater of the absurd.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...#ixzz1qyHqc5Ef
Respectfully critiqued.
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Originally posted by Nicole
It's funny how people say critics' reviews don't matter when they're negative, but for every album, when the early positive ones come in, threads are made and stans rejoice, brag and start working on quotes for their signatures.
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ikr !!!
I predict 40-45 score, When all is said and done, the baddest reviews always get added to MC at the end so i guess this are the "good" reviews..
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Can't say i'm surprised. The fact Nicki hardly listens to criticism is the reason she won't learn from her past mistakes. This is a wake up call. The album was shockingly bad, though.
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Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker
I totally agree. People were excited for her with PF because she was a new hip hop girl in the game, but over the past year or so, she has morphed into nothing but another pop girl.
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Sis an album doesn't have to go #1 on preorders to be successful.
Wayne's Tha Carter 4 didn't hit #1 on pre-orders and it sold 900K the first week, just saying.
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Originally posted by Willy.
Sis an album doesn't have to go #1 on preorders to be successful.
Wayne's Tha Carter 4 didn't hit #1 on pre-orders and it sold 900K the first week, just saying.
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the success of a pre-order shows interest and if the pre-order doesn't do well, your first week sales will probably not be that high.
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I need to check this. Srsly how it is that bad?
I have already listened to more than enough bad new music, though.
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I had my doubts about Nicki opening up with strong figures, mainly because I think there is sort of a backlash going on after the Grammy performance and in the urban community. However, she should still open up with strong enough figures first week because she is the most buzz about artist at the moment, good or bad. The second week drop should be interesting. I don't see the album holding up well after the first week, so we shall see.
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Lmao at popmatters 1/10
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Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the success of a pre-order shows interest and if the pre-order doesn't do well, your first week sales will probably not be that high.
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Okay but like I just said, Tha Carter 4 didn't do well in pre-orders and still sold 900K in its first week. iTunes in general isn't a good representation considering all of Rihanna's last few albums did amazing in pre-orders.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
I had my doubts about Nicki opening up with strong figures, mainly because I think there is sort of a backlash going on after the Grammy performance and in the urban community. However, she should still open up with strong enough figures first week because she is the most buzz about artist at the moment, good or bad. The second week drop should be interesting. I don't see the album holding up well after the first week, so we shall see.
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Every single "big" urban blog has nothing positive to say. On many of the urban websites (106LA) for instance, they use the PF promo pictures of her. She truly has lost them. She has put all her faith into succeeding in the "pop/suburban" sector that she has no middle ground to fall back on. Even BET won't want her . Even Drake's verse is poor, even for him
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Originally posted by TheVoiceXtina
Every single "big" urban blog has nothing positive to say. On many of the urban websites (106LA) for instance, they use the PF promo pictures of her. She truly has lost them. She has put all her faith into succeeding in the "pop/suburban" sector that she has no middle ground to fall back on. Even BET won't want her . Even Drake's verse is poor, even for him
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BET doesn't want her and yet they gave her two full hours of 106 & Park
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker
People keep saying 400k first week, but I don't know. I think y'all are saying that because of her last album's first week sales. The pre-order never cracked the top ten, so I don't think people are as excited for this album. I think the album will sell around 1-3m WW when it's all said and done.
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And 1.3M WW?
More like +1.3 in the US alone.
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Originally posted by TheVoiceXtina
Every single "big" urban blog has nothing positive to say. On many of the urban websites (106LA) for instance, they use the PF promo pictures of her. She truly has lost them. She has put all her faith into succeeding in the "pop/suburban" sector that she has no middle ground to fall back on. Even BET won't want her . Even Drake's verse is poor, even for him
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I don't think she has gotten an urban hit this era. "Stupid Hoe" and "Roman Reloaded" were treated as buzz singles but didn't get the same treatment as "Starships." If her album flops or underperforms in some way, then she has no one to blame but herself. She wanted to appease the fickle pop crowd, so she has to deal with the results. Maybe it would be a wakeup call for her to do what other Hip Hop stars are doing, and that's predominantly Hip Hop music. I still say a strong opening with a swift fall.
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if you don't like the album...FINE
*Kanye shrugs*
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omg
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wow
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
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5 out of 5 or out of 10?
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Originally posted by EOMM92
5 out of 5 or out of 10?
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5 point 5, so that should be out of a 10.
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