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Chart News: HDD: 375k for 'ARTPOP'
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Gaga's selling power has always been overrated.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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she's debuting with 500K bookmark me
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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Originally posted by slobro
Katy is coming from a smash era, Gaga from a 'flop' era. Katy's single far bigger than Gaga's. Katy had Walmart promoting her album with a nonstop commercial (even better than a Target deal). She had a radio deal that made radio stations across the nation play her songs 5 times per hour. She had everything going for her unlike Gaga. The fact that Gaga still might outsell her is embarrassing for her.
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Not really. Katy will get more money in the end.
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Member Since: 3/30/2009
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These numbers are fine. Doing +350k is solid. She could pull 400k if she does SNL next Saturday.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
HITS never predicted 1 million copies first week for TD. 
They were wondering TD would challenge Recovery sales because "Teenage Dream" was blowing up around that time, and "California Gurls" was just finishing its very successful run on the charts. They didn't write a long drawn-out prediction for it; it was only mentioned in one of those Rumor Mill articles with a bunch of radio-related things. |
No, they expected +800k and wrote an essay about it.
POP’S GOLDEN GIRL
As It Turns Out, Katy Perry Is Far More Than Just a Pretty Face
Much has been written, here and elsewhere, about the brain trust surrounding Katy Perry, including EMI executives Greg Thompson and Angelica Cob Baehler; the management team of Martin Kirkup, Steve Jensen and Bradford Cobb; recently departed A&R man Chris Anokute; and writer/producers Dr. Luke and Max Martin. What hasn’t been widely discussed is that Perry is a fiercely intelligent young artist who is firmly in control of every aspect of her career, from her music—in which she plays a primary songwriting role, decides who she collaborates with and who produces—to her carefully calibrated imaging. In terms of doing things her own way, it’s hard to imagine any other pop diva going out on the Warped Tour, as Perry did in 2008. Thus far, her decision-making has been virtually flawless, resulting in wall-to-wall media visibility and massive anticipation for Teenage Dream, streeting Aug. 24 on Capitol/EMI. Meanwhile, the just-released title track poised to follow “California Gurls” (which hit 3m this week) to the top of the sales and airplay charts. Prognosticators are divided on whether Perry’s album will surpass Eminem’s Recovery, which bowed at 754k, to become the year’s biggest debut. Doubters feel the release date is problematic in the sense that it falls at a time when Americans are traditionally preoccupied with end-of-summer and back-to-school activities, with mass entertainment far down their priority lists… Not surprisingly, Perry’s current contract is being renegotiated, with respected attorney Jay Cooper in the process of doing a mega-deal for her… While Roger Faxon’s new business plan for EMI hadn’t been made public by presstime, insiders say that the new boss has dissolved the infamous “bucket” system instituted early in the Guy Hands era, which incomprehensibly separated A&R, "music services" (marketing/sales/operations) and “support services” (finance/legal & business affairs) into their own fiefdoms. His spin, like that of every other new CEO in music business annals, is that “it’s all about the artist.”... Faxon’s elevation to overall chief of the company coincides with the heating up of EMI U.K., which had five of the British Top 10 albums last week, four of them from homegrown artists, including a pair of debuts, in an impressive display of artist development. This timely spate of hits puts some much-needed points on the board for A&R chief Nick Gatfield, who has long been rumored to be frustrated by the lack of stable leadership at the company… Word from inside Vevo is that there are merely “one or two outstanding points” to settle in the negotiations with MTV, which were reportedly contentious at the outset. The Rio Caraeff-led company has already completed licensing deals with AOL and CBS Interactive and is in the process of signing one with Yahoo, with another half dozen on deck. The same sources add that when Vevo partner Sony Music’s online deal with MTV.com runs out, the company will insist that the network use the branded Vevo player on all its online platforms as well. It now appears that MTV will agree to the use of the Vevo player, and that the lone remaining issue has to do with which company will control the advertising and content on the watch page... The entire music industry is fervently hoping that the Google Music Store launches before the end of the year, pointing to the increasingly bullying tactics of the powers behind iTunes. Wonderers are wondering how iTunes will react to Arcade Fire’s decision to allow Amazon MP3 to sell the band’s Aug. 3 release The Suburbs (Merge) at $3.99 for four days, with some expecting the album to be virtually invisible on the iTunes welcome page next week… What longtime inseparable label dynamic duo is in the midst of facing the music for the collective red ink being spilled under their watch? Insiders say this one is a classic case of the party being over… The recent Internet chatter about legendary record man Bob Krasnow (whom his biz buddies had nicknamed Ernie after Phil Silvers’ irrepressible title character in the ’50s sitcom Sgt. Bilko) has old-timers recalling the HQ of his Blue Thumb label on Canon Dr. in Beverly Hills. Krasnow’s office had formerly been a barbershop, and he’d retained the swiveling leather chairs, along with an apothecary cabinet, each drawer of which he’d filled with a specific mind-altering substance, including mescaline, peyote, Thai stick, hash, Colombian marching powder and several different forms of acid. Those were the days… In a more recent historical note, Bill McGathy, who became the most important Active Rock indie radio promoter in the pre-Eliot Spitzer era, has successfully reinvented himself as a manager, while contemporaries like Jeff McClusky and Lenny Lyons have all but vanished from the game. McGathy’s In De Goot Entertainment, which he launched, with great foresight, back in 1993, has turned into one of the premiere hard-rock management firms in the country. His client roster now includes a solid mix of veteran acts such as Chevelle, Shinedown, Saliva, Puddle of Mudd, Sevendust and Theory of a Deadman, along with promising major label newcomers like Island’s Neon Trees and Capitol’s Adelita’s Way, as well as in-demand rock producers Steven Haigler and Mike Watts, among others… Names in the Rumor Mill: Andria Vidler, Judy McGrath, Scott Rodger, Kanye West, Mo Ostin, Darryl Eaton, Robert Kondrk and Rick Rubin.
