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Discussion: Thoughts on Food Stamps
Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Smartypants
Feel free to post!
And to everyone: It may seem to you all that I hate food stamps, poor people, etc. That's not true. I recognize that not ALL of the people on food stamps are abusers of the system or crackheads.
But what I won't agree with is the mentality that food stamps are the only option to surviving. There is ALWAYS another way to solve a problem, and this is the same with poverty. You guys have heard the success stories about people who went literally from rags to riches. But did this happen overnight? No. It happened with will and determination. THAT is what many people lack nowadays, and they fail to realize that they can change their situation if they make better decisions.
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There may be other ways but where are they? People want to stop food stamps without putting out other alternatives for it. So as far as I'm concerned this is the only way
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Smartypants
Feel free to post!
And to everyone: It may seem to you all that I hate food stamps, poor people, etc. That's not true. I recognize that not ALL of the people on food stamps are abusers of the system or crackheads.
But what I won't agree with is the mentality that food stamps are the only option to surviving. There is ALWAYS another way to solve a problem, and this is the same with poverty. You guys have heard the success stories about people who went literally from rags to riches. But did this happen overnight? No. It happened with will and determination. THAT is what many people lack nowadays, and they fail to realize that they can change their situation if they make better decisions.
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Do you understand why those stories are so special? Because of how impossible it is to make it out of those situations. Pretty much miracles.
You really need to grow up and realize that the universe really doesn't care if we did the right things or work hard. A lot of life has to do with pure luck. We aren't completely in control of our lives like we wish we are. But keep living in your fantasy world, sis.
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Member Since: 9/15/2012
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Originally posted by memi stan
What is false about what I said? Can a cat or dog take care of themselves?
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*quiet voice* There are humans who can't take care of themselves too. And animals can take care of themselves. Housepets can't because they've evolved into being codependent creatures.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Smartypants
Uhm, yes actually.
Like I said on the first page, food stamps are a privilege, not a right. Therefore, you should not deserve the ability to go and pick what you want, like people with their own money do. Limiting food options to the main food groups would result in a healthier population, anyway.
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No.
These people are humans and should be treated as such. What would limiting the food options do? What good would come out of that really? Healthy poor people who are obviously going to suffer from other ailments?
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Originally posted by Ties
Will those ways get you a bachelor's degree? Do you even know what that is? Do you even go to college? Are you even a high school senior? Why are you acting like you understand when you clearly don't?
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Not you insulting my (high) intelligence by asking me if I know what a bachelor's degree is.
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Originally posted by AdamAL4
*quiet voice* There are humans who can't take care of themselves too. And animals can take care of themselves. Housepets can't because they've evolved into being codependent creatures.
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This.
And cats and dogs survived by themselves for millions of years prior so it's not like they can't. I mean...
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by memi stan
I do give to the poor. I just prefer to give most of my extra money to the humane society because animals are truly helpless unlike humans. And I don't go around harping on anyone . This is just a discussion I am having on atrl.
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This! Just because you choose to donate to the humane society over people doesn't make you a bad person. The nerves of some people. Animals are also suffering a lot.
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Originally posted by Razr
This exactly. Limit what they can buy because if you are getting help with money others make, then you should be buying something actually beneficial and healthy to your life. Not Oreos and soda. Those are a luxury not a necessity.
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How about YOU buy healthy stuff for your life and stop worrying about what other people buy. I mean the hypocrisy is 
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by memi stan
I never said life was easy. I said multiple times on this thread it isn't.
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SO why do you insist that it must be hard work that gets you by? You can work day and night, and still be poor forever. Have you not taken a sociology or economics course before? If it was as easy as working hard you will see a lot more wealthier people. You make it sound as if poor people are lazy. But you don't seem to comprehend that you will likely be what your parents are. The arguments i'm seeing here make Fox News look like a liberal channel.
Right now the employment rate is 7.6% pretty high, mind you it doesn't take into account discouraged workers. If these unemployed people are actively looking, how can they better themselves considering how bad the economy is?
