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Discussion: Is Pop Music Empty?
Member Since: 12/1/2011
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Originally posted by Clump
Someone clearly wants to.
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Member Since: 8/26/2011
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Originally posted by Mr.Marvelous
Maybe not Beyoncé, but the other one..
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That other one can find success without generic songs .. But it seems that we'll have some in the next album.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Not really. This board thinks 4 is a POP album and Bey's exclusively a pop star. A lot of them do not know what R&B music sounds like.
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Damn shame.
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Member Since: 7/2/2011
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Originally posted by satellites™
Rated R gets too much and we all know why, she has not made her personal album yet and that's fine because she is still young. Have you even looked over the tracklist for Rated R and thought about it since the release, or do you just say its good because other people say it is?
Worthy of praise:
6. Russian Roulette
7. Fire Bomb
11. Te Amo
Regular Rihanna:
1. Mad House
2. Wait Your Turn
3. Hard featuring Jeezy
4. Stupid In Love
5. ROCKSTAR 101 featuring Slash
8. Rude Boy
9. Photographs featuring will.i.am
10. G4L
12. Cold Case Love
13. The Last Song
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Cold Case Love & The Last Song are not regular Rihanna songs.
& I can do the same with 4.
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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Originally posted by satellites™
And that's fine because upbeat/pop albums CAN be great too, no one said they were all generic.  |
Exactly. There's nothing wrong with pop/upbeat music. Music can be critically acclaimed AND connect with the masses at the same time. Is it too much to want that from our faves? 
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Member Since: 12/1/2011
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Not really. This board thinks 4 is a POP album and Bey's exclusively a pop star. A lot of them do not know what R&B music sounds like.
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4 is a pop and r&b crossover lol
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
It was at the time... It was.
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I dont agree, because if songs like Rude Boy, Hard or Gangster 4 Life are as personal as it gets for Rihanna then she has a lot more to learn about herself and life in general. She will release a personal album when she gets ready to and Rated R was not it.
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Member Since: 11/10/2011
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Originally posted by DejaVu
I agree. I spit out my tea when I read her name in the article.
Born This Way is a terrible example of "good" pop music. Whether "inspired" or generic. I think most of us can agree on that, regardless of what side we're on.
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I find it so silly to read how some of her fans talk about Lady Gaga's music as if it's somehow revolutionary and "better" than Britney, Katy, Madonna, Rihanna, Christina, etc.'s music.
It's absolutely not. She's just as "bad" and generic as the rest of them, but they seem to be blind to that because Marry the Night has a personal 9 minute introduction about Lady Gaga in the video and because Judas has religious symbolism in its music video. That doesn't make the songs not generic. Only You and I out of her singles I could argue isn't generic.
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Member Since: 7/3/2011
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Originally posted by satellites™
Rated R gets too much and we all know why, she has not made her personal album yet and that's fine because she is still young. Have you even looked over the tracklist for Rated R and thought about it since the release, or do you just say its good because other people say it is?
Worthy of praise:
6. Russian Roulette
7. Fire Bomb
11. Te Amo
Regular Rihanna:
1. Mad House
2. Wait Your Turn
3. Hard featuring Jeezy
4. Stupid In Love
5. ROCKSTAR 101 featuring Slash
8. Rude Boy
9. Photographs featuring will.i.am
10. G4L
12. Cold Case Love
13. The Last Song
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To be fair, at the time it really had sounded like this was a very personal album. "Cold Case Love" "Photographs" and "Stupid In Love" all could've been somehow related to the CB incident.
It wasn't until TTT, when she recorded Drunk On Love (Stupid In Love's contradictory sister) and backtracked with the BD rihmix that the album lost most if it's meaning.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by Tsuko
I agree that pop music is awful at the moment.
But Lady Gaga is actually one of the worst. Her songs are just as generic as Katy Perry's imo. Especially when you take away the lyrics.
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Never.
Born This Way was a under-performance, but none of the Pop girls out there would dare put out an album as risky as that, and still manage to sell 6 million copies WW. Let's give GaGa her dues.
We all saw how the Rated R era nearly killed off Rihanna's career, with Rudeboy being her saving grace.
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Member Since: 6/12/2011
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Yes it is. But I still need it.
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Member Since: 7/2/2011
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Originally posted by gordovant
That other one can find success without generic songs .. But it seems that we'll have some in the next album.
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Well actually, Born This Way, Judas,Marry The Night don't sound so different to me,
4 is an album that you can call 'uncommercial'.
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Member Since: 10/24/2011
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How is an album with 20 writers, like Rated R, where only 7-8 songs have Rihanna as co-writer a personal album?
Not to mention Rihanna herself said Rude Boy was the song she wrote the most on the whole album 
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Member Since: 8/26/2011
Posts: 5,129
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Originally posted by Mr.Marvelous
Well actually, Born This Way, Judas,Marry The Night don't sound so different to me,
4 is an album that you can call 'uncommercial'.
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And 'Scheisse', 'Heavy Metal Lover' doesn't sound so different to me. After all, Born This Way doesn't have that much 'quality'.'The Fame Monster' remains her album with real quality.
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Member Since: 7/3/2011
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Originally posted by givemethatpop
How is an album with 20 writers, like Rated R, where only 7-8 songs have Rihanna as co-writer a personal album?
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You don't have to write something in order to CONNECT with it.
If you don't see a difference in quality from Rated R to LOUD, then I'm not really sure what to say.
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Member Since: 2/16/2010
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It is Rihanna's own fault for denouncing the personal aspects of Rated R with her recent antics.
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Member Since: 11/10/2011
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Originally posted by Damien M
Never.
Born This Way was a under-performance, but none of the Pop girls out there would dare put out an album as risky as that, and still manage to sell 6 million copies WW. Let's give GaGa her dues.
We all saw how the Rated R era nearly killed off Rihanna's career, with Rudeboy being her saving grace.
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I know the lyrics can be controversial, but if Lady Gaga wants to be risky, she should've released an album fully jazz and rock songs.
Eminem did a song about a guy beating up his girlfriend, and had RIHANNA sing the chorus, and the song was #1 for weeks, sold millions. That's more controversial than saying you're in love with Judas imo.
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Member Since: 10/24/2011
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Originally posted by DejaVu
You don't have to write something in order to CONNECT with it.
If you don't see a difference in quality from Rated R to LOUD, then I'm not really sure what to say. |
So if I release an album written by my friends where I collaborated in a few songs, it's my personal album? 
Yes, I see the difference. I think it's her best album, but...personal? Also, the recent events show what they show.
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Member Since: 12/1/2011
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Originally posted by Tsuko
I know the lyrics can be controversial, but if Lady Gaga wants to be risky, she should've released an album fully jazz and rock songs.
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eww
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Member Since: 3/21/2010
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I can't take anyone seriously who listens to pop music for substance. Pop music is, always has been, and always will be fun music. Sure there's an occasional ballad here and there but pop music has alway been fun. If someone wants substance go to indie, or R&B
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