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Discussion: Fat shaming - wrong or right? READ THE OP.
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I think it's wrong to judge people based on their appearance because there are people who actually are doing so much but they just can't do something about it. But lazy fat people needs to take action not because of their appearance but for health reasons.
I was very fat before and I am not really ashamed of it but when it started to take a toll on my health, I really did change not for my appearance but for my over-all well being. It's alright to be fat and it's their choice but when people ask you to change your lifestyle, you shouldn't be offended rather be motivated to change for the sake of your well-being.
I don't really like people who gallops a big mac and says "love me for who I am". Yes we love you for who you are but everyone knows that someday when you're older and wont be as active and strong as you were before, you'd realize that you should have acted earlier. People shouldn't take it as an insult but as a challenge to change for the better.
A 30 minute exercise and not binging on Big Macs makes a big difference. I'm not saying you can't eat Big Macs as I do eat them ocassionally but at least try and eat healthier. I LOVE eating and I know how hard it is to stop eating tasty food.. You CAN enjoy them but not too much. Food should not be treated as pleasure but as a necessity.
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Originally posted by I Am Music
!!! There is a reason low income people are more likely to be overweight.
There is also the issue of not being able to find markets that have fresh foods in their area for lower prices. Some are not even taught on what are the best things to have.
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I completely agree.
The interesting thing is that my grandmother was raised initially without supermarkets and modern conveniences and she grew up eating foods that she grew. However once she moved to the city she was 'sold' urban conveniences like fast food and pre-packaged goods. So even though she knew how good healthier, natural, choices were, the appeal of fast food and etc. is always there.
Bleuwaffle's comment ignores the fact that these corporations, like McDonald's and Coca-Cola, hire and pay millions of dollars a year to top Psychologists to advertise things that are horrible for you and put ideas of these things as being good and NECESSARY for your day to day life so DEEP into your subconscious that it is almost impossible for you to stop consuming them.
There is a business "engine" in society and higher power that is powering American overconsumption and taking no responsibility for the terrible problems they are causing for people on the poverty line. Instead, they are raking in billions and more and more people are falling prey.
By the time we are old enough to realize that these modern conveniences may be bad for us, we've already been duped into an addiction and think that they are "okay" to have.
I mean, what is this:
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by jomarr
I think it's wrong to judge people based on their appearance because there are people who actually are doing so much but they just can't do something about it. But lazy fat people needs to take action not because of their appearance but for health reasons.
I was very fat before and I am not really ashamed of it but when it started to take a toll on my health, I really did change not for my appearance but for my over-all well being. It's alright to be fat and it's their choice but when people ask you to change your lifestyle, you shouldn't be offended rather be motivated to change for the sake of your well-being.
I don't really like people who gallops a big mac and says "love me for who I am". Yes we love you for who you are but everyone knows that someday when you're older and wont be as active and strong as you were before, you'd realize that you should have acted earlier. People shouldn't take it as an insult but as a challenge to change for the better.
A 30 minute exercise and not binging on Big Macs makes a big difference. I'm not saying you can't eat Big Macs as I do eat them ocassionally but at least try and eat healthier. I LOVE eating and I know how hard it is to stop eating tasty food.. You CAN enjoy them but not too much. Food should not be treated as pleasure but as a necessity.
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Yes, it's wrong 
Making someone feel bad about their bodies - under the guise of telling them to be healthier/lose weight - is a horrible thing. Worry about yourself and not what someone else is doing
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Member Since: 11/26/2010
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Originally posted by I Am Music
!!! There is a reason low income people are more likely to be overweight.
There is also the issue of not being able to find markets that have fresh foods in their area for lower prices. Some are not even taught on what are the best things to have.
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Which is why health education is key. Fruits, vegetables and whole grains.
And the money thing is ********. Medical expenses are going to cost more in the long run.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Originally posted by maiko
I completely agree.
