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NY Daily: Hip-Hop is "White Hot"
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Originally posted by tittieslap
Actually, Pop stations removing rap verses from songs isn't a race thing. It's a format thing. I live in New York and some of the Pop and Hot AC stations play "Problem" without Iggy's verses. Same with Dark Horse, E.T., Cali Gurls etc. They also love playing Jay-Z and give some airplay to hits on Rhythmic, so that theory doesn't make sense. Some stations feel like they turn off listeners by playing music from another format that doesn't really fit in too well. It's the same reason why very plain ballads and country songs are remixed to hopefully generate better appeal on pop.
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Refer to the early 2000s & see the top songs on pop. That's what the discussion is about.
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Originally posted by 91Winchester
So happy for hip-hop finally diversifying and allowing people of all colours to succeed. 
Now, it's time for the likes of Sammy Adams and Hoodie Allen to rise and take advantage of much friendlier conditions to their success. |
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Originally posted by NewRihannaStan
First who is G-Eazy ?? Like I'm seriously do not know who this is ..
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Started to discover him this week. In love with his high quality vids and amazing tracks.
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Originally posted by KareBear
I bop to Fancy hardcore though idk why  . |
I love Fancy as well!  But it is a bit unfair and suspicious that there have been dozens of songs similar to Fancy by black people which did nothing on pop radio, but when two white girls do this kind of song it shoots to #1. Everybody says Fancy has a catchy chorus, which is true, but I can show people dozens of these kind of songs by black people which also have catchy choruses.
However, Trey Songz and Tinashe are both getting some pop airplay atm with their Fancy-style songs, so I hope pop radio will be more open to them in the future.
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Member Since: 3/7/2014
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Iggy worked hard for her success. It doesn't shock me that she opened doors for female rappers in the way Lauryn Hill and Nicki Minaj did. White or black, that's what I call an inspiration.
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Originally posted by BrooklynBoy
Refer to the early 2000s & see the top songs on pop. That's what the discussion is about.
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That was a time when Pop and Hip-Hop sort of switched places in popularity. What about it?
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by 91Winchester
Iggy worked hard for her success. It doesn't shock me that she opened doors for female rappers in the way Lauryn Hill and Nicki Minaj did. White or black, that's what I call an inspiration. |
Always the one twink that has to troll in a thread having a serious discussion about the social inequalities in the world, & trivializes the issue.
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Member Since: 6/10/2011
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Originally posted by tittieslap
Actually, Pop stations removing rap verses from songs isn't a race thing. It's a format thing. I live in New York and some of the Pop and Hot AC stations play "Problem" without Iggy's verses. Same with Dark Horse, E.T., Cali Gurls etc. They also love playing Jay-Z and give some airplay to hits on Rhythmic, so that theory doesn't make sense. Some stations feel like they turn off listeners by playing music from another format that doesn't really fit in too well. It's the same reason why very plain ballads and country songs are remixed to hopefully generate better appeal on pop.
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Pop stations traditionally play Top 40, or what's popular. So when you're not playing Drunk In Love (the #2 song in the country), yet you're playing some pop song by some white artist that's barely Top 20, that's a problem. When you're editing nearly all of Jay's verses out of his own song (Holy Grail) so you can have JT be the whole song, that's a problem.
Again, I'm just speaking on what my local stations have done, but y'all cannot tell me that pop radio uses Hip-Hop music from black artists. Or, at least, not like they do from white artists.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by tittieslap
That was a time when Pop and Hip-Hop sort of switched places in popularity. What about it?
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Ok so pop radio wasn't hesitant to play the records then. Rap can be popular if it received pop support
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Originally posted by 91Winchester
Iggy worked hard for her success. It doesn't shock me that she opened doors for female rappers in the way Lauryn Hill and Nicki Minaj did. White or black, that's what I call an inspiration. |
Uh.. Que?
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Member Since: 11/10/2011
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Originally posted by 91Winchester
Iggy worked hard for her success. It doesn't shock me that she opened doors for female rappers in the way Lauryn Hill and Nicki Minaj did. White or black, that's what I call an inspiration. |
I don't think anybody is denying Iggy works hard. Every artist does, white or black.
I guarantee you, if someone like Jhene Aiko or Sevyn Streeter released Fancy, it would not have gone #1 on pop. Probably not even top 20.
I don't hold anything against Iggy, I actually like her a lot. If you go through the old threads for her songs you'll see me praising her. But the truth is, I don't think she'd be #1 right now if she were black, she'd be limited to rhythmic and urban radio (just like how Nicki Minaj's new Dr. Luke produced single and Beyonce's new Sia written single are not charting top 50 on pop yet for some reason).
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“Whiteness is actually becoming an advantage,”
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Originally posted by MM3
Pop stations traditionally play Top 40, or what's popular. So when you're not playing Drunk In Love (the #2 song in the country), yet you're playing some pop song by some white artist that's barely Top 20, that's a problem. When you're editing nearly all of Jay's verses out of his own song (Holy Grail) so you can have JT be the whole song, that's a problem.
Again, I'm just speaking on what my local stations have done, but y'all cannot tell me that pop radio uses Hip-Hop music from black artists. Or, at least, not like they do from white artists.
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But you can't just say that an entire format does what one radio station in America does. There are many stations that actually do try to help hits on Rhythmic and sometimes Urban take off on their format.
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Originally posted by BrooklynBoy
Ok so pop radio wasn't hesitant to play the records then. Rap can be popular if it received pop support
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In theory, Top 40 is supposed to play what's popular. But they obviously stick to things with easy comprehension, not too dirty to the point where half the song is censored, catchy and is simple enough to relate to listeners. I think that a lot of Hip Hop songs are either too dirty, are not promoted to Pop in the first place, or just don't fit the mold for Pop. Those are just my observations. I don't think it's that much of a race thing. Pop also curves lots of songs on other formats as well.
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Originally posted by BrooklynBoy
Always the one twink that has to troll in a thread having a serious discussion about the social inequalities in the world, & trivializes the issue.
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I don't deny there are social inequalities in the world, but does that mean we make small the accomplishments of people like Macklemore or Iggy just because they are white? Race should never be a factor in considering a person's worth or talent. In fact, Iggy should be praised because hip-hop is much more misogynistic than it is racist.
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LOL at people thinking that white people are living for Iggy's verses when they hear her on their local Top 40 station. Everyone knows that the reason why that song is a hit is because of Charli's CHORUS and HOOK.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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G-Easy is whack, if he blows up we'll know it's cuz he's white. He is literally a copy+paste of Drake+Future. It's like he didn't even try to make his own sound.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by 91Winchester
So happy for hip-hop finally diversifying and allowing people of all colours to succeed. |
White isn't even a color. It's literally the absence of all color. 
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by konaa
White isn't even a color. It's literally the absence of all color. |
And also seasoning
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by konaa
White isn't even a color. It's literally the absence of all color. |
No it isn't. It's the combinations of all colors.
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