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Discussion: Is the BTW era losing momentum?
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Honestly, when Gaga came out he was successful because he was a breath of fresh air on the music scene. He was different, but it seemed natural and he wasn't trying to be anything other than who he was as an artist. Unfortunately for him, his "weirdness" became mainstream when artist like Rihanna and Beyonce began trying to get a piece of the pie. Then Ke$ha bursting onto the scene and trying to be a trashier version of Gaga.
This didn't sit well with Sir Gaga. In his constant need to be different, he changed his style on the fame monster to a darker sound. In an attempt to be deep & interesting, Rihanna tried going darker with Rated R, under the guise of "I'm a hurt and physically abused minority, please feel sorry for me as I dance in a black and white video". Then Katy Perry began changing her image completely to fit in and not be the one hit wonder she was always destined to be.
Poor Gaga was too much of a trend setter for her own good. She wanted to be different, but every time she put herself out there, she made her difference mainstream. So she decided to ga back in time with BTW. Copy Madonna, TLC and Cher since no one really called her out on the Ace of Base ripoffs from her previous albums. She even had to resort to ripping off her own songs. Suddenly the "different" Gaga became a copycat. It was sad times. Everything she started doing was so ridiculously out there and such a dramatic change from who she was just two years before that it all felt inauthentic. And it was.
People wanted the real Lady Gaga. Who he was when he was performing in bar parking lots in NYC. But instead, he opted to give them a character. After another two years everyone had abandoned him and he had to downsize his tour to play at summer festivals and malls. In 2014, MTV had him back on at the VMAs for the 5th anniversary of his critically acclaimed 'Paparazzi' performance. It was there, in the year 2014, that lady Gaga reanacted that performance, where the plot is him being killed by fame. But this time, he made sure the blood was real. The wound in his chest was real. He was unstable and couldn't take the pressure of fame anymore. He was a sad person, beaten up by drug abuse and lupus.
His lifeless body hung above the stage as the dancers kept the show going. Blood dripping from his eyes. Just another victim of fame and the press and the paparazzi. He died a martyr. RIP Lady Gaga's career.
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This is hilarious!
Edit: that came off as bitch, but I meant it's hilarious in a cute way, as in the people who made it. I'm getting into Tumblr and I like all these fanmade graphics things.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Originally posted by DejaVu
Honestly, when Gaga came out he was successful because he was a breath of fresh air on the music scene. He was different, but it seemed natural and he wasn't trying to be anything other than who he was as an artist. Unfortunately for him, his "weirdness" became mainstream when artist like Rihanna and Beyonce began trying to get a piece of the pie. Then Ke$ha bursting onto the scene and trying to be a trashier version of Gaga.
This didn't sit well with Sir Gaga. In his constant need to be different, he changed his style on the fame monster to a darker sound. In an attempt to be deep & interesting, Rihanna tried going darker with Rated R, under the guise of "I'm a hurt and physically abused minority, please feel sorry for me as I dance in a black and white video". Then Katy Perry began changing her image completely to fit in and not be the one hit wonder she was always destined to be.
Poor Gaga was too much of a trend setter for her own good. She wanted to be different, but every time she put herself out there, she made her difference mainstream. So she decided to ga back in time with BTW. Copy Madonna, TLC and Cher since no one really called her out on the Ace of Base ripoffs from her previous albums. She even had to resort to ripping off her own songs. Suddenly the "different" Gaga became a copycat. It was sad times. Everything she started doing was so ridiculously out there and such a dramatic change from who she was just two years before that it all felt inauthentic. And it was.
People wanted the real Lady Gaga. Who he was when he was performing in bar parking lots in NYC. But instead, he opted to give them a character. After another two years everyone had abandoned him and he had to downsize his tour to play at summer festivals and malls. In 2014, MTV had him back on at the VMAs for the 5th anniversary of his critically acclaimed 'Paparazzi' performance. It was there, in the year 2014, that lady Gaga reanacted that performance, where the plot is him being killed by fame. But this time, he made sure the blood was real. The wound in his chest was real. He was unstable and couldn't take the pressure of fame anymore. He was a sad person, beaten up by drug abuse and lupus.
His lifeless body hung above the stage as the dancers kept the show going. Blood dripping from his eyes. Just another victim of fame and the press and the paparazzi. He died a martyr. RIP Lady Gaga's career.
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Member Since: 8/24/2008
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Overall Born This Way era has been a dissapointment. It was not the greatest album ever, and it did not live up to the hype. The "I'm going to use a random dj to produce my music" idea & her overusage of religion backfired a great deal.
