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Chart News: HDD: 375k for 'ARTPOP'
Member Since: 12/11/2008
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Still better than Britney, RiRi, Katy, Xtina, etc. Some of you sound so pressed. My gurls, take a nap and eat a pizza. Relax! That's actually a good number.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Not really. Katy will get more money in the end.
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nope cause gaga also gets production and more writing royalties then katy will ever get + gaga also have much more successful tours
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Member Since: 6/6/2011
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Originally posted by Rivington Reject
Katy doing only 287k coming from a smah era while Gaga is doing 375k coming from a "flop" era.
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Less than 100k more. Isn't Gaga supposed to be frontloaded? #poordat
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Prognosticators are divided on whether Perry’s album will surpass Eminem’s Recovery, which bowed at 754k, to become the year’s biggest debut. Doubters feel the release date is problematic in the sense that it falls at a time when Americans are traditionally preoccupied with end-of-summer and back-to-school activities, with mass entertainment far down their priority lists
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So, yeah. It wasn't predicted to sell 1 million copies, and prognosticators were divided on whether it would surpass Eminem's sales, which is basically what I said. And that whole article wasn't about Katy's first week sales.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by Duca
These numbers are fine. Doing +350k is solid. She could pull 400k if she does SNL next Saturday.
No, they expected +800k and wrote an essay about it.
POP’S GOLDEN GIRL
As It Turns Out, Katy Perry Is Far More Than Just a Pretty Face
Much has been written, here and elsewhere, about the brain trust surrounding Katy Perry, including EMI executives Greg Thompson and Angelica Cob Baehler; the management team of Martin Kirkup, Steve Jensen and Bradford Cobb; recently departed A&R man Chris Anokute; and writer/producers Dr. Luke and Max Martin. What hasn’t been widely discussed is that Perry is a fiercely intelligent young artist who is firmly in control of every aspect of her career, from her music—in which she plays a primary songwriting role, decides who she collaborates with and who produces—to her carefully calibrated imaging. In terms of doing things her own way, it’s hard to imagine any other pop diva going out on the Warped Tour, as Perry did in 2008. Thus far, her decision-making has been virtually flawless, resulting in wall-to-wall media visibility and massive anticipation for Teenage Dream, streeting Aug. 24 on Capitol/EMI. Meanwhile, the just-released title track poised to follow “California Gurls” (which hit 3m this week) to the top of the sales and airplay charts. Prognosticators are divided on whether Perry’s album will surpass Eminem’s Recovery, which bowed at 754k, to become the year’s biggest debut. Doubters feel the release date is problematic in the sense that it falls at a time when Americans are traditionally preoccupied with end-of-summer and back-to-school activities, with mass entertainment far down their priority lists… Not surprisingly, Perry’s current contract is being renegotiated, with respected attorney Jay Cooper in the process of doing a mega-deal for her… While Roger Faxon’s new business plan for EMI hadn’t been made public by presstime, insiders say that the new boss has dissolved the infamous “bucket” system instituted early in the Guy Hands era, which incomprehensibly separated A&R, "music services" (marketing/sales/operations) and “support services” (finance/legal & business affairs) into their own fiefdoms. His spin, like that of every other new CEO in music business annals, is that “it’s all about the artist.”... Faxon’s elevation to overall chief of the company coincides with the heating up of EMI U.K., which had five of the British Top 10 albums last week, four of them from homegrown artists, including a pair of debuts, in an impressive display of artist development. This timely spate of hits puts some much-needed points on the board for A&R chief Nick Gatfield, who has long been rumored to be frustrated by the lack of stable leadership at the company… Word from inside Vevo is that there are merely “one or two outstanding points” to settle in the negotiations with MTV, which were reportedly contentious at the outset. The Rio Caraeff-led company has already completed licensing deals with AOL and CBS Interactive and is in the process of signing one with Yahoo, with another half dozen on deck. The same sources add that when Vevo partner Sony Music’s online deal with MTV.com runs out, the company will insist that the network use the branded Vevo player on all its online platforms as well. It now appears that MTV will agree to the use of the Vevo player, and that the lone remaining issue has to do with which company will control the advertising and content on the watch page... The entire music industry is fervently hoping that the Google Music Store launches before the end of the year, pointing to the increasingly bullying tactics of the powers behind iTunes. Wonderers are wondering how iTunes will react to Arcade Fire’s decision to allow Amazon MP3 to sell the band’s Aug. 3 release The Suburbs (Merge) at $3.99 for four days, with some expecting the album to be virtually invisible on the iTunes welcome page next week… What longtime inseparable label dynamic duo is in the midst of facing the music for the collective red ink being spilled under their watch? Insiders say this one is a classic case of the party being over… The recent Internet chatter about legendary record man Bob Krasnow (whom his biz buddies had nicknamed Ernie after Phil Silvers’ irrepressible title character in the ’50s sitcom Sgt. Bilko) has old-timers recalling the HQ of his Blue Thumb label on Canon Dr. in Beverly Hills. Krasnow’s office had formerly been a barbershop, and he’d retained the swiveling leather chairs, along with an apothecary cabinet, each drawer of which he’d filled with a specific mind-altering substance, including mescaline, peyote, Thai stick, hash, Colombian marching powder and several different forms of acid. Those were the days… In a more recent historical note, Bill McGathy, who became the most important Active Rock indie radio promoter in the pre-Eliot Spitzer era, has successfully reinvented himself as a manager, while contemporaries like Jeff McClusky and Lenny Lyons have all but vanished from the game. McGathy’s In De Goot Entertainment, which he launched, with great foresight, back in 1993, has turned into one of the premiere hard-rock management firms in the country. His client roster now includes a solid mix of veteran acts such as Chevelle, Shinedown, Saliva, Puddle of Mudd, Sevendust and Theory of a Deadman, along with promising major label newcomers like Island’s Neon Trees and Capitol’s Adelita’s Way, as well as in-demand rock producers Steven Haigler and Mike Watts, among others… Names in the Rumor Mill: Andria Vidler, Judy McGrath, Scott Rodger, Kanye West, Mo Ostin, Darryl Eaton, Robert Kondrk and Rick Rubin.
