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Poll: Are you for or against the Burqa?
View Poll Results: Burqa or Bur-no?
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Ban it.
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68.72% |
Don't ban it.
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23.22% |
I don't know.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
Posts: 16,691
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Originally posted by Glamorous
Ban it.
As an exmuslim, ban it. I refuse to let liberal Islam apologists call this misogynistic and disgusting garment a 'choice'.
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Interesting.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 856
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Not a fan of it at all, I can get the security reasons but eh...
I live in the only district in the country where Arabs are a majority and I've never seen anyone wearing a burqa in real life (closest to it was a girl who had some alternative version of a niqab using a hijab + scarf to cover her mouth and nose but w/e), guess it's more a cultural thing rather than religious.
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Member Since: 9/3/2011
Posts: 14,867
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Originally posted by KareBear
Someone explain why women are forced into modesty. And why mostly women are hiding their bodies and the men aren't? Then explain how it isnt sexist. I'll wait.
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Can't say I'm surprised no-one fancied tackling questions KareBear has posed in this thread.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
Posts: 4,003
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Member Since: 4/10/2012
Posts: 14,915
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Masks scare me. That woman's eyes peeking through in the OP creeps me out.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 15,921
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Originally posted by Chanel4
Many women are forced to wear it. I think its sexist and i come from a Muslim family so skip the sjw tumblr trash talk. I know what the culture is all about and it's mostly sexist in MANY ways. I also think it's dangerous towards society if we all went around hiding our identities. Like... Wear a hijab but never the whole face?! That's just weird and inhumane.
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finally someone said it
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 10,242
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Ban it for two reasons.
1. It's a safety and security issue, just like any sort of face covering in public.
2. To me, it seems to be oppressive than free.
I'm completely fine with head coverings that don't cover the face, but niqabs and burqas are too much.
Burkinis are also fine, as they don't cover the face. The name is a misnomer and a pun.
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Member Since: 2/5/2014
Posts: 3,051
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Ban it until the world changes. Ban it until it's not only used by religious extremists (yes I say anyone wearing it is extreme).
Ban it until the Middle East changes. Ban it for women. Ban it for etc etc etc
It literally helps spread Islamic extremism and terrorism
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 15,921
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those who defend burqa by their logic of arguments also don't have any problem with this too:
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
Posts: 2,555
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Originally posted by AvrilLaQueen
how can you defend an ideology that bashes LGBT people and women, the same group of people you come in to other threads and bash how awful and evil Western society is
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The Catholic Church has millions of dead LGBT folks' blood on their hands along with the pain and suffering of millions of women. Who is defending any evil ideology by pointing this out?
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Member Since: 9/4/2008
Posts: 11,720
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Originally posted by Daydream
This. Of course it's wrong for women to be forced to wear it, and I'm not for that at all. But, you guys fail to realise that there are women who WANT to wear it, who feel COMFORTABLE wearing it, and would RATHER wear it.
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Yes, and not to mention that banning clothing items is a slippery slope.
It's a free country and you should be able to wear whatever you want. Whether it's burqa, jeans, skirt, gown or a freaking clown suit.
In Germany and other western countries, women who are forced by their husbands to wear it have the legal system to protect them. So, at the end of the day, it is their own choice to stay wearing the burqa.
It would be great if muslim countries also had the same laws allowing women to choose whether they want to wear it or not, though. But that's not what this is about. This is about banning it in a country where wearing one is a CHOICE (Germany). It's wrong and islamophobic.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Communion
The Catholic Church has millions of dead LGBT folks' blood on their hands along with the pain and suffering of millions of women. Who is defending any evil ideology by pointing this out?
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when did the church kill gays tho?
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Originally posted by Communion
The Catholic Church has millions of dead LGBT folks' blood on their hands along with the pain and suffering of millions of women. Who is defending any evil ideology by pointing this out?
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The Catholic Church is not currently cutting their heads off, hanging them in the middle of town for display, or sealing their a**hol*s shut and feeding them / us poison are they? Lot of y'all are so blinded/near sighted can't see ****.
I swear
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Communion
The Catholic Church has millions of dead LGBT folks' blood on their hands along with the pain and suffering of millions of women. Who is defending any evil ideology by pointing this out?
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I always criticize religion so your arguments makes no point against me. And secondly how many christian majority countries kill gay people for being gay versus muslim majority? Christians have progressed since their history alongside with some other cultures, while muslim majority in middle east and Africa have not.
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Member Since: 2/5/2014
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Originally posted by Pop
Yes, and not to mention that banning clothing items is a slippery slope.
It's a free country and you should be able to wear whatever you want. Whether it's burqa, jeans, skirt, gown or a freaking clown suit.
In Germany and other western countries, women who are forced by their husbands to wear it have the legal system to protect them. So, at the end of the day, it is their own choice to stay wearing the burqa.