The interesting thing is that my grandmother was raised initially without supermarkets and modern conveniences and she grew up eating foods that she grew. However once she moved to the city she was 'sold' urban conveniences like fast food and pre-packaged goods. So even though she knew how good healthier, natural, choices were, the appeal of fast food and etc. is always there.
Bleuwaffle's comment ignores the fact that these corporations, like McDonald's and Coca-Cola, hire and pay millions of dollars a year to top Psychologists to advertise things that are horrible for you and put ideas of these things as being good and NECESSARY for your day to day life so DEEP into your subconscious that it is almost impossible for you to stop consuming them.
There is a business "engine" in society and higher power that is powering American overconsumption and taking no responsibility for the terrible problems they are causing for people on the poverty line. Instead, they are raking in billions and more and more people are falling prey.
By the time we are old enough to realize that these modern conveniences may be bad for us, we've already been duped into an addiction and think that they are "okay" to have.
I mean, what is this:
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I wish I could print this and put it on my wall.
Truth is unhealthy foods have appeal due to the lower cost.
And as much as I love to eat healthy I can't buy certain things at times due to them being so expensive.
It's easy to say x y and z when you have the privilege of being able to eat healthy but a mom of 3 is trying to find the most affordable thing possible.
This is not rocket science.
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Originally posted by I Am Music
I wish I could print this and put it on my wall.
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Right click > Save Image As
Then you can open it in the program of your choice and choose the print settings, also a copy will be saved on your computer for future use.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
Which is why health education is key. Fruits, vegetables and whole grains.
And the money thing is ********. Medical expenses are going to cost more in the long run.
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No it's not ********, I suggest you look up lower income people who try to eat healthy but do not have the resources to do so.
You can continue to put your head in the sand if you want doesn't erase facts.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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all shaming is wrong
if you want to help somebody, help them...don't make them feel bad about themselves
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Member Since: 2/4/2014
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Originally posted by Sam Jay
Let people be fat if they want to be fat, like seriously. If it's not affecting you, then it's not really any of your business to tell others what they should do, eat, or look like. Even if it is in their so called "best interest".
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Originally posted by maiko
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don't you have drinkable tap water in the us? (curious, as i know some countries don't)
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Originally posted by Goosey
Right click > Save Image As
Then you can open it in the program of your choice and choose the print settings, also a copy will be saved on your computer for future use.
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Was that supposed to be clever? because I didn't laugh. Don't go off topic.
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Member Since: 11/26/2010
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Originally posted by I Am Music
No it's not ********, I suggest you look up lower income people who try to eat healthy but do not have the resources to do so.
You can continue to put your head in the sand if you want doesn't erase facts.
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So medical bills are cheaper long term than eating healthy? 
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Originally posted by Sasha Pieterse
don't you have drinkable tap water in the us? (curious, as i know some countries don't)
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Tap water here is terrible especially in West Virginia so most US citizens drink filtered water.
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Originally posted by Sasha Pieterse
don't you have drinkable tap water in the us? (curious, as i know some countries don't)
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Yes but I'm bourgeois 
My city maybe has the best tap water in the nation, but I still don't trust it because of my own reasons that may be a little esoteric but I don't think they are unfounded. I used to drink tap water a lot as a kid, though.
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Originally posted by bleuwaffle
So medical bills are cheaper long term than eating healthy? |
You're doing exactly what I thought you would do. You're trying to pull a strawman and I wont take the bait.
If you're going to try and misrepresent what I am trying to say to make your point seem more right then there is no point in discussing further.
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Member Since: 11/26/2010
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Originally posted by I Am Music
You're doing exactly what I thought you would do. You're trying to pull a strawman and I wont take the bait.
If you're going to try and misrepresent what I am trying to say to make your point seem more right then there is no point in discussing further.
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Okay, let's let them get sick and die then. Forget educating them. Since it's sooo much better and cheaper to be unhealthily overweight.
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Member Since: 4/25/2011
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Originally posted by I Am Music
No it's not ********, I suggest you look up lower income people who try to eat healthy but do not have the resources to do so.
You can continue to put your head in the sand if you want doesn't erase facts.
