[Jet]

Originally posted by NotTonightTho

Could you please do some research, or at the very least read the thread before posting on such a sensitive topic? Ignorance is neither cute nor funny.

It's embarrassing how sensitive y'all are. Like out all the racism in the world your stuck on this? What waste of time.

[Ascension]

Originally posted by Genocide

d it's not ignorance if one isn't offended by this it's not one's job to go up in arms to topics like this

And where did I say it was every Black person's duty to be offended?

It is absolutely ignorance if you legitimately can't see how a Black person could be offended by a White person in Black face. You clearly don't understand or are unaware of the history behind it which goes back to ignorance. If you are aware and don't care it's simply apathy. One or the other.

Hit dogs will holler tho.

[Ryanicorn]

Originally posted by JClarkSTAN

I think everyone knows her intention wasn't to be racist but thats what it ended up as being anyway. I think the people defending what she did is what is getting other people upset and defensive. If she didn't do anything wrong, she wouldn't have apologized. Hopefully this serves as a lesson learned for more people who never really understood the history behind this.

She probably only apologised because she didn't want to ripped apart.

[NotTonightTho]

Originally posted by Tylerbv

I got secondhand embarrassment from this post

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This was stupid of her, but her intention obviously wasn't to be racist. She's realized her mistake and apologized and that's all. Let's move on

The argument isn't against what she did for the most part, the argument is between those who feel it isn't that serious and those who see what she did as wrong.

[RATED K]

[JClarkSTAN]

Originally posted by rivers

I don't see the problem with the costume. So a white person wants to be someone of a different race for Halloween. What's the crime of that? She obviously likes the character. If she had racist intentions then this is a different story. It's like a black girl being Cinderella for Halloween.

You can be a black character without having to paint your skin black sis. If she didn't paint her skin, no one would have cared.

[Ascension]

Originally posted by rivers

I don't see the problem with the costume. So a white person wants to be someone of a different race for Halloween. What's the crime of that? She obviously likes the character. If she had racist intentions then this is a different story. It's like a black girl being Cinderella for Halloween.

Yeah, except there is no long, messy history of Black people dressing as White people to exploit and cruelly mock them. On the other hand:

The stock characters of blackface minstrelsy have played a significant role in disseminating racist images, attitudes and perceptions worldwide. Every immigrant group was stereotyped on the music hall stage during the 19th Century, but the history of prejudice, hostility, and ignorance towards black people has insured a unique longevity to the stereotypes. White America's conceptions of Black entertainers were shaped by minstrelsy's mocking caricatures and for over one hundred years the belief that Blacks were racially and socially inferior was fostered by legions of both white and black performers in blackface.

Originating in the White man's characterizations of plantation slaves and free blacks during the era of minstrel shows (1830-1890), the caricatures took such a firm hold on the American imagination that audiences expected any person with dark skin, no matter what their background, to conform to one or more of the stereotypes:

Blackface makeup was either a layer of burnt cork on a layer of coca butter or black grease paint. In the early years exaggerated red lips were painted around their mouths, like those of today's circus clowns. In later years the lips were usually painted white or unpainted. Costumes were usually gaudy combinations of formal wear; swallowtail coats, striped trousers, and top hats.

Minstrel show entertainment included imitating black music and dance and speaking in a "plantation" dialect. The shows featured a variety of jokes, songs, dances and skits that were based on the ugliest stereotypes of African American slaves. From 1840 to 1890, minstrel shows were the most popular form of entertainment in America.

White audiences in the 19th Century wouldn't accept real black entertainers on stage unless they performed in blackface makeup. One of the first Blacks to perform in blackface for White audiences was the man who invented tap dancing, William Henry Lane, aka Master Juba. Lane's talent and skill were extraordinary and eventually he became famous enough that he was able to perform in his own skin.

[rivers]

Originally posted by JClarkSTAN

You can be a black character without having to paint your skin black sis. If she didn't paint her skin, no one would have cared.

Is a white guy wearing a black mask, let's say an Obama mask the same thing as wearing black makeup? Is the guy portraying "blackface"? What if Julianne wore a mask instead?

