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Discussion: How do we fight against racism?
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Really?
Jews can pass themselves off as white.
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This. I mean.... 
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Really?
Jews can pass themselves off as white.
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True, I guess. Plus, America became pro-Israel.
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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And ya'll think racism is bad in the U.S. and Europe?
Let's not even get started on Latin America. 
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Member Since: 3/8/2012
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Originally posted by Artemisia
I read something about how asian agriculture wired hard work into asian culture as an important value. something about how rice fields require work 24/7 and that slacking would ruin the entire harvest. Also, asian language makes it easier to learn math because the numbers are easier to understand at a younger age. This makes the average elementary asian student ahead of the average western student in many aspects.
This could all be false, but I thought it was a nice theory.
tBut,There are actually subsections of the asian american community that suffer because of that stereotype.
SAT scores need to be higher than average for them to get into schools. They are basically expected to perform higher than the status quo, or not be accepted.
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Yes, my point is though that hard work gets you what is needed most of the time. Not denying the fact there is not a fair playing field though.
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
Posts: 10,506
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Originally posted by Artemisia
I read something about how asian agriculture wired hard work into asian culture as an important value. something about how rice fields require work 24/7 and that slacking would ruin the entire harvest. Also, asian language makes it easier to learn math because the numbers are easier to understand at a younger age. This makes the average elementary asian student ahead of the average western student in many aspects.
This could all be false, but I thought it was a nice theory.
tBut,There are actually subsections of the asian american community that suffer because of that stereotype.
SAT scores need to be higher than average for them to get into schools. They are basically expected to perform higher than the status quo, or not be accepted.
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I think you have to be a bit more honest and admit that the child-raising is FAR different between Blacks and Asians (majority-wise). Asians stress more on education (even those living in the inner-city, under-served populations) whereas Blacks don't stress as much on their children as they SHOULD..one of the tenets of Obama's administration that focuses on education from childhood, not just from college.
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Member Since: 2/6/2010
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Originally posted by NE.
And ya'll think racism is bad in the U.S. and Europe?
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This. This this this this this this this this this.
THIS. I literally can't even "this" this post more. Racism in Latin America leads to sex trafficking, outright murder and even more heinous crimes. It all seems to be swept under the rug, though.
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Member Since: 4/20/2012
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you can never win against reckless hate. it will never end, simply because some people can't live without hating something. discrimination is just sometimes literally a lifestyle, something people can't live without and it's certainly most impossible to fight it when some of those people reproduce and influence a whole new generation of people who discriminate. it's impossible, we can't live in a world void of discrimination, no matter how great or how small it is it will always be there.
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Member Since: 2/16/2012
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Really?
Jews can pass themselves off as white.
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Same with Hispanics. A ton of people who wouldn't be deemed white, identify with it so their life can be easier.
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Member Since: 2/16/2012
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Originally posted by Mhs90
I think you have to be a bit more honest and admit that the child-raising is FAR different between Blacks and Asians (majority-wise). Asians stress more on education (even those living in the inner-city, under-served populations) whereas Blacks don't stress as much on their children as they SHOULD..one of the tenets of Obama's administration that focuses on education from childhood, not just from college.
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Okay and white parents don't stress education on their kids either. I'm not sure what y'all are getting at.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
Yes, my point is though that hard work gets you what is needed most of the time. Not denying the fact there is not a fair playing field though.
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yes, but for blacks, it's harder because even though they work hard, they still suffer from damaging stereotypes.
also thanks for making this thread, some of the girls on this forum are just... 
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Member Since: 3/8/2012
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Originally posted by Artemisia
yes, but for blacks, it's harder because even though they work hard, they still suffer from damaging stereotypes.
also thanks for making this thread, some of the girls on this forum are just... |
No problem I guess. As long as everyone can hold a respectful discussion 
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Member Since: 4/19/2012
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Remember when Gaga's make up artist did that racist tweet about Die Antwoord which referenced that they would have gone to Madonna's school there henceforth slandering their background and the whole of the Zef culture.
