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Discussion: Can you be gay and still be devoted to a religion?
Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by BILLIONAIRE✘BOY
I thought they said it was an abomination or whatever  Have I been feed the wrong information? |
Yep. I went to a Catholic Church for like 15 years every Sunday (I don't really believe in religion now tbh, I'm more of a spiritual, karma kind of person), but reading the bible it states that being gay isn't a sin.
Just like its a sin to have sex before marriage, gay people still have to follow that. There's been a major reform in the church regarding that and trying to educate priests and church goers that being gay isn't a sin. But it's tough when you literally have hundreds of years of being fed wrong information.
Down South though when you get into Baptist and all that, they hate gays, can't help ya there.
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Member Since: 3/2/2014
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Originally posted by BILLIONAIRE✘BOY
So why is being gay worse than lying?
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Who said it was? I didn't say that it was or it wasn't.
You see, lying to people could hurt your relationship with them, and make bad things happen, while being gay hurts your relationship with God.
When you hurt someone, and you repent, God may forgive you, but the person who you've hurt may not. That counts too, because you've done nothing towards God. (except break the rules, but if you repent, He may forgive you)
Sorry for my English, I don't feel like I'm explaining it well.
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
It's not your job to say that.
"Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you shall be forgiven. And judge not, and ye shall not be judged; condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned."
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So people who are homophobic because the Bible are going to Hell?
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Member Since: 3/2/2014
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
It's not your job to say that.
"Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you shall be forgiven. And judge not, and ye shall not be judged; condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned."
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Yeah, I came off as rude while saying that but those weren't my intentions. I was actually trying to help them.
Of course God may forgive you, no one knows.
Sorry.
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by iHype.
So people who are homophobic because the Bible are going to Hell?
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I don't think the concept of hell is as cut and dry as people are led to believe. Heaven, hell, these are concepts that people have tried to rationalize throughout the year of religion - I don't think they're "places," nor something that we can really comprehend.
I certainly don't think homophobia a good thing, though.
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Why does the Bible have all these LOOPH0LES tho?
First homosexuals condemned, then anyone can be forgived -- first you need to guide people under God, then you shall not judge anyone?
Like am I going to Heaven or Hell? Stop giving me these loopholes, I want the TEA.
All this contradictory ain't proving NO point at the end of the day.
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by iHype.
Why does the Bible have all these LOOPH0LES tho?
First homosexuals condemned, then anyone can be forgived -- first you need to guide people under God, then you shall not judge anyone?
Like am I going to Heaven or Hell? Stop giving me these loopholes, I want the TEA.
All this contradictory ain't proving NO point at the end of the day.
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Just be a good person. Be kind and love people. Give advice when it is asked for and listen to people. Try to be as honest as you can. Feel HAPPY.
That's advice for anyone - atheist, agnostic, religious, etc.
It's a personal relationship - there are some great lessons taught in the Bible, and some not so much.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Giacobbe
Yep. I went to a Catholic Church for like 15 years every Sunday (I don't really believe in religion now tbh, I'm more of a spiritual, karma kind of person), but reading the bible it states that being gay isn't a sin.
Just like its a sin to have sex before marriage, gay people still have to follow that. There's been a major reform in the church regarding that and trying to educate priests and church goers that being gay isn't a sin. But it's tough when you literally have hundreds of years of being fed wrong information.
Down South though when you get into Baptist and all that, they hate gays, can't help ya there.
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We have different Bibles then , no point in arguing there
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
Just be a good person. Be kind and love people. Give advice when it is asked for and listen to people. Try to be as honest as you can. Feel HAPPY.
That's advice for anyone - atheist, agnostic, religious, etc.
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Ch. I ain't got time for all that now.
You get what you get from me. I ain't here for a have it your way.
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by BabyCantYouSee
They are making a gay mosque here in Toronto.  |
That's fantastic news!
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Member Since: 10/27/2006
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
Following a religion does not equate to "being an idiot" in any sense and that's incredibly judgmental for you to say.
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Well, you think some dude created us, everyone should believe what they want, don't you think?
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by iHype.
Ch. I ain't got time for all that now.
You get what you get from me. I ain't here for a have it your way.
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Just be a nice person.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I refuse to believe in a god that wouldn't accept me as i am.
So i said goodbye to religion like 3 years ago, and i feel much better tbh
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
Just be a nice person. |
That's still asking too much.
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Originally posted by Losing my ground
Well, you think some dude created us, everyone should believe what they want, don't you think?
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God isn't "some dude" in my eyes.
But the fact is, it's judgmental; just as it would be judgmental for me to declare that you're going to hell for being an atheist.
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by Eric.
Regarding Christianity I wouldn't suggest it, they won't fully welcome you. You may abide by most of the values and rules of Christianity (which most people don't even know and follow unless you go to mass every sunday), but the community will turn their backs on you when you openly have a partner of the same sex that you wanna go to church with and stuff. |
I've been to many Christian churches that fully accept me as a gay man. 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
God isn't "some dude" in my eyes.
But the fact is, it's judgmental; just as it would be judgmental for me to declare that you're going to hell for being an atheist.
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Oh it's ok you don't have to do that, preachers already take care of informing everybody pretty much everyday
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Member Since: 10/27/2006
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
God isn't "some dude" in my eyes.
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For me it is. Isn't that great, all the human's points of view when it comes to non-fact things?
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
But the fact is, it's judgmental; just as it would be judgmental for me to declare that you're going to hell for being an atheist.
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I wouldn't be bother tbh, hell sounds like a lot more fun  
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Member Since: 8/29/2012
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Since Christians all talk to Gawd and stuff, just ask him if he minds.
If he answers, you're fine. If he doesn't, I'm sorry but you have a problem.
JK. Of course you can, you have your moral values and if you're good and feeling fine, just enjoy.
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