[NotTonightTho]

Originally posted by Lethal

It's embarrassing how sensitive y'all are. Like out all the racism in the world your stuck on this? What waste of time.

No, embarrassing is trivializing another black American's feelings on a matter that obviously bothers them. For you to look down on another for being offended by something is cringeworthy. I have the ****ing right to be upset by this. I don't give a damn how you feel about this but you will not come here and tell me I'm wrong for attempting to explain why she was wrong. Blackface is offensive. You clearly recognize that this was offensive, why are you belittling those who choose to speak out on it?


And this, ladies and gentleman, is a peek into some of the insensitivity we face, even within our own race.

[Jet]

Originally posted by Ascension

And where did I say it was every Black person's duty to be offended?

It is absolutely ignorance if you legitimately can't see how a Black person could be offended by a White person in Black face. You clearly don't understand or are unaware of the history behind it which goes back to ignorance. If you are aware and don't care it's simply apathy. One or the other.

Hit dogs will holler tho.

Calm down it's not that serious. Y'all highly embarrassing

[Gee]

Must be a slow news day.

[NotTonightTho]

Originally posted by rivers

Is a white guy wearing a black mask, let's say an Obama mask the same thing as wearing black makeup? Is the guy portraying "blackface"? What if Julianne wore a mask instead?

Sis, you know I love you, but I need you to stop trivializing what she did. Wearing a black mask does not have the same history as painting your face black.

[Jet]

Originally posted by NotTonightTho

No, embarrassing is trivializing another black American's feelings on a matter that obviously bothers them. For you to look down on another for being offended by something is cringeworthy. I have the ****ing right to be upset by this. I don't give a damn how you feel about this but you will not come here and tell me I'm wrong for attempting to explain why she was wrong. Blackface is offensive. You clearly recognize that this was offensive, why are you belittling those who choose to speak out on it?


And this, ladies and gentleman, is a peek into some of the insensitivity we face, even within our own race.

Reevaluate your post. The topic is not anything note worthy. Y'all are the reason white people think black people say everything is racist. You aren't helping the stereotype in any sense.

[Jet]

And I you're misusing the word "trivializing"

[primo.]

White people are so embarrassing and irritating.

[rivers]

Originally posted by NotTonightTho

Sis, you know I love you, but I need you to stop trivializing what she did. Wearing a black mask does not have the same history as painting your face black.

Ok that's the answer I wanted. She should've worn a mask then. I just don't see the difference. I love you too sis. I just see it differently. Let's agree to disagree.

[Ascension]

Originally posted by Lethal

Calm down it's not that serious. Y'all highly embarrassing

Any person that is offended by this and wants to speak on it has every right without a peanut gallery of dim wits chirping about how "Black people do the most," "how is this offensive," "OMG not that serious" and "like, calm down" like broken records.

I didn't even comment on this initially as every Halloween some dumb ass White person does this mess, but, it is annoying as hell that people will fight tooth and nail to silence people who speak on things that bother them. How is someone voicing their opinion on a matter bothering you in any way? Grow the **** up.

[Sean 97]

Originally posted by Ramos

Why is always the white people accussed of being racist when they do this things? We have Nicki and Beyonce painting her faces white since forever and nobody is saying that they are racists.

I SCREAMED

[NotTonightTho]

Originally posted by Lethal

And I you're misusing the word "trivializing"

You are attempting to make my feelings on the subject less important.

You are trivializing my feelings.

You're not only insensitive, you have a weak grasp on the English language

[yngks]

Originally posted by Scheisse

But she didn't dress up as a skin color. she dressed up as a character on a tv show who happens to be black

Wow this thread isn't gonna go anywhere omg anyway the comment I responded to was attempting to justify blackface by comparing it to people who dress up as Indian people for Halloween. You missed the whole point. She could've went with the same outfit, the same name tag, the same hair and left her skin the way it is and it would have been a great representation of the character from the show. That is what she said she was going for. Not the actual human being who portrays the character on TV.