Really? Are you here to drag Shakira's sales? WRONG THREAD, pal.
right now who sells more albums, singles, tours??? Beyonce right now is more global than Shakira and I doubt Shalira with her new album has a little relevance
I might be bias in saying Shakira, because I'm Latino and find that genre of dancing much harder that Bey's. It's just how I was raised, and eventually it became easier and more natural once time passed, probably how it was for Shakira too.
I like Beyoncé more, but Shakira is basically the current and probably overall queen of dancing. And no, I'm not pressed about Bey's sales considering she is one of my faves, and my main fave is slaying while on "break".
Beyoncé is awesome at choreographed dancing. If she were to do improvised dancing she will be lost. Dance is another form of expressing one feelings. Choreographed dance is robotic and looses that touch. Shakira dances from the heart, and displays versatility and fluidity. Beyoncé gets A for effort though.
right now who sells more albums, singles, tours??? Beyonce right now is more global than Shakira and I doubt Shalira with her new album has a little relevance
lo siento pero es la verdad
Shakira and little relevance dont go well together. Almost all her singles smash in Spanish talking countries, plus she gets tons of VEVO views, being the only female to have more than 1 #VEVOcertified in Spanish, and being the only one having 2 #VEVOcertifieds for the same song in different languages
You've been trying so hard to defend a point that was never made. The original post was just about Beyonce winning an EMA for "Best Video". Not even that original poster argued that it was an indicative endorsement of her dancing skills.
"Single Ladies" is an entertaining, fun music video that compliments the song well and did a remarkably great job of engaging audiences. And yes, actually, the use of a minimalist style (no props in the video, white background, black and white video, and only 3 characters) adds to the videos appeal and the reason why it was an effective video. The MTV EMA judges are not dance critics, so stop trying it by claiming she won a Music Video award for dancing. lol
Ciara's "Gimme Dat" has explosive, impressive dancing and yet totally went under the radar... probably because the music wasn't appealing enough. It goes hand in hand. "Single Ladies" won a Video Award, not a dancing award. Let's not.
It's okay to stan, but sometimes you have to temper it and not stan so hard. Additionally, I already said Beyonce is a better dancer in my first very post and voted for her, so it's not as if I need any convincing, if that is your underlying goal.
I understand what the original post was about, and now I am making a separate point. So you see, I am not defending a point that hasn't been made, because I am making it right now. Must nobody else be able to make a point than the person who first brings something up?
I agree that all the ingredients of Single Ladies's video made it successful and likely led to the judges naming it Best Video. However, as I've already stated the video's content is entirely danced. If Beyonce was not a great dancer, if she was merely okay or even just good, the video would not have had the same impact. Imagine watching 3:00+ minutes of an okay dancer. That video would not be getting awards left and right. It wouldn't be praised and it wouldn't be as amazing to watch even with the minimalism. So to say that the skilled dancing had an effect on the judging outcome is not a reach at all regardless of whether the judges are dance critics when the dancing is what makes or breaks the video. As to your argument that other videos exist with great dancing, that's true. But that's the industry. Most of the time only the biggest artists get the most attention for their work.
And I am well aware about stanning too hard. I'm just failing to see how one can claim that it does not speak to a dancer's credit when a video of nothing else but continual dancing wins best video. At the very least it is the second most important factor of the video if you want to say that the style of the video was more important.
I understand what the original post was about, and now I am making a separate point. So you see, I am not defending a point that hasn't been made, because I am making it right now. Must nobody else be able to make a point than the person who first brings something up?
I agree that all the ingredients of Single Ladies's video made it successful and likely led to the judges naming it Best Video. However, as I've already stated the video's content is entirely danced. If Beyonce was not a great dancer, if she was merely okay or even just good, the video would not have had the same impact. Imagine watching 3:00+ minutes of an okay dancer. That video would not be getting awards left and right. It wouldn't be praised and it wouldn't be as amazing to watch even with the minimalism. So to say that the skilled dancing had an effect on the judging outcome is not a reach at all regardless of whether the judges are dance critics when the dancing is what makes or breaks the video. As to your argument that other videos exist with great dancing, that's true. But that's the industry. Most of the time only the biggest artists get the most attention for their work.
And I am well aware about stanning too hard. I'm just failing to see how one can claim that it does not speak to a dancer's credit when a video of nothing else but continual dancing wins best video. At the very least it is the second most important factor of the video if you want to say that the style of the video was more important.
Cool story, bro. The music industry people who were on the voting panel are suddenly legitimate dance critics. Got it.
Cool story, bro. The music industry people who were on the voting panel are suddenly legitimate dance critics. Got it.
As I've already said it about five times and you don't seem to want to understand I'm just going to quote myself:
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Originally posted by swissman
Regardless of whether the judges are dance critics … when a video of nothing else but continual dancing wins best video … when the dancing is what makes or breaks the video … to say that the skilled dancing had an effect on the judging outcome is not a reach at all.
If you can't figure this out now I'll just give up. Is this hard to understand for anyone else? Am I truly reaching?