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Only that part is actually about her... stop trying to make it look worse than it really is. You even put the part where they said "people are divided" in bold...
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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The fact that Gaga declined with 60% (but of course let's use the 99c thing when It works for us, and Ignore It when It works best for us) and still selling more than Katy's biggest week ever, and the cats have the nerve to come here and say KARMA is a bitch ?
And let's not drag so fast, when the real predictions aren't In, let alone the real numbers ... You realize that the last time Gaga was on TV In America was September ? she has the next week to slay USA and I really hope her numbers will go 400k+ which is great, considering It will be the 3rd biggest week for a woman In the Digital age. . .
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Remember when the monsters were laughing at Katy for making her preorder bonus count for only the first 300k copies, because the ARTPOP foil was going to be in the first 500k copies?
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Member Since: 10/29/2010
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Originally posted by Duca
ARTIST STREET DEBUT RTD
TAYLOR SWIFT 9/12 1.2m 3.8m
LADY GAGA 5/11 1.1m* 2.3m
MADONNA 4/12 359k 553k
ADELE 3/11 353k 10.8m
BEYONCÉ 7/11 313k 1.3m
KATY PERRY 10/13 287k --
P!NK 9/12 280k 1.8m
MILEY CYRUS 10/13 270k 386k
CARRIE UNDERWOOD 5/12 267k 1.5m
NICKI MINAJ 4/12 253k 869k
RIHANNA 9/12 237k 1.1m
*Sold for 99 cents at Amazon on Tuesday and Thursday of release week.
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Interesting. Bey her flop album and it's almost 1.4M.
Hopefully Gaga is able to break 400k. Seems a bit early for predictions, we should wait on the predictions based on 1-Day sales. However, HDD is usually spot on, so let me not question them.
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Member Since: 6/7/2010
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Originally posted by MrCookiepants
Clearly it isn't when she can drop 66% and still outsell Katy Perry by ~100k.
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But Gaga is an Album Artist, why are you comparing her to a Singles Artist? You should be comparing her to Drake, Eminem and Taylor Swift.
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Member Since: 5/28/2012
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I'm sure she will do more.
And oh at "4" selling 313K, I always though she debuted with 310K
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by HausOfCarlos
nope cause gaga also gets production and more writing royalties then katy will ever get + gaga also have much more successful tours
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Gaga had plenty of co-writers and she has more featured artists. Any other measure will be offset by the fact Katy will sell more albums. My post was in reference to album sales, so tours isn't that relevant.
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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These predictions are usually way off, aren't they?
I'm waiting until we get official figures.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by Bribe
So Born This Way only sold 600k in it's first week but then you use 1.1 mil to calculate the % drop?
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Originally posted by Rockyalen
The hypocrisy lol...
When the question is about past biggest opening weeks: Noo, BTW sold 600k (lol), there was an Amazon deal.
When counting the % of the drop: 375000/1108000*100
At least be consistent, please.
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Not monsters coming for Chrďs., one of the oldest monsters on the site
Anyway... These are pretty good numbers, but disappointing. I bear in mind that they are predictions though.
Monsters: take the shade. After what people said about Prism, the KatyCats have EVERY RIGHT to have a go. These numbers are more disappointing for Gaga than 286k was for Katy. Realistically, no-one should have made negative comments about Katy until there were numbers available for Gaga for comparison
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Member Since: 6/24/2012
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Originally posted by romonster
As usual the Kats are perched in here trying to come for Gaga
Keep 'em pressed Gags!
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Let's not pretend like Monters were not in Katy's first week sales thread a few days ago dragging her for debuting with less than 300,000.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Watch it actually sell less than PRISM.
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Album sales are so abysmal. Eventually it'll get a point where 100k is impressive.
I miss CDs
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Member Since: 10/29/2010
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Watch it actually sell less than PRISM.
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The board will be a MESS.
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And HDD is wrong for the Amazon 99 cents shade.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
Not monsters coming for Chrďs., one of the oldest monsters on the site
Anyway... These are pretty good numbers, but disappointing. I bear in mind that they are predictions though.
Monsters: take the shade. After what people said about Prism, the KatyCats have EVERY RIGHT to have a go. These numbers are more disappointing for Gaga than 286k was for Katy. Realistically, no-one should have made negative comments about Katy until there were numbers available for Gaga for comparison
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Member Since: 2/16/2012
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Originally posted by chris1991
Oh so now the Monsters want to acknowledge the discount?
The hypocrisy is real.
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And you clearly didn't get what he was trying to say.
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Member Since: 12/16/2008
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Originally posted by Rivington Reject
Seems about right.
Welp and the Katy stans getting cocky when Gaga didn't need a Roar-sized hit to do better than Prism. And I don't know where these Britney stans are coming from when Britney Jean won't even pull in HALF of these figures.
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Well considering she's on her 8th album, she's not promoting and her first single flopped... you'll be delusional to expect her to do big number
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