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Discussion: Will Katy outlast Rihanna?
Member Since: 3/21/2012
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Originally posted by TKO
This.
I love both, but Katy can't release albums every year because she writes her songs.
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Maybe is she stops writing her own music she will win a Grammy
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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No.
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Member Since: 3/21/2012
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
I hope you mean in Europe or something because sorry, Rihanna ain't all that and a bag of chips here in America
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Ummm WFL , Umbrella .??
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Member Since: 9/1/2012
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Originally posted by NewRihannaStan
Maybe is she stops writing her own music she will win a Grammy
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Drag it.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I still think Katy her most remembered song WW is IKAG.
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Originally posted by NewRihannaStan
Writing songs about Peacocks is worth so much praise. I give it up for Katy truly an amazing writer ..
Call me when Katy writes a song as deep as Cold Case Love . Call me when a Katy single has as much impact and critical success of Umbrella. Call me when her tour gross exceeds 141 million call me when she gets a icon award call me when oprah interviews her call me when she gives a good enough live performance
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Not you listing Rihanna achievements after 7 albums.
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Member Since: 3/12/2012
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Originally posted by NewRihannaStan
Writing songs about Peacocks is worth so much praise. I give it up for Katy truly an amazing writer ..
Call me when Katy writes a song as deep as Cold Case Love . Call me when a Katy single has as much impact and critical success of Umbrella. Call me when her tour gross exceeds 141 million call me when she gets a icon award call me when oprah interviews her call me when she gives a good enough live performance
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Call you? I wouldn't even text you. You lack use of punctuation knowledge.
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Member Since: 8/7/2012
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
I hope you mean in Europe or something because sorry, Rihanna ain't all that and a bag of chips here in America
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yeah cause shes a total flop with those 13 #1s
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Member Since: 3/5/2012
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Originally posted by NewRihannaStan
Writing songs about Peacocks is worth so much praise. I give it up for Katy truly an amazing writer ..
Call me when Katy writes a song as deep as Cold Case Love . Call me when a Katy single has as much impact and critical success of Umbrella. Call me when her tour gross exceeds 141 million call me when she gets a icon award call me when oprah interviews her call me when she gives a good enough live performance
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WHY ARE YOU SO PRESSED, like seriously? Is Birthday Cake so much better than Peacock? Is Cold Case Love any deeper than Not Like The Movies and By The Grace Of God? Yeah, didn't think so. Get a life seriously
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Fred Perry
Saying that Katy is a laughable, untalented and embarrassing artist, only known for her looks is not an opinion. It's unnecessary and delusional hate.
Not liking her is an opinion and clearly you don't
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well im not the only one crtics seem to agree also.
She is NEVER on the years best list wheras ri is always
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Fanik
LOL who even said she was local ?
SHES just not as global as rihanna as lets not act as if Katy was bigger in the SA.. care to post receipts?
RIhanna is bigger in Asia, Europe, Africa and arguably in the US and Canada
Katy can have her Oceania where rih didnt promote since the Loud era
and katy's big hits like E.T. didnt do that well outside of the US...so do not come for rihannas global big hits
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You did.
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Originally posted by Fanik
WFL alone sold more than 10 M WW and yes Diamonds ..Diamonds is bigger than every Katy song ever in the Europe alone and global=/= local US success sorry
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And yass! Get those Madagascar sales Rih rih.
And no, I dont care about posting receipts. I'm not here to school you kid. Athough your redaction skills hurt my eyes. Please learn how to use a keyboard or grammar skills for that matter before you quote me again.
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Originally posted by Cupcake.
There's nothing that can prove that. You act as if what you say is a fact when it's only a biased statement that cannot be proved by yourself
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Oh but there are things that can prove it. I didn't want to come up with receipts but:
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With the record-breaking success of the single and the reported coincidence with the weather, Def Jam's marketing team collaborated with British umbrella manufacturer Totes. The company produced five types of Rihanna umbrellas, one of which was a two-tone satin umbrella that Rihanna debuted in public during her performance of the song at the 2007 MTV Movie Awards. Although manufactured by a UK-based company, the collection was made available only to US residents online through the company's website.
Krystal Weedon, one of the central characters in JK Rowling's The Casual Vacancy was very apt at doing Jay-Z's rap from Umbrella during their rowing competition bus trips. Umbrella, to the shock of the attendees, is also played at the church during the funeral service of Barry Fairbrother who used to coach the girls' rowing team prior to his death. Similarly, the song was also played at the funeral service of another character.
In November 2007 MADtv's Nicole Parker and Keegan-Michael Key, who were depicting U.S. Democratic presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama respectively, performed a parody of "Umbrella"
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It even has an legacy section on wikipedia, and the curse one. Look it up. Also the numerous covers that Umbrella had it's unbelievable.
