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Discussion: What's your stance on...? #46: Organ Donation
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Originally posted by HausofCherry
I know not everyone is Christian, but I am, and as one I believe that God created Eve (woman) as the counterpart for Adam (man). Furthermore I believe in God's command to "be fruitful and multiply", which is impossible with man-on-man sex. We can only reproduce by means of man-on-woman. Furthermore same-sex sex is called an abomination in the Bible.
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Hopefully you won't ever have sex for pleasure. You would be breaking that commandment that says to be fruitful and multiply.
No condoms/contraceptives either because that wouldn't allow your partner to conceive 
The Bible says a lot of things - don't eat shellfish, sell your daughter into slavery, commandments to stone people, etc. Should we enforce those too?
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I'm not meaning to offend anyone's religion here but you have to take the bible with a bit of salt. It is well known that hundreds of years ago many books were taken out of the bible and certain things were added and edited to suit the, then Catholic Chruch, as a means to control the people. Also the bible has been re-translated many times and things get lost in translation.
Also the book in the bible that say's that homosexuals are 'abominations' also has other ludicrous claims that no-one follows today, so why should anyone follow that one?
Someone in the bible murders for God, should we do that? Should we all pile into an Ark everytime it rains? Let me remind you this is the same book that can't make up it's mind if Noah takes 2 of each animal or 7 of each...it isn't all that reliable.
Jesus told people to 'Love thy neighbour' I see no place where he say's...'but not if they are gay'
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I see nothing wrong with it. I'm a HUGE Supporter of Love!
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Originally posted by HausofCherry
I believe that God told man what to write in the Bible... so yes.
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Well I'll write a book full of contradictions stating what's right and wrong and how people should live their lives. Hopefully thousand of years from now after it's been rewritten and translated from tons of different languages and then lost in the shuffle people will follow it to the T.
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Originally posted by HausofCherry
I believe that God told man what to write in the Bible... so yes.
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Men lie. Humans are corrupt, they twist things to further their own mends and certain branches of Christianity are infamous for that.
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Originally posted by PopBoi
No shade, I've just never heard of/met a straight male gaga stan before
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I'm straight 
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I think gays would make just as good parents as a straight couple, the only issue IMO would be if the kid was a guy, especially a straight guy, he would get the **** kicked out of him at school
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Originally posted by Jewfro
Hopefully you won't ever have sex for pleasure. You would be breaking that commandment that says to be fruitful and multiply.
No condoms/contraceptives either because that wouldn't allow your partner to conceive
The Bible says a lot of things - don't eat shellfish, sell your daughter into slavery, commandments to stone people, etc. Should we enforce those too? |
I don't understand it being okay to let men rape your virgin daughter but not being okay for people of the same sex to love each other.
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
I'm not meaning to offend anyone's religion here but you have to take the bible with a bit of salt. It is well known that hundreds of years ago many books were taken out of the bible and certain things were added and edited to suit the, then Catholic Chruch, as a means to control the people. Also the bible has been re-translated many times and things get lost in translation.
Also the book in the bible that say's that homosexuals are 'abominations' also has other ludicrous claims that no-one follows today, so why should anyone follow that one?
Someone in the bible murders for God, should we do that? Should we all pile into an Ark everytime it rains? Let me remind you this is the same book that can't make up it's mind if Noah takes 2 of each animal or 7 of each...it isn't all that reliable.
Jesus told people to 'Love thy neighbour' I see no place where he say's...'but not if they are gay'
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It's because people take most of the controversial issues with the bible out of the Old Testament which is not supposed to be regarded anymore in modern times. The Old Testament is there as a reference for Christians while the New Testament is the part that is actually meant to be lived out by Christians.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
It's your life, your choice, do as you please.
When it comes to gay couples adopting though, you're bringing another life into the equation, so I'm mixed on that. *expects crucification*
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Why mixed, out of curiosity?
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Originally posted by RatedGaga
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Come to think of it, Roman is straight too
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It seems that people who believe fully in the bible know less about it than people who don't.