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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Originally posted by RastaMentality
Okay and white parents don't stress education on their kids either. I'm not sure what y'all are getting at.
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That's exactly my point. The majority of white kids live in suburbs, where their schools do all the "pushing" for them.
Whereas in under-served populations, the schools could care less (from my experience). Blacks are left there just to pass time, learn that education is just a passing phase in their life and not useful at all, and decide to drop out or not continue their education.
But majority wise, the Asian community in both suburbs and inner-cities stress education on their children (where else did the smart Asian stereotype come from? Stereotypes exist for a reason).
All I'm saying is that majority-wise, whether it be from Parents or the community, education has to be stressed more upon in all inner-city children, especially Blacks so that they can learn that there are open doors for them. Less Blacks will play the victim card (you can't deny there are some Black people like this).
This isn't meant to shade at all, as you can see from my previous posts on here. I come from a rich suburban area, but I've volunteer many summers in the inner-city with high school Black kids. They're bright as hell but they don't realize their potential because nobody instilled the value of education in them. That's the root problem, and that's why it's so much easier for them to play the victim card rather than go on the arduous path of getting an education.
Sorry if this was off topic ,which I'm sure it is but I think racism against Blacks has to do a lot with people automatically thinking they're "lazy" which they arent.
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Member Since: 4/19/2012
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Originally posted by Mhs90
That's exactly my point. The majority of white kids live in suburbs, where their schools do all the "pushing" for them.
Whereas in under-served populations, the schools could care less (from my experience). Blacks are left there just to pass time, learn that education is just a passing phase in their life and not useful at all, and decide to drop out or not continue their education.
But majority wise, the Asian community in both suburbs and inner-cities stress education on their children (where else did the smart Asian stereotype come from? Stereotypes exist for a reason).
All I'm saying is that majority-wise, whether it be from Parents or the community, education has to be stressed more upon in all inner-city children, especially Blacks so that they can learn that there are open doors for them. Less Blacks will play the victim card (you can't deny there are some Black people like this).
This isn't meant to shade at all, as you can see from my previous posts on here. I come from a rich suburban area, but I've volunteer many summers in the inner-city with high school Black kids. They're bright as hell but they don't realize their potential because nobody instilled the value of education in them. That's the root problem, and that's why it's so much easier for them to play the victim card rather than go on the arduous path of getting an education.
Sorry if this was off topic ,which I'm sure it is but I think racism against Blacks has to do a lot with people automatically thinking they're "lazy" which they arent.
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So you think Caucasian and Asian people are lazy and everything gets done for them? Bit racist and stereotypical. I am severely offended.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by Mhs90
That's exactly my point. The majority of white kids live in suburbs, where their schools do all the "pushing" for them.
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****. I never thought about it that way. That's a great point!
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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Originally posted by supercalz
So you think Caucasian and Asian people are lazy and everything gets done for them? Bit racist and stereotypical. I am severely offended.
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Ah, words in my mouth. Smh
No. Most white people have the LUXURY of excellent schools because most of them live in suburbs compared to other racial counterparts. Their parents, I am most postiively sure, are a great influence in their education but so is there school. The luxury aspect is involved in the "white supremacy" idea, look it up.
Asians. Boy, did you not ready my post?
And yea, truth does offend people. Sorry boo
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Member Since: 2/16/2012
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Originally posted by Mhs90
That's exactly my point. The majority of white kids live in suburbs, where their schools do all the "pushing" for them.
Whereas in under-served populations, the schools could care less (from my experience). Blacks are left there just to pass time, learn that education is just a passing phase in their life and not useful at all, and decide to drop out or not continue their education.
But majority wise, the Asian community in both suburbs and inner-cities stress education on their children (where else did the smart Asian stereotype come from? Stereotypes exist for a reason).
