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Movie: Katy's concert movie won't break even from box-office
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I saw the movie and liked it, so IDRC what anyone else says or if they go to see it.
However, anyone who thinks that Katy and/or her team doesn't mind because this movie was all about the fans being able to see another side of her is delusional. It's all about money. Everything every popstar does is all about money. Paramount and Katy's label did not look into this. A tour that grossed $45m should NOT be made into a movie and someone who has barely sold 10m albums WW should not have a movie chronicling their "rise to fame". It's ridiculous.
Edit: I see the commercial every ten seconds on TV and ads are all over the Internet, so this is embarrassing.
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The tour did not gross 45M.
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Originally posted by LDYGG
I saw the movie and liked it, so IDRC what anyone else says or if they go to see it.
However, anyone who thinks that Katy and/or her team doesn't mind because this movie was all about the fans being able to see another side of her is delusional. It's all about money. Everything every popstar does is all about money. Paramount and Katy's label did not look into this. A tour that grossed $45m should NOT be made into a movie and someone who has barely sold 10m albums WW should not have a movie chronicling their "rise to fame". It's ridiculous.
Edit: I see the commercial every ten seconds on TV and ads are all over the Internet, so this is embarrassing.
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Try $60m (or 59.9m, to be exact)
And like someone said, Paramount might not be happy. But Capitol and Katy sure are. And it's not like they'll lose tons of money
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Originally posted by LDYGG
I saw the movie and liked it, so IDRC what anyone else says or if they go to see it.
However, anyone who thinks that Katy and/or her team doesn't mind because this movie was all about the fans being able to see another side of her is delusional. It's all about money. Everything every popstar does is all about money. Paramount and Katy's label did not look into this. A tour that grossed $45m should NOT be made into a movie and someone who has barely sold 10m albums WW should not have a movie chronicling their "rise to fame". It's ridiculous.
Edit: I see the commercial every ten seconds on TV and ads are all over the Internet, so this is embarrassing.
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Thanks for saving me the trouble of responding to all the previous posts. Just had a great lunch. *burp*
As I said earlier, I believe the Katy stans are merely stating "it's only for fans" to placate their anxiety. You're right. It's all about money. Katy is about money. That's just the way the world works. Does anyone honestly think that Paramount will greenlight this project just because "it's for the fans?" No. They just heard the cha-ching when the label threw out the stat that she's got 5 #1s.
Someone posted that this movie would upgrade her image to the public and push her stardom. But isn't that the crux of the problem? Attendance? In order to actually sell her positive image and push herself into household stardom, people need to GO and see the movie. From what the numbers indicate so far, the attendance isn't where it needs to be. You can't convince the public of her image if they don't see the movie in the first place. And it doesn't seem like they care enough - LDYGG is right that promotion is still very massive - everyone out there knows there's a movie.
That's great that it pushes her album sales/singles, but the only one seeing that success is her record label. Artists get very little out of this. That's a whole other issue, though
Also, factor in the cut that Paramount/theaters receive for the movie. So while it may get 10 million, many will think "oh just 70m more to go." Do remember your economics - not all profit goes directly to one place.
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As I said before, in this case that's Paramount's fault. They offered the deal, she accepted, took the money and made her dream come true, sharing with people the amazing and tough year she had with her tour.
If we're talking about the money here, then it's still working for her. She is the star of the movie, she was paid for this. Movie stars still get paid even if their movies flop. She invested the money at first but then got the money back and obviously a profit.
Another good thing about this is that she's making her brand bigger and stronger, wich eventually will help her to get more money in the future. Probably with her next tour, the tickets price will increase and will gross more money than the CDT. Her albums and singles sales are increasing right now and next era probably will happen the same.
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I said eariler this year that this movie would be one of the few mistakes of Katy's career and it looks like I was right. Why can't people just stay in their lane when they are having success? Katy should have known her fanbase wasn't big enough to do a concert movie, she should have just took filmed the concert and released it with the rerelease of Teenage Dream.
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It's doing exactly like I thought it would. At least it's not completely tanking.
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Why haters are everyday here talking about her movie? They are such stans
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Originally posted by rue005
As I said before, in this case that's Paramount's fault. They offered the deal, she accepted, took the money and made her dream come true, sharing with people the amazing and tough year she had with her tour.
If we're talking about the money here, then it's still working for her. She is the star of the movie, she was paid for this. Movie stars still get paid even if their movies flop. She invested the money at first but then got the money back and obviously a profit.
Another good thing about this is that she's making her brand bigger and stronger, wich eventually will help her to get more money in the future. Probably with her next tour, the tickets price will increase and will gross more money than the CDT. Her albums and singles sales are increasing right now and next era probably will happen the same.
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The fact that she put her own money into it shows that Paramount made no deal. If there was a deal, Paramount would have paid for it all + gave her money. She basically paid to have the movie made, which is good that she actually used her own money, but it has nothing to do with her wanting to share anything, it's about money. Katy has bought into her own hype. She thinks she's untouchable at this point and that's just not true.
Again, she was not paid for the movie because she put $2,000,000 of her own money into it. Most of, if not all of the money will go directly to Paramount since they paid the other $10m plus the millions more it's costing to promote it.
Also, no, she's not making her brand bigger. Putting your name on something doesn't make your brand bigger, it just adds something to your brand. If the movie turns around and succeeds, then that will make her brand bigger.
