[KingOfUrbanPop]

Originally posted by Djbrian

If that is true then Bey wouldn't need the GP with a enormous fan base like that lol

Right they just makes the Hive look POWERFUL enough to have Bey gross over 300 MILLION in like no time

[50thStateofMind]

lol, they tried EVERYTHING and still flopped...sorry haters.

[Trent W]

Originally posted by KingOfUrbanPop

Right they just makes the Hive look POWERFUL enough to have Bey gross over 300 MILLION in like no time

Jay Z grossed the half of it don't discredit him, and all main pop acts fan bases can make the artist bank about gross those hundred millions is normal for established acts

[ally23]

Originally posted by Trent W

Jay Z grossed the half of it don't discredit him, and all main pop acts fan bases can make the artist bank about gross those hundred millions is normal for established acts

Mostly for bey.. or Doesnt matter.. BEYONCE still did at least 50-55m with 19 dates..

Bown down Queen B!

[Timber]

Originally posted by PULSE.

We can talk about her record sales, her Billboard achievements (one being female ARTIST of the decade) and we can also talk about her movies, FORBES, Grammys, tours, fragrances, TIME, Her Universal Acclaim, her brand etc. It's not her fault she's successful in all fields.

Ugh. She's so succesful.

[Havoc]

Originally posted by Trent W

They usually don't

....and you would know this how? You think the only people that go to concerts are stans?

It doesn't explain why her tour with *targeted fans only* is grossing MORE than the *real* global girls with both *targeted fans* and "the GP" on their side.

[patapon]

Originally posted by Trent W

Obviously in the US everyone knows that she sings, but in other countries there is a lot of people that come with those kind of phrases. She needs to start getting hits so people know that she sings in other countries.

IDK... she's pretty famous where I live. Everybody knows CIL, Single Ladies, and even her flop Love on Top. Keep trying tho

[lonnie]

Originally posted by idkher

Her celebrity status and commercial success aren't proportionate. You would think someone who has built up such a larger-than-life celebrity persona over the past 15 years would have a bit more music success to her name. Beyonce SEEMS like one of the biggest artists of all time... but when you look at the stats..

Incredibly on point

[lonnie]

She's sold the least records this decade out of the "big girls" like Taylor, Rihanna, Gaga and Katy but she's as big if not bigger than some of them in terms of celebrity status

[patapon]

I'm laughing at this thread tbh. Haters just can't get enough of her

[patapon]

Originally posted by lonnie

She's sold the least records this decade out of the "big girls" like Taylor, Rihanna, Gaga and Katy but she's as big if not bigger than some of them in terms of celebrity status

15 years in the industry honey, you can't expect her to top every year-end charts, can you?

[OnlyManInTheWorld]

Lol @ this thread. Knowles has everything: name, money, popular husband, producers, brand. She's like a factory, industry itself. Yet her sales numbers are not that amazing when you look at them and compare with her fellow pop girls. People are not interested in her as much as you think. She is ubiquitous in media whether we like it or not. She may not attend big galas or do many interviews, but her marketing team makes people talk about her family problems (which do not exist, we all know that), baby Blue and everything. If Knowles was an artist, her success would be far bigger compared to her celebrity status. People just don't care that much. I aint saying she does not have fans, but we non-fans consider her a factory. We go to her shows for a show, to see what's the result of the money invested in her tour, for visual effects. She can sing, not perfectly, but definitely can. But it takes more to become an artist. Knowles, so far, is a celebrity.

[QueenBeyoncé]

Girls, still mad because their faves are one trick ponies and Beyonce isn't?


No. 1 albums
No. 1 singles
No. 1 tours
No.1 Films
No.1 Dvds
No.1 Film dvds
No.1 Fragrances
Huge endorsements
No.1 on TIME
No.1 on Forbes
etc.

Your faves can't say the same.

Every area Beyonce has had success in

[lonnie]

Originally posted by patapon

15 years in the industry honey, you can't expect her to top every year-end charts, can you?

Well it's clear that her celebrity status got bigger this decade and you can't deny that. It's just that she's a very big celebrity when she's least successful in her career. And even in the peak of her career she was never the biggest seller, that's where idkher's point comes to play. She's had a very successful career overall but she's currently a bigger celebrity than a musician nowadays

[QueenBeyoncé]

Originally posted by lonnie

Well it's clear that her celebrity status got bigger this decade and you can't deny that. It's just that she's a very big celebrity when she's least successful in her career. And even in the peak of her career she was never the biggest seller, that's where idkher's point comes to play. She's had a very successful career overall but she's currently a bigger celebrity than a musician nowadays

She has sold over 200 million records. Named most grammy nods for a female artist in history.

[PULSE.]

Are we still mad that Beyonce has impact outside of the billboard charts? And your fave doesn't?

Some girls have it, and some don't

[OnlyManInTheWorld]

Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé

She has sold over 200 million records. Named most grammy nods for a female artist in history.

Grammys don't mean a thing, she records safe music, award-friendly. The thing is she never set trends when it comes to music, even her "iconic" Single Ladies video was not an original idea.

[Trent W]

Originally posted by OnlyManInTheWorld

Lol @ this thread. Knowles has everything: name, money, popular husband, producers, brand. She's like a factory, industry itself. Yet her sales numbers are not that amazing when you look at them and compare with her fellow pop girls. People are not interested in her as much as you think. She is ubiquitous in media whether we like it or not. She may not attend big galas or do many interviews, but her marketing team makes people talk about her family problems (which do not exist, we all know that), baby Blue and everything. If Knowles was an artist, her success would be far bigger compared to her celebrity status. People just don't care that much. I aint saying she does not have fans, but we non-fans consider her a factory. We go to her shows for a show, to see what's the result of the money invested in her tour, for visual effects. She can sing, not perfectly, but definitely can. But it takes more to become an artist. Knowles, so far, is a celebrity.

You are always right when it comes to Beyoncé

[lonnie]

Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé

She has sold over 200 million records. Named most grammy nods for a female artist in history.

Go through my post I said she has a very successful career overall but that she hasn't been as successful as she was in the past this decade for instance using your Grammy example, she's only won one Grammy this decade compared to her 16 she had the last decade.
And she hasn't sold 200 million records
Not even with DC

[PULSE.]

Why is Beyonce the most honored Musician today?