Most Christians have never even heard of, never mind read, the gospel of Judas which has been available for a long ass time.
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Originally posted by Jewfro
Hopefully you won't ever have sex for pleasure. You would be breaking that commandment that says to be fruitful and multiply.
No condoms/contraceptives either because that wouldn't allow your partner to conceive
The Bible says a lot of things - don't eat shellfish, sell your daughter into slavery, commandments to stone people, etc. Should we enforce those too? |
I don't intend on having sex solely for pleasure or using birth control/condoms.
I haven't read the entire Bible so excuse me for my partial ignorance when I say that I'm not aware of Bible verses ordering people to sell their daughters into slavery. If that indeed is in the Bible, it was likely in the Old Testament. The New Testament says that some things that were forbidden in the Old Testament - such as eating shellfish - are now perfectly acceptable.
And I think the stoning is one of those instances. Jesus said that "He without sin may cast the first stone" so stoning is no longer acceptable (the Bible says that all people are sinful and thus no one is innocent).
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
It's because people take most of the controversial issues with the bible out of the Old Testament which is not supposed to be regarded anymore in modern times. The Old Testament is there as a reference for Christians while the New Testament is the part that is actually meant to be lived out by Christians.
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The Old Testament, as it appears to me, seems like a totally different God. The OT portrays a jealous and vengeful God while Jesus preaches about Love and tolerance. You can't really slam those books together, it ends up in a very hypocritical religion, you can't pick and choose what you want to follow and what you don't. Either you have a strict attitude to everything or you relax realise that the times have changed and follow peace and love.
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Everyone should enjoy what he likes...
I don't have anything against, nor I'm going pro for it...
But, marriage and kids for gay couples is... a little weird 
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Originally posted by HausofCherry
I don't intend on having sex solely for pleasure or using birth control/condoms.
I haven't read the entire Bible so excuse me for my partial ignorance when I say that I'm not aware of Bible verses ordering people to sell their daughters into slavery. If that indeed is in the Bible, it was likely in the Old Testament. The New Testament says that some things that were forbidden in the Old Testament - such as eating shellfish - are now perfectly acceptable.
And I think the stoning is one of those instances. Jesus said that "He without sin may cast the first stone" so stoning is no longer acceptable (the Bible says that all people are sinful and thus no one is innocent).
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Agree with you.
Agree Again.
Nice Example which shows that the Old Testament is merely there for reference and not meant to actually be lived out.
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
It seems that people who believe fully in the bible know less about it than people who don't.
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Yeah, it's been proven that Atheists and Non-Christians have more knowledge concerning the bible than the actual brainwashed Christians do.
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Originally posted by itstotallybea
Men lie. Humans are corrupt, they twist things to further their own mends and certain branches of Christianity are infamous for that.
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Of course there are going to be minor differences from branch to branch, denomination to denomination, and church to church. However, many commands - including the one not to engage in homosexual relations, I'm pretty sure - are present throughout the entire religion.
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you know technically, I'm a christian
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Originally posted by HausofCherry
I don't intend on having sex for pleasure or using birth control/condoms.
I haven't read the entire Bible so excuse me for my partial ignorance when I say that I'm not aware of Bible verses ordering people to sell their daughters into slavery. If that indeed is in the Bible, it was likely in the Old Testament. The New Testament says that some things that were forbidden in the Old Testament - such as eating shellfish - are now perfectly acceptable.
And I think the stoning is one of those instances. Jesus said that "He without sin may cast the first stone" so stoning is no longer acceptable (the Bible says that all people are sinful and thus no one is innocent).
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It's in there and it's in the Old Testament. Along with God committing genocide. And God telling men to rape various women.
And if Old Testament commandments are no longer applicable, why did you use a reference from Leviticus? If some aren't applicable, why not others? Seems rather arbitrary, don't you think?
Also, one more question:
What did Jesus say about homosexuality?
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