All of this is common sense and a lot of your points are hypothetical. Maybe it'll increase her album sales, maybe it'll make her brand bigger, maybe her next tour will gross more. Sorry, but if 5-8 #1 singles isn't enough to already do that for her, then nothing will be enough.
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Member Since: 1/11/2012
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If I was a movie studio, I would not have greenlit this movie. It never had a chance of being a huge hit. However, I am SO glad she did it. I loved it, it made me love her more.
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The movie was cheap, got positive reviews, fans love it, Paramount is selling tickets, then Blu-ray/DVDs, her album sales are increasing, Wide Awake is #1, i don't see the problem
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Member Since: 2/25/2012
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This is to be expected, Katy isn't a celebrity just another pop star with a string of catchy generic well rounded hits.
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my base poll about Gawker.com's review was pulled down. there is no poll to vote yes or no for the film! anywho its really sad to see this flop like Battleship or John Carter.
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The two million that she "funded" the movie with was probably from when she hired the two guys to follow her around tour with the cameras. This was before she'd even thought about a 3D movie.
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Originally posted by LDYGG
The fact that she put her own money into it shows that Paramount made no deal. If there was a deal, Paramount would have paid for it all + gave her money. She basically paid to have the movie made, which is good that she actually used her own money, but it has nothing to do with her wanting to share anything, it's about money. Katy has bought into her own hype. She thinks she's untouchable at this point and that's just not true.
Again, she was not paid for the movie because she put $2,000,000 of her own money into it. Most of, if not all of the money will go directly to Paramount since they paid the other $10m plus the millions more it's costing to promote it.
Also, no, she's not making her brand bigger. Putting your name on something doesn't make your brand bigger, it just adds something to your brand. If the movie turns around and succeeds, then that will make her brand bigger.
All of this is common sense and a lot of your points are hypothetical. Maybe it'll increase her album sales, maybe it'll make her brand bigger, maybe her next tour will gross more. Sorry, but if 5-8 #1 singles isn't enough to already do that for her, then nothing will be enough.
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This is the point of my previous point - you can't get a bigger, better image if people don't go see the movie. At this point, she risks serious embarrassment. Everyone knows the movie is out and if they read the box office gross, it won't take a genius to put two and two together.
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Well we all saw this coming.
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How the **** is this embarrassing?
They're not great numbers but no one was expecting huge ones anyway.
This is just another case of the same people trying the same ways to make Katy out as irrelevant.
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Originally posted by Shapes
How the **** is this embarrassing?
They're not great numbers but no one was expecting huge ones anyway.
This is just another case of the same people trying the same ways to make Katy out as irrelevant.
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Right?
Katy must be crying for her 3D movie, her #1 single on iTunes and her album sales increasing.
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Member Since: 12/15/2009
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Should of been straight to dvd. not even hbo.
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Originally posted by LDYGG
The fact that she put her own money into it shows that Paramount made no deal. If there was a deal, Paramount would have paid for it all + gave her money. She basically paid to have the movie made, which is good that she actually used her own money, but it has nothing to do with her wanting to share anything, it's about money. Katy has bought into her own hype. She thinks she's untouchable at this point and that's just not true.
Again, she was not paid for the movie because she put $2,000,000 of her own money into it. Most of, if not all of the money will go directly to Paramount since they paid the other $10m plus the millions more it's costing to promote it.
Also, no, she's not making her brand bigger. Putting your name on something doesn't make your brand bigger, it just adds something to your brand. If the movie turns around and succeeds, then that will make her brand bigger.
All of this is common sense and a lot of your points are hypothetical. Maybe it'll increase her album sales, maybe it'll make her brand bigger, maybe her next tour will gross more. Sorry, but if 5-8 #1 singles isn't enough to already do that for her, then nothing will be enough.
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Obviously there was a deal involved. Paramount was not behind this since the beginning. Katy has said in interviews how she invested her own money to document the behind the scenes of the tour because in the future she wanted to share those moments with fans and people.
Then Paramount was interested and initiated talks with Katy and her team about making the documentary. Katy found the deal good for her and she got what she wanted. I know part of what she wanted was money, obviously. But she also wanted people to know all those details about her tour and her career, if she didn't want to share something then the movie would be only about the concert and that's it. But no, she included everything about her life even before being known as Katy Perry.
And yes, things like this make your brand bigger. And bigger is not only about the economic value, generating a new perception from the public makes your brand stronger. That's why many companies get involved in social and cultural causes, because that helps to build a bigger brand and impacts on people's perception about it. And then there are other tactics to make it economically bigger. But I won't start talking about marketing tactics right now. I understand your point about the commercial success of the movie, but it's really soon to tell if this didn't work in favor of Perry.
Obviously my points are hypothetical, I can't predict the future. I'm pretty sure the success of her singles will help her to create a stronger tour for next era. The CDT was her first big worlwide tour, she was testing the waters and found out she has potential for a bigger tour act. As I said, probably that will lead to a bigger gross. But it's just a prediction.
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She thinks she's untouchable at this point and that's just not true.
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Of course she's not untouchable, and I don't think she actually thinks about herself like that, I don't know why you get that vibe from her. She knows nothing is guaranteed, not even her fans, she's said that many times before.
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