Born This Way had 6 weeks at #1, sure, but it didn't sell nearly as much as people thought it would, nor did it have the radio longevity. Judas was a big ass flop. The Edge Of Glory is a fantastic song but that too lacked in sales in comparison to what people thought it would do, and couldn't compete with her previous eras. And now You&I is starting to struggle. I really love this song but it's clear people are getting tired of her, or are just not here for the music.
I'm not a hater. I just don't like her new direction. I'd much rather be jamming to Just Dance, Poker Face, LoveGame, Paparazzi, & Telephone.
And sure the album has sold quite a bit, I don't give a ****.
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Originally posted by DejaVu
Honestly, when Gaga came out he was successful because he was a breath of fresh air on the music scene. He was different, but it seemed natural and he wasn't trying to be anything other than who he was as an artist. Unfortunately for him, his "weirdness" became mainstream when artist like Rihanna and Beyonce began trying to get a piece of the pie. Then Ke$ha bursting onto the scene and trying to be a trashier version of Gaga.
This didn't sit well with Sir Gaga. In his constant need to be different, he changed his style on the fame monster to a darker sound. In an attempt to be deep & interesting, Rihanna tried going darker with Rated R, under the guise of "I'm a hurt and physically abused minority, please feel sorry for me as I dance in a black and white video". Then Katy Perry began changing her image completely to fit in and not be the one hit wonder she was always destined to be.
Poor Gaga was too much of a trend setter for her own good. She wanted to be different, but every time she put herself out there, she made her difference mainstream. So she decided to ga back in time with BTW. Copy Madonna, TLC and Cher since no one really called her out on the Ace of Base ripoffs from her previous albums. She even had to resort to ripping off her own songs. Suddenly the "different" Gaga became a copycat. It was sad times. Everything she started doing was so ridiculously out there and such a dramatic change from who she was just two years before that it all felt inauthentic. And it was.
People wanted the real Lady Gaga. Who he was when he was performing in bar parking lots in NYC. But instead, he opted to give them a character. After another two years everyone had abandoned him and he had to downsize his tour to play at summer festivals and malls. In 2014, MTV had him back on at the VMAs for the 5th anniversary of his critically acclaimed 'Paparazzi' performance. It was there, in the year 2014, that lady Gaga reanacted that performance, where the plot is him being killed by fame. But this time, he made sure the blood was real. The wound in his chest was real. He was unstable and couldn't take the pressure of fame anymore. He was a sad person, beaten up by drug abuse and lupus.
His lifeless body hung above the stage as the dancers kept the show going. Blood dripping from his eyes. Just another victim of fame and the press and the paparazzi. He died a martyr. RIP Lady Gaga's career.
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I think if they release Bloody Mary then they can save the BTW era.
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Member Since: 7/22/2010
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I honestly feel the general public is not here for Gaga's newest material. I just wish she could balance things out.
I also hate how Gaga's image this era has been kinda forgettable, she has not worn an iconic outfit once; like she used to in the TF/ TFM era, in which she didn't look SO messy.
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Member Since: 5/6/2011
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Originally posted by Music 2005
Yes she has lost momentum...
No, Marry The Night won't bring it back
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finally, someone who does not overrate Marry the Night!
i don't really get all the love for that song! even Bad Kid is better...
my tea
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Member Since: 9/28/2009
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All albums lose momentum over time, of course. This is due to friction. In the ideal world without illegal downloading and fickle consumers, all albums would keep selling at the same rate, forever, unless external promo acted on it. (Newton's first and second laws of sales)
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by Teen Dreamer
I honestly feel the general public is not here for Gaga's newest material. I just wish she could balance things out.
I also hate how Gaga's image this era has been kinda forgettable, she has not worn an iconic outfit once; like she used to in the TF/ TFM era, in which she didn't look SO messy.
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I was thinking about that today, particularly when I saw the tumblr collage of her promo schedule. Her fashion has gotten too detailed. It's very intricate and elegant and interesting, but it's not memorable. To be memorable it would have to be simple and it would need a single focal point. Pretty much all of the BTW outfits have multiple elements begging for your attention. It's not an improvement.
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Member Since: 4/24/2004
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Originally posted by DejaVu
Honestly, when Gaga came out he was successful because he was a breath of fresh air on the music scene. He was different, but it seemed natural and he wasn't trying to be anything other than who he was as an artist. Unfortunately for him, his "weirdness" became mainstream when artist like Rihanna and Beyonce began trying to get a piece of the pie. Then Ke$ha bursting onto the scene and trying to be a trashier version of Gaga.