It would be great if muslim countries also had the same laws allowing women to choose whether they want to wear it or not, though. But that's not what this is about. This is about banning it in a country where wearing one is a CHOICE (Germany). It's wrong and islamophobic.
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Until Muslims fix all the problems that burqa's bring, they should be banned. It's not islamaphobic, their religion/culture is gross. Until they learn to change it to where it's not ****/oppressive/dangerous it should be banned. I'm all for freedom, but I'm not for EU becoming a wasteland
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 9,012
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Against tbh
It's just really scary to me
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Member Since: 9/4/2008
Posts: 11,720
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Originally posted by LordMombi
Until Muslims fix all the problems that burqa's bring, they should be banned. It's not islamaphobic, their religion/culture is gross. Until they learn to change it to where it's not ****/oppressive/dangerous it should be banned. I'm all for freedom, but I'm not for EU becoming a wasteland
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How is EU becoming a wasteland because of what people choose to wear? If the woman doesn't want to wear a burqa in Germany, she can simply take it off and leave her husband. If he has a problem, she can report him to the police. Hardly a wasteland.
How would you feel if somebody told your mother that she is suddenly forced to go everywhere in a skimpy bikini? I'm guessing you wouldn't be happy about that.
As an atheist living in a catholic country, I know what it's like being silenced. It's not a good feeling. Don't do that to others, please. It won't solve anything.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Jicky
when did the church kill gays tho?
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They have literally burnt gay people alive throughout their history and STILL IN 2016 condemn being attracted to the same gender as a sin .
You don't think there's a correlation to the fact that such a huge portion of your country follows Christianity or Catholicism according to the 2011 Census for Hungary, and that over HALF of your medical professionals think homosexuality is a DISEASE that needs to be cured through methods that are deadly?
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Originally posted by LordMombi
The Catholic Church is not currently cutting their heads off, hanging them in the middle of town for display, or sealing their a**hol*s shut and feeding them / us poison are they? Lot of y'all are so blinded/near sighted can't see ****.
I swear
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Your precious "progressive" Pope is having anti-LGBT, homophobic literature passed throughout South America and indoctrinating people into the belief being gay is unnatural. Anyone who is blind is anyone who thinks Catholicism or Christianity is fine and Islam isn't. Hate religion, but you're just a racist if you're going to hate only Islam. As long as the Catholic Church exists, LGBT and women will suffer. Don't be a hypocrite. A woman cannot choose to be a nun. Vows of chastity? Being below a man since women can only be nuns? What a barbaric, hateful, and sexist religion. We must ban the practice of nuns and ban women from wearing the habit.
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Originally posted by AvrilLaQueen
I always criticize religion so your arguments makes no point against me. And secondly how many christian majority countries kill gay people for being gay versus muslim majority? Christians have progressed since their history alongside with some other cultures, while muslim majority in middle east and Africa have not.
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Some of the most homophobic countries in Africa are Christian. The law to criminalize homosexuality and make it punishable by death in Uganda was pushed for and supported by US Evangelists.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Communion
They have literally burnt gay people alive throughout their history and STILL IN 2016 condemn being attracted to the same gender as a sin .
You don't think there's a correlation to the fact that such a huge portion of your country follows Christianity or Catholicism according to the 2011 Census for Hungary, and that over HALF of your medical professionals think homosexuality is a DISEASE that needs to be cured through methods that are deadly?
Your precious "progressive" Pope is having anti-LGBT, homophobic literature passed throughout South America and indoctrinating people into the belief being gay is unnatural. Anyone who is blind is anyone who thinks Catholicism or Christianity is fine and Islam isn't. Hate religion, but you're just a racist if you're going to hate only Islam. As long as the Catholic Church exists, LGBT and women will suffer. Don't be a hypocrite. A woman cannot choose to be a nun. Vows of chastity? Being below a man since women can only be nuns? What a barbaric, hateful, and sexist religion. We must ban the practice of nuns and ban women from wearing the habit.
Some of the most homophobic countries in Africa are Christian. The law to criminalize homosexuality and make it punishable by death in Uganda was pushed for and supported by US Evangelists.
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Gosh maybe you should not only read the pink news, that study I checked, had no stats in it only some statements from random health care professionals. And the exact statement you referring to wrongly and out of context was the following:
"Council of Europe Recommendation 2010(5) states that appropriate measures should be taken to avoid the classication of homosexuality as an illness. However, healthcare professional interviewed in countries such as Bulgaria, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Poland, Romania and Slovakia spoke of ‘catching’ homosexuality. In ROMANIA, half of the professionals interviewed viewed homosexuality as a disorder."
I am not saying we don't have issues with homophobia (we in Europe and especially Hungary are far from that) but you can't really compare what's happening to gays NOW! in the Arab world and our situation in Hungary.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I'm not against it if the person who wears it isn't either.
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