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
Wow! She's breaking 300K in this climate where albums sales are at its all time low in the US? And with only two live performances of Applause/minimal promo to push the album in the US?
Now that's an artist with true STAR power.
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I mean, what are they trying?
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Originally posted by Bubi
The difference between Katy and Gaga is that Gaga has more HC fans which will definitely buy album on its first week of release and Katy has more casual fans which will buy album whenever they feel like it so in the end Katy keeps winning  |
This pretty much. Gaga hasn't really had a fanbase like that since The Fame/TFM and more of her fanbase has turned into hard core fans that buy first week. She'll end up having to promote over time and we'll see if it'll sell better from there on. And back in The Fame days her album was selling during her singles lifespans so they helped sales consistently over time, rather than with BTW which was front-loaded and a slow seller from there on out. Katy will probably outsell her over all this era again.
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
Wow! She's breaking 300K in this climate where albums sales are at its all time low in the US? And with only two live performances of Applause/minimal promo to push the album in the US?
Now that's an artist with true STAR power.
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2 commercials in strong rotation and 2 promo singles is considered 'minimal promo' now?
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LADY GAGA 5/11 1.1m* 2.3m
*Sold for 99 cents at Amazon on Tuesday and Thursday of release week.
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omg 
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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I already can't wait for the sales to come in 
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Member Since: 12/27/2011
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Katy doing only 287k coming from a smah era while Gaga is doing 375k coming from a "flop" era.
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What? 
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Wow, the same as Pink Friday. (except that PF did it without any Top 10's) 
Very good. 
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Member Since: 10/26/2009
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Originally posted by Melquiades
Will she be able to sell more than the 359,000 of MDNA? If not |
Yes, and she doesn't need ticket sales to sell that much
Why are people laughing? Didn't we make a poll and most people predict it will sell 400k. This is extremely good.
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Gaga's selling power has always been overrated.
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I don't agree. I think she had a substantial amount in the very beginning of her career, and it even had a slight boost with the beginning of Born This Way but people just weren't here for what she was doing and now it's weakened. She's sold quite a lot already from the time she debuted to now.
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Member Since: 11/30/2009
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Gaga's selling power has always been overrated.
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Clearly it isn't when she can drop 66% and still outsell Katy Perry by ~100k. 
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Member Since: 12/22/2009
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Originally posted by Rockyalen
The hypocrisy lol...
When the question is about past biggest opening weeks: Noo, BTW sold 600k (lol), there was an Amazon deal.
When counting the % of the drop: 375000/1108000*100
At least be consistent, please.
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Oh so now the Monsters want to acknowledge the discount?
The hypocrisy is real.
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Member Since: 6/15/2012
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375K is a good amount. I personally predict 450K. I may be overestimating Gaga's selling power, but DWUW has been getting positive reception from fans, and more importantly, radio. She's also going to undergo a big promo campaign and there are also the exceptional pre-orders so. I think my prediction is on par, but 375K is a more conservative estimate I guess.
As for those individuals bringing up Britney, her last opening week #'s were just fine. They JUST said how it's hard for females to cross 300K first week, so her 275K was far from a flop.
Bitches always gotta bring up Brit. Ch.
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Member Since: 11/20/2010
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I thought more tbh.
that's quite bad but we will see
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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She will do more after DWUW's smashing in the US of A.
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