This didn't sit well with Sir Gaga. In his constant need to be different, he changed his style on the fame monster to a darker sound. In an attempt to be deep & interesting, Rihanna tried going darker with Rated R, under the guise of "I'm a hurt and physically abused minority, please feel sorry for me as I dance in a black and white video". Then Katy Perry began changing her image completely to fit in and not be the one hit wonder she was always destined to be.
Poor Gaga was too much of a trend setter for her own good. She wanted to be different, but every time she put herself out there, she made her difference mainstream. So she decided to ga back in time with BTW. Copy Madonna, TLC and Cher since no one really called her out on the Ace of Base ripoffs from her previous albums. She even had to resort to ripping off her own songs. Suddenly the "different" Gaga became a copycat. It was sad times. Everything she started doing was so ridiculously out there and such a dramatic change from who she was just two years before that it all felt inauthentic. And it was.
People wanted the real Lady Gaga. Who he was when he was performing in bar parking lots in NYC. But instead, he opted to give them a character. After another two years everyone had abandoned him and he had to downsize his tour to play at summer festivals and malls. In 2014, MTV had him back on at the VMAs for the 5th anniversary of his critically acclaimed 'Paparazzi' performance. It was there, in the year 2014, that lady Gaga reanacted that performance, where the plot is him being killed by fame. But this time, he made sure the blood was real. The wound in his chest was real. He was unstable and couldn't take the pressure of fame anymore. He was a sad person, beaten up by drug abuse and lupus.
His lifeless body hung above the stage as the dancers kept the show going. Blood dripping from his eyes. Just another victim of fame and the press and the paparazzi. He died a martyr. RIP Lady Gaga's career.
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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Originally posted by DejaVu
Honestly, when Gaga came out he was successful because he was a breath of fresh air on the music scene. He was different, but it seemed natural and he wasn't trying to be anything other than who he was as an artist. Unfortunately for him, his "weirdness" became mainstream when artist like Rihanna and Beyonce began trying to get a piece of the pie. Then Ke$ha bursting onto the scene and trying to be a trashier version of Gaga.
This didn't sit well with Sir Gaga. In his constant need to be different, he changed his style on the fame monster to a darker sound. In an attempt to be deep & interesting, Rihanna tried going darker with Rated R, under the guise of "I'm a hurt and physically abused minority, please feel sorry for me as I dance in a black and white video". Then Katy Perry began changing her image completely to fit in and not be the one hit wonder she was always destined to be.
Poor Gaga was too much of a trend setter for her own good. She wanted to be different, but every time she put herself out there, she made her difference mainstream. So she decided to ga back in time with BTW. Copy Madonna, TLC and Cher since no one really called her out on the Ace of Base ripoffs from her previous albums. She even had to resort to ripping off her own songs. Suddenly the "different" Gaga became a copycat. It was sad times. Everything she started doing was so ridiculously out there and such a dramatic change from who she was just two years before that it all felt inauthentic. And it was.
People wanted the real Lady Gaga. Who he was when he was performing in bar parking lots in NYC. But instead, he opted to give them a character. After another two years everyone had abandoned him and he had to downsize his tour to play at summer festivals and malls. In 2014, MTV had him back on at the VMAs for the 5th anniversary of his critically acclaimed 'Paparazzi' performance. It was there, in the year 2014, that lady Gaga reanacted that performance, where the plot is him being killed by fame. But this time, he made sure the blood was real. The wound in his chest was real. He was unstable and couldn't take the pressure of fame anymore. He was a sad person, beaten up by drug abuse and lupus.
His lifeless body hung above the stage as the dancers kept the show going. Blood dripping from his eyes. Just another victim of fame and the press and the paparazzi. He died a martyr. RIP Lady Gaga's career.
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Member Since: 9/4/2011
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No. She's doing better than ever in sales and charting. Her songs and albums remain to sell and chart well and she continues to reign.
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Member Since: 6/20/2011
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well I love the album... definitely one of the top 10 albums I've heard this year... but the whole Judas thing was kind of messy. and I think she went too weird with BTW video. and TEOG vid was just disappointing. and then releasing a sort-of ballad... I thnik she just made all the wrong choices. but I respect that she has a vision and followed it.
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Member Since: 5/27/2010
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
I was thinking about that today, particularly when I saw the tumblr collage of her promo schedule. Her fashion has gotten too detailed. It's very intricate and elegant and interesting, but it's not memorable. To be memorable it would have to be simple and it would need a single focal point. Pretty much all of the BTW outfits have multiple elements begging for your attention. It's not an improvement.
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I don't disagree with this. Like, I really never liked the yellow wig/latex dress combo, but it did become an indelible image by the time the era was over, I think.
