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Originally posted by Alchemist
500k is on par with 1.8 million? ARTPOP outsold BJ's total sales in its first week but wow, I guess they're definitely on par
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Nnnng @ your counting abilities.
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Originally posted by Rihinvention
I was born in 1992 so I was 8 in 2000.
And what you just posted literally had nothing to do with my comment. I was talking about female pop stars sharing the limelight for these "new Queen of Pop" and "new Princess of Pop" titles. I have no idea why you started ranting about Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Limp Bizkit, Eminem, The Backstreet Boys, Cher and Blink 182. They have nothing to do with what I was talking about.
When I say there was less competition, I don't mean Britney Spears was the only person in the music industry. It wasn't like in 1998 the newspaper articles were "BREAKING NEWS: TEEN GIRL BRITNEY SPEARS HAS REDISCOVERED 'MUSIC.' THE WORLD REJOICES." When I said there was less competition, I was strictly speaking about young, hot, marketable female pop stars.
I'm on your side. I'm saying part of why Britney Spears was so huge is because she became the first Princess of Pop. She was huge. Her debut was so huge that, as you said, it inspired the blueprint of teen stars like Christina Aguilera and Jessica Simpson. Not to mention it inspired all the current girls today like Miley, Ariana, Rihanna, Katy, Selena, Gaga, etc.
And as for your last point...I mean, that's just ridiculous. You cannot compare sales in the late 90s to sales of 2014 because of one of the biggest inventions in all of human history:
The internet.
The late 90s were the last era where buying CDs was huge. There is not "less competition" in the industry in 2014 because of declining sales. The industry has not shrunk because of declining sales. Sales have declined because teenagers and young people download their music illegally, stream it on apps like Spotify and even just listen to it on Youtube, whether it be Youtube on their computer or Youtube on their smartphone. You don't honestly believe that teenagers of the late 90s liked music more than teenagers of 2014, do you? It's not like "oh, people don't like music anymore, how did that happen?"
And yes. There is more competition. In the late 90s and early 2000s it was like "this is Britney Spears and this is Justin Timberlake and they are who you will love and worship, ok? Cool." Nowadays you can download music from ANY genre. You can discover so much more with the internet. If you have 8tracks or Soundcloud or Spotify or any music app on your phone, all you have to do is enter the genres you like and it will discover so much music for you.
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Back in the day, these artists were competition for the teen pop girls and those were just debuts. We also had Mariah Carey (who was inspired by Britney/Christina to do teen pop with "Heartbreaker)," Madonna made her comeback (
Ray of Light in '98 and
Music in 2000), TLC fought for the teen market ("No Scrubs" is a legendary bop), Spice Girls were still a major force, Destiny's Child peaked in 1999 with TWOTW, Shania Twain was in the midst of her legendary
Come On Over era, etc. I agree that Britney was the first solo female to do teen pop, but she still had miles of competition, even from just pop females.
Also, in 2014 we got a report saying that less music had been released to iTunes this year than ever before. The volume of new music has gone down exponentially since the 2000s since music is no longer as profitable. That has nothing to do with the number of people listening.
TEAs have been used by both Billboard and IFPI. They are official. They are a very accurate representation of music sales to pre-digital album sales.
Please remember that the late 90s/2000s have inflated sales due to the creation of the CD and the market rush to replace old cassettes with CDs. The sales of today should NOT mirror the sales of the 2000s because we don't have the market innovations that there were in the 2000s.
Music genres of today are actually much, much more limited. Digital single sales have homogenized radio, which is why we see artists continuously setting radio play streak records (Katy, Gaga, P!nk, Britney, Rihanna, etc.). Though we have higher accessibility to more music, we really have much, much less support for other genres, especially compared to the 2000s.
I do appreciate you calling Britney the Princess of Pop, though
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Originally posted by KangBey
Yall are so quick to bring up album sells from back in the day, knowing we live in the age of internet piracy,yet refuse to include tour receipts. Yes, Britney had a huge peak for that time, but Bey of 03, 08 and now is just as big and Gaga of 09-11.
Katy and Rih aren't in the conversation, especially Katy because she lacks cultural impact and the IT Factor that the other girls have. I don't see how Bey, Rih and Gaga's careers are impacted by Britney. I would say, Jessica Simpson and Mandy Moore and some other irrelevant pop girls.
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Bey's performance style changed drastically after Britney's debut and she's done things like incorporate Britney's 2003 AMA performance in her 2006 VMAs performance and even takes notes on other financial ventures (see how their perfume lines stack up). Rihanna's breakout was a Britney Spears reject ("Umbrella") and she's followed a very similar pattern in music releases (teen pop - adult transition - dark era - pop comeback). Gaga wrote for Britney, her entire early career was centered around the "decay of the blonde popstar," etc.
Bey in '03 lacked selling power (most of her success came with "Crazy In Love" and "Baby Boy" came from payola) and was far from the biggest celebrity, with Britney being a much bigger name than her that year. Bey in '08 was smaller than both Gaga and Britney. It wasn't until 2009 that IA...SF became bigger than Circus.
As for Gaga, TFM wasn't even as big as OIDIA, let alone BOMT. She was never even the most searched person on the Internet. I agree that Gaga was huge and her peak was the closest we've had to Britney's since (whereas Bey's U.S. overall career is closest to Britney's and Rih's WW overall career is closest to Britney's), but she still came up short.