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Then-upcoming singer Marié Digby recorded an acoustic version of "Umbrella" which was released August 3, 2007 as the debut single from her Hollywood Records Start Here EP and included as the closing track on Digby's debut album Unfold.[180] British rock group Biffy Clyro also released an acoustic version of the song, just like the Italian singer Neja has done in her cover – album Acousticlub, while Italian band Vanilla Sky went in the opposite direction and released a punk cover of the song while Norwegian band Bare Egil Band have made a doom metal version of the song. For her debut album a.K.a. Cassandra, Filipina singer and actress KC Concepcion covered the song in English, while singer Miss Ganda recorded a version in Filipino entitled "Payong" (means umbrella).Singer and actress Mandy Moore sang an acoustic version of the song in 2007 and its video on youtube has more than 5,700,000 views by November, 2012
Pop-punk outfit All Time Low covered the song for the Fearless Records compilation album Punk Goes Crunk, and British rock band Manic Street Preachers produced their own version of "Umbrella", which was originally recorded for the album NME Awards 2008. Produced in celebration of the Shockwaves NME Awards 2008 and Big Gig, that album was given free with a special souvenir box set of the magazine NME on February 27. Two additional versions (acoustic and Grand Slam mix) were later made available on iTunes, and the trio now comprise an Umbrella EP; a video for the cover is available on the band's official website.British pop rock band McFly performed their own version of "Umbrella" during their Greatest Hits So Far Tour in 2007, and Finnish melodic death metal band Children of Bodom performed their 2008 cover live at Wacken Open Air. Country-pop singer-songwriter Taylor Swift recorded a live version of the song, which was later included in an iTunes Store exclusive EP titled Live from SoHo – EP (2008). Her version of the song peaked at number seventy-nine on Billboard Pop 100.
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I mean, when a Katy Perry song will have this kind of impact in pop culture and not only, I will start consider some things.
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Originally posted by NewRihannaStan
Ummm WFL , Umbrella .??
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WFL, despite everyone on this site acting like it was the biggest hit of the century, has barely passed 5x platinum mark. Not to mention that her best selling single as a lead artist.
You can sit here and pull that "OMG IMPACT!!@!#@" ******** out of your ass, but truth is there is NO way to accurately measure impact. The only concrete thing we can go by is sales, and Katy has 4 singles above the 5x platinum mark, while Rihanna's biggest single just barely scraped it.
She is NOT as big in America as her fans claim. Diamonds did great worldwide, but didn't crack 4x platinum in the US. Her singles almost always stall at around 2-3 times platinum. When you consider she releases a new single every month, the fact is for her status as a "top" pop girl her single sales are not that great, especially when you consider she can't sell albums for ****.
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Member Since: 3/21/2012
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Originally posted by ToxicKat
Call you? I wouldn't even text you. You lack use of punctuation knowledge.
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Owe dragging my punctuation are we ... So I win
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by NewRihannaStan
Maybe is she stops writing her own music she will win a Grammy
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Congrats to Rih, her succesful collaborations.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by TKO
Dr. Luke only produced half or less of the songs included in OOTB and TD.
And Katy still writes her songs.
Try harder.
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Teenage Dream
Dr. Luke Benny Blanco Max Martin
Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.)
Dr. Luke Max Martin
California Gurls
Dr. Luke Benny Blanco Max Martin
The One That Got Away
Dr. Luke Max Martin
E.T.
Dr. Luke Ammo Max Martin
Roar
Dr. Luke Max Martin Cirkut
Unconditionally
Dr. Luke Max Martin Cirkut
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I wasn't talking about albums, Katy is after all a single-seller too. And all her singles since TD (except Firework) were mainly produced by Dr. Luke. But his production can only take you so far.
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Katy Perry will never be on Rihanna's level. Never. Yes maybe in US they are on par, but in terms of global success, music quality, relevance, impact (does Katy have any? -nope), Katy doesn't even have such song as Umbrella, Diamonds or WFL (although IKAG is maybe the closest), performance level, touring, social media and so on... She can not, and will not outlast her.
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Originally posted by NewRihannaStan
Writing songs about Peacocks is worth so much praise. I give it up for Katy truly an amazing writer ..
Call me when Katy writes a song as deep as Cold Case Love . Call me when a Katy single has as much impact and critical success of Umbrella. Call me when her tour gross exceeds 141 million call me when she gets a icon award call me when oprah interviews her call me when she gives a good enough live performance
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Okay, we got it, now stop.
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
I hope you mean in Europe or something because sorry, Rihanna ain't all that and a bag of chips here in America
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Ironic, since she got the first ever ICON award, at the American music awards. Now run along.
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Originally posted by EmRiNavy
Oh but there are things that can prove it. I didn't want to come up with receipts but:
It even has an legacy section on wikipedia, and the curse one. Look it up. Also the numerous covers that Umbrella had it's unbelievable.
I mean, when a Katy Perry song will have this kind of impact in pop culture and not only, I will start consider some things.
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There are several flop artists who had songs with more impact than Rihanna and Katy. Your point? This is about who is going to last longer not who has the hit with most impact.
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Member Since: 3/21/2012
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Originally posted by Fred Perry
WHY ARE YOU SO PRESSED, like seriously? Is Birthday Cake so much better than Peacock? Is Cold Case Love any deeper than Not Like The Movies and By The Grace Of God? Yeah, didn't think so. Get a life seriously
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I'm pressed but you are fonting in all caps.. Anything off Rated R runs deeper than anything on TD and Prism including Rude Boy
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