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Member Since: 6/15/2011
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Originally posted by DejaVu
Honestly, when Gaga came out he was successful because he was a breath of fresh air on the music scene. He was different, but it seemed natural and he wasn't trying to be anything other than who he was as an artist. Unfortunately for him, his "weirdness" became mainstream when artist like Rihanna and Beyonce began trying to get a piece of the pie. Then Ke$ha bursting onto the scene and trying to be a trashier version of Gaga.
This didn't sit well with Sir Gaga. In his constant need to be different, he changed his style on the fame monster to a darker sound. In an attempt to be deep & interesting, Rihanna tried going darker with Rated R, under the guise of "I'm a hurt and physically abused minority, please feel sorry for me as I dance in a black and white video". Then Katy Perry began changing her image completely to fit in and not be the one hit wonder she was always destined to be.
Poor Gaga was too much of a trend setter for her own good. She wanted to be different, but every time she put herself out there, she made her difference mainstream. So she decided to ga back in time with BTW. Copy Madonna, TLC and Cher since no one really called her out on the Ace of Base ripoffs from her previous albums. She even had to resort to ripping off her own songs. Suddenly the "different" Gaga became a copycat. It was sad times. Everything she started doing was so ridiculously out there and such a dramatic change from who she was just two years before that it all felt inauthentic. And it was.
People wanted the real Lady Gaga. Who he was when he was performing in bar parking lots in NYC. But instead, he opted to give them a character. After another two years everyone had abandoned him and he had to downsize his tour to play at summer festivals and malls. In 2014, MTV had him back on at the VMAs for the 5th anniversary of his critically acclaimed 'Paparazzi' performance. It was there, in the year 2014, that lady Gaga reanacted that performance, where the plot is him being killed by fame. But this time, he made sure the blood was real. The wound in his chest was real. He was unstable and couldn't take the pressure of fame anymore. He was a sad person, beaten up by drug abuse and lupus.
His lifeless body hung above the stage as the dancers kept the show going. Blood dripping from his eyes. Just another victim of fame and the press and the paparazzi. He died a martyr. RIP Lady Gaga's career.
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Lemme see everyone in miserable when the era starts all over again when Scheisse comes out
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Member Since: 8/18/2011
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Originally posted by duybeeGAshantiGA
Lemme see everyone in miserable when the era starts all over again when Scheisse comes out
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I don't think that will happen tbh. She seems to love more MTN, Hair, and HML than Scheisse. And we know that she likes to release the songs that she (and not necessarily her fans) loves.
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Member Since: 6/15/2011
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^ Thats so over really... I bet if after releasing U and I, she still doesntt want to release Scheisse or MTN.. her true fans cant be tested this time, they will all be gone... seriously she needs to care a bit about what her fans really like now. And if Scheisse wont be a single this time, MTN will be, then after that Scheisse should be the 6th single. **** is simply the most commercial song on the album. And its not even bad.
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Member Since: 8/18/2011
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Originally posted by duybeeGAshantiGA
^ Thats so over really... I bet if after releasing U and I, she still doesntt want to release Scheisse or MTN.. her true fans cant be tested this time, they will all be gone... seriously she needs to care a bit about what her fans really like now. And if Scheisse wont be a single this time, MTN will be, then after that Scheisse should be the 6th single. **** is simply the most commercial song on the album. And its not even bad.
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Sorry, but imo Scheisse needs a radio edit to remove that German gibberish from the beginning.
And Hair and MTN are more commercial imho. The only problem with Hair is that it was already a promotional single, so many people might already know it by now.
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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I don't even know if I want her to release Scheisse now. I'm afraid she'll ruin the video
Gaga needs to bring back that raw element she had back during her previous eras. She's always inspired, but I feel as though her ideas are poorly executed as of late. Which is too bad. You have to admire her dedication + hard work, but her control is taking a toll (IMO) on her work. Just doesn't appear as 'natural' as before, and sometimes seems forced.
Well, I hope Gaga does something grand. If her next album is any better, Born This Way will get slept on..which is a shame because I do think it is her best album - just not her best era.
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Member Since: 6/16/2009
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Originally posted by -Lewymocha-
Gurl.... it's as over as the Goodbye Lullaby era
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umm she has sold over 5 million albums worldwide, the biggest one week opening of the year, 1.7 in the united states, so dont be comparing AVRIL's FLOPERA to this masterpiece.
Yes she hasnt sold as much as expected but c'mon after a whole year and 5 multiplatinum singles not even Katy can sell as much, sorry boo boo
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