How do you know he's close-minded? Did you prejudge him without having a conversation with him? That **** is not cute boo.
He is. He already dismissed the arguement by avoiding further discussion so I was trying to hold a conversation. He's saying the song is urban influenced just because it has rap? Please rap is also used in Rock, Pop, R&B, heck and even Country from time to time. Doesn't make the paticular songs urban-ish.
He is. He already dismissed the arguement by avoiding further discussion so I was trying to hold a conversation. He's saying the song is urban influenced just because it has rap? Please rap is also used in Rock, Pop, R&B, heck and even Country from time to time. Doesn't make the paticular songs urban-ish.
I dismissed the argument because I don't want to have to get banned for cursing you out, and if I choose not to respond, that is my choice. #BOOP
Top 40 radio is certainly becoming very formulaic, but honestly, I think that may have more to do with piracy than anything else. Companies and their artists are encouraged to churn our formulaic hits that are guaranteed to make money for the company in a sales climate that is struggling, to say the least.
As a whole, though, there is plenty of great stuff happening in music. I don't really think you have to look any further than the huge new turns sub-genres like dubstep are taking in recent years to appreciate that there is some musical diversity and evolution still going on. You may not like a lot of the new breeds of electronic music, but a lot of artists are really taking these sub-genres to new heights and fusing them with other types of music.
I don't think it's an easy task to look at the current state of music and decide whether it's better, worse, more inventive, less inventive or even comparable to what has been done in the past. These types of things seem easier to analyze when they're years in the past and you can see how different trends developed. While pop radio may be morphing into formulaic turf in some sense, I think there is a lot of great stuff coming and you just have to be open to new sounds that may not be accepted at first.
I dismissed the argument because I don't want to have to get banned for cursing you out, and if I choose not to respond, that is my choice. #BOOP
I believe that I was answering the mod.
What does it matter now? You're already showing your a**. Respond with an answer to the IGF debate then, not get all NHB in here because it's not about me. So . Guess that's one smart choice to shut your trap.
And I don't even listen to the radio anymore. Haven't in years. I hook my MP3 player up to my car and get life.
+1
I gave up on radio a while back.
I love dance-pop as much as the next person, but I want a little variety. I want there to be different genres to listen to, new artists to get into that actually bring in something different. I want BALLADS to actually have a shot at success again.
I'm ready for an epic ballad to dominate pop radio again... something fresh. Someone needs to change it up, its all becoming quite momentous and boring.
If Adele's management get up off of their asses and release "Someone Like You" in the US, you just might get that epic ballad.
It's already been touched on in here, but if you look beyond the top 40, there's plenty of diversity. It just so happens that top 40 radio has never lacked diversity as much as it does now, and that's a shame.
I. HATE. THAT. ARGUMENT!!! Whenever people want to get loud about a song being "boring" because it is slow, or because it is a ballad, i flip a ****. If the singing is strong, the lyrics are good, and the production is tight...I can be much more excited about a ballad than dance music. So much so that I usually listen to slower, ballady music when I need something to keep me awake on late night drives. There is just no ****ing recognition of talent with some people
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Christina Perri isn't following her footsteps. Adele isn't. Bruno isn't. There are several others.
The problem with artists releasing ballads or something remotely different from the norm is that some people try to dismiss the music as "boring" or question why the music is successful because they are so used to the dance-pop sound that GaGa, Ke$ha and the like are popular for. Then this whole dumb argument about what's "real" music starts.
It's funny how many posters in this same thread say they are annoyed by the lack of diversity on the charts. But each time there is a song released that is good enough for them not to understand why it is good, they use the same "The song is boring" or "The song is so bland".
Fortunately in France, music is a lot more diverse. And we don't have that many radio's stations but the sall number of them gave us different kind of music. The only radio's stations where you heard the same songs over and over again are the ones that essentially diffuse pop and RnB music. I think it might even be worse than in the US(Sky Rock and Nrj ).
'Mainstream' music has become less diverse...the only music that seems to do well these days is dance-pop (with the occasional pop-sounding Hip-Hop song).
I don't know how people can listen to 'Top 40' radio in the US....it seems as if they just play the same few songs over and over, with very little diversity. With a few exceptions, they seem to only play dance-pop songs. It is difficult to get an Urban crossover hit, whereas in the past it wouldn't be so difficult. Top 40 stations only seem to want to play dance-pop songs, which is a shame.
I don't know about you guys, but there's a contemporary radio station here that plays everything from Diana Ross to Ke$ha and I really enjoy listening to it.
I just wish that #1s didn't always go to a few certain artists - I mean, if it's not Rihanna, it's Katy. If not her, it's Bruno or Gaga or Beyoncé. And that's okay...but what ever happened to one hit wonders?
You should really change the title to "Has mainstream music lost its diversity?"
Top 40 and mainstream music definitely has, and you can see this because recently this kind of music has started forming a basis from OTHER, less mainstream genres (Dance, Rock, Rap, Metal). These have influenced both the structure and sound and evidently we have gone through "trends" in the general mainstream sound.
Back in 2000-2004, MAINSTREAM music was much more varied. On the radio there was never a clear style, one song would be very R&B, the next pure pop. Years later (2006-2007), mainstream music was definitely more urban. Songs like Umbrella and SexyBack sound SO entirely different to that of 2010. Taking a look at the Billboard Top 100 songs of each year says it all really. Only has it been it 2011 that we've SLIGHTLY started to move away from these generic synth sounding tunes, and we're now taking influence from other genres.
Whether this is a bad thing, too soon to say. Surely there must come a point where our influence is no more because we've gone through each genre and tweaked it to sound mainstream. Interesting discussion though
You should really change the title to "Has mainstream music lost its diversity?"
Top 40 and mainstream music definitely has, and you can see this because recently this kind of music has started forming a basis from OTHER, less mainstream genres (Dance, Rock, Rap, Metal). These have influenced both the structure and sound and evidently we have gone through "trends" in the general mainstream sound.
Back in 2000-2004, MAINSTREAM music was much more varied. On the radio there was never a clear style, one song would be very R&B, the next pure pop. Years later (2006-2007), mainstream music was definitely more urban. Songs like Umbrella and SexyBack sound SO entirely different to that of 2010. Taking a look at the Billboard Top 100 songs of each year says it all really. Only has it been it 2011 that we've SLIGHTLY started to move away from these generic synth sounding tunes, and we're now taking influence from other genres.
Whether this is a bad thing, too soon to say. Surely there must come a point where our influence is no more because we've gone through each genre and tweaked it to sound mainstream. Interesting discussion though
Good idea..I fixed it! And yeah I have been quite happy that everyone has more or less agreed with my point that mainstream success has become limited to one specific sound across every "genre." I was half expecting people to run in and claim every song their fave has ever put out to be different and interesting and diverse lol
I do believe that things are going to change soon, and I think rock/blues and R&B are going to start taking the reins. I think overall what people are starting to respond to again is the live instrumentation aspect of music and not having everything so dancey and overproduced. I really wish GaGa had gone the route of doing more rock music and not infusing rock and electronic music as much as she did....she could have helped lead the pack. It sounds like maybe Beyonce has done this a good amount on 4...which I am excited about.
Pop music was never THAT diverse...the best songs from each pop "era" are remembered and all the others ones are tossed aside. That's why each generation SWEARS that music "back in my day" was the best. The music you grew up with you often tend to like...When they get older, younger kids may look back at THIS period as the "golden years" in pop music..It's all very repetitive lol