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Discussion: What has Rihanna done that's iconic?
Member Since: 4/3/2011
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Originally posted by Deuces.
It's interesting you brought Paula up. When Kworb said her career as a whole makes her iconic, I was going to bring Paula up. I mean Paula smashed hit after hit, but I never really hear her being referred to as an icon. But I don't know much about Paula to even dwell into that topic.
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What people dont seem to understand is that to be a Legend or an Icon, its more than having #1 or #1 album. I mean look at The Beatles, they havent release an album since like 3 or 4 decades but they still manage to sells 10 millions records this year alone. There are alot of songs that never scored the #1 position but still HIghly praise. Who could dare to argue if Bohemian Rhapsody is legendary or not ? It still one of the most play in the world and God know how much the critics werent here for Queen when that song was released and was called a nosense.
To be Iconic you have to get a vision first. You have to impact people in a way and leave a legacy that will be remember.
How many #1 singles David Bowie got in his career ? Yeah and we all know how respected he is by anyone who follow music. Ziggy is Iconic, Rihanna has yet to achieve that.
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Member Since: 9/21/2010
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Originally posted by Disturbia
It's a shame actually considering the fact that she doesn't even write her songs.
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She doesn't write all of them.
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Member Since: 9/18/2011
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Originally posted by hausofkisuke
Nope. The Rihanna stans are saying the same delusional **** they always say.
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It's not delusion when we've been telling the truth.
And Rihanna is iconic. Especially to you. You've been in this thread for the past 30 minutes just proving how wrong your point is
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by FreeBitch
What people dont seem to understand is that to be a Legend or an Icon, its more than having #1 or #1 album. I mean look at The Beatles, they havent release an album since like 3 or 4 decades but they still manage to sells 10 millions records this year alone. There are alot of songs that never scored the #1 position but still HIghly praise. Who could dare to argue if Bohemian Rhapsody is legendary or not ? It still one of the most play in the world and God know how much the critics werent here for Queen when that song was released and was called a nosense.
To be Iconic you have to get a vision first. You have to impact people in a way and leave a legacy that will be remember.
How many #1 singles David Bowie got in his career ? Yeah and we all know how respected he is by anyone who follow music. Ziggy is Iconic, Rihanna has yet to achieve that.
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None of the current pop girls can even touch the success/impact that The Beatles/Queen/etc had/have.
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by WAZZZUP
Of course her voice is iconic.
People will know it's a Rihanna song after a few words.
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This goes for most artists, though.
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Member Since: 9/17/2011
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Originally posted by castrobabytiger
your right about the other songs but i think anyone could have sung only girl and made it a hit...there are a lot of songs she has that she can only pull off and that isn't one of them ( nor is dont stop the music)
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Oh really, JHud pretty much made an 'Only Girl' clone with Night of You Life produced by Davide Guetta (same producer of 'Only Girl') yet it wasn't a hit...
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Member Since: 6/19/2010
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Originally posted by WAZZZUP
She doesn't write all of them.
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How many of her #1s did she write?
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Member Since: 11/4/2011
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Originally posted by CristianGarcia
It's not delusion when we've been telling the truth.
And Rihanna is iconic. Especially to you. You've been in this thread for the past 30 minutes just proving how wrong your point is
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I am wrong when just yesterday EW said the same thing as me?
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by hausofkisuke
I am wrong when just yesterday EW said the same thing as me?
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They didn't.
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Member Since: 9/21/2010
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Originally posted by YeaBey4ever
This goes for most artists, though.
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Not really.
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Member Since: 7/19/2009
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Originally posted by WAZZZUP
Of course her voice is iconic.
People will know it's a Rihanna song after a few words.
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Yes you remember Rihanna's voice because there doesn't come up a popstar in my mind who has a whiny voice like Rihanna and whiny is not bad. But almost every popstar has a voice that everyone recognize.
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Member Since: 10/18/2009
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Rihanna will be forgotten in the future just like the fact that she was supposed to be a one hit wonder after PON DE REPLAY, yet 6 years later, she sold and broke more records than your faves.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by Manchs
Not in the US, sis
She has several Platinum albums. Good? Yes. That doesn't mean she is an album seller. I like Rihanna, but she is not.
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And Taylor isn't a WW seller. Which is better? You tell me.
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Member Since: 12/16/2011
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Why don't we just have this discussion in like 5 more years? Rihanna has only been active since 2005, and it takes way more than she's been active to be considered an icon.
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Member Since: 7/19/2009
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
And Taylor isn't a WW seller. Which is better? You tell me.
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But this one is actually true.
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Member Since: 9/18/2011
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Originally posted by hausofkisuke
I am wrong when just yesterday EW said the same thing as me?
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Nobody is even here for that. look at what the international charts are saying tho
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by CristianGarcia
How can Rihannas hair be more popular then her? Especially since Rihannas face is right under it
Each single and hit makes Rihannas name more relevent on the charts. Go back 5 years from now and the ONLY artist to still be successful is her. She's a household name
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Gerl.. i'm saying Rihanna as an artist.
There's nothing specially unique or above average about rihanna thats not duplicative as an artist.
Her hair and fashion sense kind of outshone that.
& in 2007, Rihanna was NOT the only artist to be successful. I don't know where we're going with that.
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Member Since: 6/6/2011
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What has Rihanna done that's iconic?
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Her amazing career full of hits and records that your favourites only can dream? And don't forget the masterpiece Rated R.
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Member Since: 6/19/2010
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Originally posted by hausofkisuke
I am wrong when just yesterday EW said the same thing as me?
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Looks like critics agree with us and that's all that matters.
Slate magazine on Rihanna:
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In a sense, getting out of the way is what Rihanna does best. There’s something paradoxical about her: She’s a pop star you almost forget is there. Her presence on songs is, at best, unobtrusive, pliant, less adaptable than compatible, like a chameleon who stays one more or less pleasing color. Extra-musically, she is blurry. Her look changes wholesale from album to album, in an undercooked way that suggests the hiring and firing of stylists rather than, say, some wry, Bowie-style persona shuffle: now she’s a stonewashed-jean Caribbean queen, now an anime fantasy, now a bondage badass, now a Candyland princess, now a ’90s London brat. There’s the nagging impression that her clothes are doing an untenable portion of her identity-building. Rihanna’s biggest headlines came not when she acted out but when she was acted against, viciously, by her then-boyfriend Chris Brown: Rated R, the noisy, brooding 2009 album she released after the attack, carried with it, for the first time in her career, a sense of drama and stakes.
Rihanna’s successes put her in rarefied company, but she is unlike her fellow chart goddesses, not in the thinness of her voice, exactly (Madonna is no great belter, either) but rather in the thinness of her persona. She is not wholly convincing. Pop stars’ songs, however gigantic, typically function as pieces of a bigger puzzle, chapters in an overarching, ever-expanding saga. Mariah, Whitney, Beyoncé, Gaga—these stars feel like stars. Rihanna feels like something else: a one hit-wonder several dozen times over.
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I just love this aricle. So true.
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Member Since: 4/3/2011
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Originally posted by Cas
None of the current pop girls can even touch the success/impact that The Beatles/Queen/etc had/have.
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At least some are trying, that what make them Iconic. I mean try to put Rihanna on the same stage that Prince or Tina Turner, she will be LOST.
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