All I'm saying is that majority-wise, whether it be from Parents or the community, education has to be stressed more upon in all inner-city children, especially Blacks so that they can learn that there are open doors for them. Less Blacks will play the victim card (you can't deny there are some Black people like this).
This isn't meant to shade at all, as you can see from my previous posts on here. I come from a rich suburban area, but I've volunteer many summers in the inner-city with high school Black kids. They're bright as hell but they don't realize their potential because nobody instilled the value of education in them. That's the root problem, and that's why it's so much easier for them to play the victim card rather than go on the arduous path of getting an education.
Sorry if this was off topic ,which I'm sure it is but I think racism against Blacks has to do a lot with people automatically thinking they're "lazy" which they arent.
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People here don't understand or realize inner city education and how ****** it is.
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Member Since: 2/6/2010
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Originally posted by Mhs90
That's exactly my point. The majority of white kids live in suburbs, where their schools do all the "pushing" for them.
Whereas in under-served populations, the schools could care less (from my experience). Blacks are left there just to pass time, learn that education is just a passing phase in their life and not useful at all, and decide to drop out or not continue their education.
But majority wise, the Asian community in both suburbs and inner-cities stress education on their children (where else did the smart Asian stereotype come from? Stereotypes exist for a reason).
All I'm saying is that majority-wise, whether it be from Parents or the community, education has to be stressed more upon in all inner-city children, especially Blacks so that they can learn that there are open doors for them. Less Blacks will play the victim card (you can't deny there are some Black people like this).
This isn't meant to shade at all, as you can see from my previous posts on here. I come from a rich suburban area, but I've volunteer many summers in the inner-city with high school Black kids. They're bright as hell but they don't realize their potential because nobody instilled the value of education in them. That's the root problem, and that's why it's so much easier for them to play the victim card rather than go on the arduous path of getting an education.
Sorry if this was off topic ,which I'm sure it is but I think racism against Blacks has to do a lot with people automatically thinking they're "lazy" which they arent.
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We talked a lot about this in our English class last year after we read Savage Inequalities by Jonathon Kozol. The biggest problem with the education thing is that the funding is directly connected to property taxes, so the schools that have the poorest students don't get the money they need because--surprise!--the houses aren't as expensive as in a suburb. Many people don't realize this, to be honest--I thought that it was just common knowledge that the funding comes from property taxes.
It would be nice to say that more money would solve the problem, but that's just not the case unfortunately. I live in a city with about 250k population, and I go to the school that serves the rural population and some suburbs (a good mix of privileged kids and otherwise not), but we have SUBSTANTIALLY less money per kid than the inner-city school system (literally a couple hundred dollars less per student) yet we do better in almost every measure. I have no idea what we can do to remedy this problem.
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Member Since: 4/19/2012
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Originally posted by Mhs90
Ah, words in my mouth. Smh
No. Most white people have the LUXURY of excellent schools because most of them live in suburbs compared to other racial counterparts. Their parents, I am most postiively sure, are a great influence in their education but so is there school. The luxury aspect is involved in the "white supremacy" idea, look it up.
Asians. Boy, did you not ready my post?
And yea, truth does offend people. Sorry boo
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You did sort of say that, I just summed up what you said. It was hyperbole anyway.
I can't really relate to what you said because I live in England and schools are just schools here.
But from an outsiders point of view reading what you put you seem hypocritical and butthurt. You obviously have a minor dislike towards Caucasian people.
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Member Since: 5/28/2010
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Originally posted by Mhs90
Ah, words in my mouth. Smh
No. Most white people have the LUXURY of excellent schools because most of them live in suburbs compared to other racial counterparts. Their parents, I am most postiively sure, are a great influence in their education but so is there school. The luxury aspect is involved in the "white supremacy" idea, look it up.
Asians. Boy, did you not ready my post?
And yea, truth does offend people. Sorry boo
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Not sure if I agree with this.
If you look at the average ACT/SAT test score, they are pretty sh*tty. There aren't enough minorities to contribute substantially to those numbers so they are coming from a lot of white people.
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