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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016
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Originally posted by KimmyBella
So who is revealing what tomorrow? 
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Um some sketchy stuff about Trump is coming out. Hillary is good for now.
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Originally posted by King Maxx
You missed the entire point. Hillary's platform NOW will create jobs and increase wages. Even if she did go back to 90s politics, that's still Bill policies that worked as well. Trump's policies NOW have been checked by many economists who already said we will face a worse deal than '08.
As far as foreign policy goes, you can disagree with her policies but she isn't actively running a campaign advocating for nuking half of the world's population. The hell??? Sometimes you people can make no damn sense.
Hillary is miles more competent than Trump. I can say Bernie's policies would be a disaster, but I would still vote for him over Trump. Anyone even sitting this out and letting Trump ruin the world, and yes it's that drastic, is really hard to respect at this point.
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Did you not read my post? I said they are both bad for the economy and foreign affairs. I didn't say Trump wasn't harmful. But how can you call him serious? This is the same man who said he would punish women for getting abortions. He only says what he thinks will make him popular in the moment.
What Bill policy? Did NAFTA work "well"?
At the end of the day, being better than Trump doesn't really say much. This election is essentially like being raped and the only choice you have if wether or not lube is used. Nonetheless, y'all all ****ed, so I don't see how that matters.

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Originally posted by Javan
Did you not read my post? I said they are both bad for the economy and foreign affairs. I didn't say Trump wasn't harmful. But how can you call him serious? This is the same man who said he would punish women for getting abortions. He only says what he thinks will make him popular in the moment.
What Bill policy? Did NAFTA work "well"?
At the end of the day, being better than Trump doesn't really say much. This election is essentially like being raped and the only choice you have if wether or not lube is used. Nonetheless, y'all all ****ed, so I don't see how that matters.

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That's your opinion. Very wrong by the way, but I'll let you have it.
It's just facts that Hillary won't destroy international relations and push millions into poverty. That's her record. That's the Democratic record. But whatever you believe go ahead.
Sometimes I actually do wish Trump wins so we can see how much damage he would do to not only us but dozens of countries for generations. We won't ever be able to repair. I think that's actually what you people want. If I'm being grossly generalistic  , I think Trump and Bernie supporters want to disrupt the political and economic order that out democracy was built on.
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So I'm guessing if Trump gets elected all the republican congressmen who ridiculed him will do a 180 and fall in line with his agenda? And will the Democrats cooperate again like they did with Bush, or will they become obstructionistic? Will they even have the power to fight Trump? You tryna tell me it's game over? That's what I wanna know.

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Originally posted by Javan
So I'm guessing if Trump gets elected all the republican congressmen who ridiculed him will do a 180 and fall in line with his agenda? And will the Democrats cooperate again like they did with Bush, or will they become obstructionistic? Will they even have the power to fight Trump? You tryna tell me it's game over? That's what I wanna know.

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Bush was a disaster with his policies. Trump will work with them on some things that will erase the progress of Obama. Let's start there. So already are we ****ed if we let any Republican have the presidency, Congress, and Supreme Court. We haven't seen that ever in our life times. Then you have the nukes, which I'm still scared he will try to use. Plus he's cozy with Putin and Kim Jung Un. Another big disaster.
But a president goes beyond signing bills, his presidency will be a symbol that we embraced the bigotry we fought against in the last century. That will trickle down to our kids, our allies, and fuel our enemies even more. Presidents also have bumped up their executive orders and a GOP SCOTUS he appoints will def uphold them.
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NeverTrump GOP will do his bidding, yes. They'll shut up the second he's inaugurated.
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Originally posted by King Maxx
That's your opinion. Very wrong by the way, but I'll let you have it.
It's just facts that Hillary won't destroy international relations and push millions into poverty. That's her record. That's the Democratic record. But whatever you believe go ahead.
Sometimes I actually do wish Trump wins so we can see how much damage he would do to not only us but dozens of countries for generations. We won't ever be able to repair. I think that's actually what you people want. If I'm being grossly generalistic  , I think Trump and Bernie supporters want to disrupt the political and economic order that out democracy was built on.
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That's her record HOW? You are yet to explain this. I'm honestly baffled by your steadfastness.
Her record? NAFTA had millions of Americans lost for jobs and consequently in poverty. Have you seen the state of Baltimore?
Or let's talk about to what extent the Iraq war destabilised the Middle East, but "she won't ruin international relations", ok gurl. With the Libya mess she supported spilling into Syria, "she won't ruin international relations". ****, Libya was the country with the highest standard of living in Africa before the coup. Look at it now, a fail state.
And then that last statement. Lmao you truly are a TRIP. Because the political and economic order for democracy the founding fathers had in mind consisted of corporations choosing candidates and buying politicians, so 1% of the American population could own 50% of the capital. That is HILARIOUS. Honestly. Truly.