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I don't know about the US (or whatever country you live in) but with the money I spend on a Big Mac, I can buy 1 KG of Chicken Breast. That's like 10 pieces of skinless chicken breast. Very easy to cook.
Vegetables aren't also expensive. I prefer on making my meals than buying them outside. Time is a major constraint but if you're picking up a Big Mac or a Whopper for dinner, might as well just grill skinless chicken and stir up some mixed veggies then partner it with whole grain bread or rice. All of them are very easy to cook. Although during Lunch I have no choice but to buy food outside. I make my breakfast and dinner. During breakfast I usually eat eggs, milk and oats or whole cereal and a fruit.
Save the extravagant cooking for the weekends. Stop the soda. I also don't know if it's safe to drink tap water in your country but in ours it's totally safe and I doubt that bottled water is the median price for a bottled water in the US. AquaFina has always been expensive along with Evian that costs 50 PHP (1.40 USD) in my country. Bottled water usually costs around 5-20 PHP (.14-.40 cents) here.
If you make an effort, you actually can. Exercise? Gym is expensive. You can jog for thirty minutes a day and it wont cost you a single dime.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Originally posted by jomarr
I don't know about the US (or whatever country you live in) but with the money I spend on a Big Mac, I can buy 1 KG of Chicken Breast. That's like 10 pieces of skinless chicken breast. Very easy to cook.
Vegetables aren't also expensive. I prefer on making my meals than buying them outside. Time is a major constraint but if you're picking up a Big Mac or a Whopper for dinner, might as well just grill skinless chicken and stir up some mixed veggies then partner it with whole grain bread or rice. All of them are very easy to cook.
Save the extravagant cooking for the weekends. Stop the soda. I also don't know if it's safe to drink tap water in your country but in ours it's totally safe and I doubt that bottled water is the median price for a bottled water in the US. AquaFina has always been expensive along with Evian that costs 50 PHP (1.40 USD) in my country. Bottled water usually costs around 5-20 PHP (.14-.40 cents) here.
If you make an effort, you actually can. Exercise? Gym is expensive. You can jog for thirty minutes a day and it wont cost you a single dime.
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Right, I think it's easier for single households to do this. I mean families who are on a tight budget who try to find the best deals in healthy foods.
I agree that sodas should be on a tight constraint but companies here in the US price them so low it looks appealing. Unfortunately this country doesn't do enough to encourage healthy eating.
It would be pointless to go out and jog when all you're buying is stuff that will make you gain weight. Especially if you're not educated on calorie,sodium and sugar intake.
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Hunger in America is complicated. It's not just getting enough food, but getting the right food — and making the right choices.
Connie Williamson says it's not easy on a tight budget. She spends hours driving around each month looking for deals. She has to stretch $600 in food stamps for herself, her husband, Alex and two teenage girls.
“ You can get leaner cuts of meat, but then they're more expensive. You can get fresh fruit every couple of days and blow half of your budget on fresh fruits and vegetables in a week's time, easy.
- Connie Williamson
"You can get leaner cuts of meat, but then they're more expensive," she says. "You can get fresh fruit every couple of days and blow half of your budget on fresh fruits and vegetables in a week's time, easy."
The Williamsons live well below the poverty line. And in the family's struggle to obtain enough food, nutrition sometimes takes a back seat to necessity. There's often a tug of war between the best intentions and some not-so-good eating.
For example, the Williamsons have a garden behind their apartment in downtown Carlisle. They grow lots of healthy food — zucchini, peppers and Brussels sprouts. But when Alex was thirsty after a walk, his mother gave him a plastic water bottle filled with orange soda.
Elaine Livas, who runs Project SHARE, the local food pantry, says she sees it all time.
"A gallon of milk is $3-something. A bottle of orange soda is 89 cents," she says. "Do the math."
Livas says low-income families might know milk is better for their kids, but when it comes to filling a hungry stomach, a cheaper high-calorie option can look pretty good.
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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=128621057
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