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
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Originally posted by RatedG²
How about YOU buy healthy stuff for your life and stop worrying about what other people buy. I mean the hypocrisy is |
The point is my food is payed with by money I made, their food is payed for by others taxes taken out of the money they made. All the luxuries I get, doesn't translate to someone getting them for free when I worked for those. Take your socialist nonsense out of here
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Originally posted by CoolestPerson12
SO why do you insist that it must be hard work that gets you by? You can work day and night, and still be poor forever. Have you not taken a sociology or economics course before? If it was as easy as working hard you will see a lot more wealthier people. You make it sound as if poor people are lazy. But you don't seem to comprehend that you will likely be what your parents are. The arguments i'm seeing here make Fox News look like a liberal channel.
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They will understand when they get older. I bet the people running around proclaiming "HARD WORK", "RESPONSIBILITY", and "DETERMINATION' are still in high school and living off their parents. Then they want to turn around and look down on those that are suffering and admonish them.
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Originally posted by Razr
The point is my food is payed with by money I made, their food is payed for by others taxes taken out of the money they made. All the luxuries I get, doesn't translate to someone getting them for free when I worked for those. Take your socialist nonsense out of here
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SOCIALIST?
TELLING PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT BUY IS SOCIALIST I CANT 
Don't try me, just because I am a Biology major doesn't mean I don't know about Government, that was one of my choicese I could have minored in
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Originally posted by RatedG²
No.
These people are humans and should be treated as such. What would limiting the food options do? What good would come out of that really? Healthy poor people who are obviously going to suffer from other ailments?
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You speak as if poor people deserve food stamps. It is a PRIVILEGE just to be told you can have them. If a person was truly poor, they would accept what was given to them.
And limiting options would lead to healthier food options, in turn decreasing the obesity rates.
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RatedG² is scalping the lessors.
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God forbid someone wants to buy Oreos with their food stamps. Maybe give some sort of dessert to their family.
How hard do people on food stamps have to have it so that you can be satisfied?
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by Smartypants
You speak as if poor people deserve food stamps. It is a PRIVILEGE just to be told you can have them. If a person was truly poor, they would accept what was given to them.
And limiting options would lead to healthier food options, in turn decreasing the obesity rates.
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I wouldn't say deserve, but they should be entitled to help if the need arises. But I don't care if people would accept what they were given or not because they still have their own choices at the end of the day on what to do with that money. Sure if they were smart they would use it on healthy choices but healthy choices can be very expensive and you could get more food for less money being unhealthy 
So only poor people are included in obesity rates now? 
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by Razr
The point is my food is payed with by money I made, their food is payed for by others taxes taken out of the money they made. All the luxuries I get, doesn't translate to someone getting them for free when I worked for those. Take your socialist nonsense out of here
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First of all its not YOUR money. There's well over 310 million Americans, do you really think a tiny portion of your money allows you to have a say on what a person can eat? If that worries you so much, how about instead of whining on Atrl you write a letter to your local representative and protest it? They likely won't do anything about it because you're saying nonsense. Is a freaking steak that big a deal to you?
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Originally posted by RatedG²
SOCIALIST?
TELLING PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT BUY IS SOCIALIST I CANT
Don't try me, just because I am a Biology major doesn't mean I don't know about Government, that was one of my choicese I could have minored in |
No telling people what they can and cannot buy is not socialist, but your views are. You are implying in your argument that whether or not somebody is on food stamps they deserve equivalent life styles as everybody else. You imply they deserve everything everybody else has. Somebody who has gone to school longer, worked harder, surely deserves more than somebody who has done nothing, yet is given everything by their government. Financial success goes to those who succeed and also work hard. It should not be equal for everybody.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Smartypants
And limiting options would lead to healthier food options, in turn decreasing the obesity rates.
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Fresh fruits, vegetables, and meats aren't cheap. They are quite costly. I'm sure that's nothing you have to worry about, though. You probably wake up to a fridge full of food every day.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Originally posted by lancelovesgaga
RatedG² is scalping the lessors.
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I try I try
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Originally posted by Ties
God forbid someone wants to buy Oreos with their food stamps. Maybe give some sort of dessert to their family.
How hard do people on food stamps have to have it so that you can be satisfied?
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Right!
It's like they realize they are poor but they won't be satisfied until they act poor and do everything a poor person is supposed to do but if for one instance they seem to stop doing that, cut off the food stamps. Like
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