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Originally posted by King Maxx
Bush was a disaster with his policies. Trump will work with them on some things that will erase the progress of Obama. Let's start there. So already are we ****ed if we let any Republican have the presidency, Congress, and Supreme Court. We haven't seen that ever in our life times. Then you have the nukes, which I'm still scared he will try to use. Plus he's cozy with Putin and Kim Jung Un. Another big disaster.
But a president goes beyond signing bills, his presidency will be a symbol that we embraced the bigotry we fought against in the last century. That will trickle down to our kids, our allies, and fuel our enemies even more. Presidents also have bumped up their executive orders and a GOP SCOTUS he appoints will def uphold them.
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You think Congress will remain Republican?
And isn't Hillary taking money from Saudi Arabia? The state implicated in 9/11. That don't sound too cute to me either.
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The Senate could flip Democratic, but the House will most likely remain Republican.
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I'd imgane the DNC probably put off a lot of democrat voters with their tactics this year. I guess they didn't really consider the long term consequences.
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The fact Trump supporters are going around wearing "deplorable" t-shirts and changing their usernames to deplorable, etc.  What dumbasses.
Hillary won.
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The media keep writing that Missouri is the one to watch. Polls for the Prez and downticket are all over the place:
The picture is a bit more mixed in Missouri. In July, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch had Clinton leading, 41-40, though a poll by Remington Research last week showed Trump with a comfortable advantage over Clinton among likely voters, 47-38.
GOP/Democratic Senators are only 4 points apart in the last poll and that was before millions started pouring in for ads from both sides.
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Harry Reid: Trump's Not Slim and Trim
Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid ripped Donald Trump Tuesday for being overweight and eating too much fast food, charging that the media "magnified" Hillary Clinton's recent bout with pneumonia.
"She has pneumonia and, well, you know, it's curable," Reid said flatly at a news conference. "She's off the campaign trail for a few days. She probably needed the rest anyway. So you folks have magnified it."
He urged reporters to turn their lenses to Trump's health instead.
"Take a look at this character that's running for president. He complains about her health. What does he do? He's 70 years old. He's not slim and trim. He brags about eating fast food every day. Look at his health a little bit," Reid said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/13/politi...rim/index.html
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New Poll: Hillary +42 Among Jewish Likely Voters
Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton has a large lead over Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump among Jewish voters, according to a poll released Tuesday.
Clinton has a 42-point advantage over her Republican rival in a four-way matchup, according to the poll conducted by the research company SSRS for the American Jewish Committee. The Democratic nominee is favored by 61 percent of Jewish voters, Trump is backed by 19 percent of those polled.
In the matchup, Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson has the support of 6 percent of Jewish voters and Green Party nominee Jill Stein is backed by 3 percent. Another 8 percent said they will not vote.
The alt-right is fuming in the comments section of this The Hill article 
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Local newspapers have had it with McCrory costing the state millions:

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This Powell leak is a mess of a mixed bag.
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My people slaying.

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That Latino poll was the result of a Democratic and Republican firm working together to poll people
Adios, Trump!
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Ready for that surprise Missouri win. Ground game better be working hard right now.
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Puerto Ricans are on their way to surpass Cubans and become the largest population group of Latinos in Florida by 2020, according to a new report from Hispanic Federation and the ratings company Nielsen.
Currently, about 1 million Puerto Ricans live in the Sunshine State. From 2000 to 2014, the number of Puerto Ricans increased by 94 percent, while the number of Cubans in Florida increased by 60 percent. Orange County alone contains 18 percent of the Puerto Rican population of Florida.
 Also most are young (18-34) 
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