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Discussion: What does Rihanna have to do to prove she is the QoP?
Member Since: 5/20/2012
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Originally posted by alfonso12
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Ch...those songs would have flopped without Rihanna
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
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Someone credible has to name her QOP but no one has done so yet..
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Member Since: 4/12/2007
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1. She lacks real charisma
2. She still needs better sales/more enduring material
3. She needs a "perfect storm" a la "Like a Prayer"/"Vogue"/"Justify My Love" or "Thriller"/"Billie Jean"/"Beat It" where her singles, videos, public persona overshadow EVERYONE else in the game. Gaga's even already had it with TFM.
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Member Since: 4/21/2011
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Originally posted by Monkey_Juice
Apparently Having 3 years of success is also enough to be titled "Queen Of Pop"
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Yes considering the fact that in those 3 years of activity she managed to get a few 6x platinum singles in the US, a Diamond single, sold over 20 million albums, is selling out stadiums, has topped forbes and has one of the biggest fanbase in the world.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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-She needs to improve her singing and dancing and actually sing live during performances + have decent choreography
-She needs a game changing hit, so a song that's really different from what's going on at the moment and have people follow her example
-She needs an iconic performance
-She has to improve her reputation and behaviour, so stop bashing fans and showing up late for tour performances
Just to name a few.....
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Arking
Pretty much this. She and the other girls can serve hit single after hit single but if you want to be Queen of Pop, take a cue from the original Queen of Pop - Madonna's repertoire. She not only served modern classics like Vogue and Like A Prayer and made herself headline fodder with her intelligent use of sex, religion, fashion and open embrace of underground gay culture, but she was also an incredibly hard-working and powerful performer and hands-on business woman in charge of her own image and career. Sure her vocals weren't the best, far from it, but always she stayed serving full choreo, theatrical set pieces all while singing live (most of the time).
Madonna bled and sweat on stage every night, against censorship, controversy and her own ego to delver to the world her work, and that's how she became (and continues to be) the reigning Queen of Pop. 7 albums in, Rihanna could stand to learn a few lessons about sharpening her performances and work ethic from Madge, as well as some of the other girls. Dropping singles and looks at the cutting edge of modern trends will only get her so far as an artist.
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This sums it up. Rihanna's changed NOTHING. Noone has. Every pop girl out right now is still taking their cues from Madonna, hence why she will remain the "Queen" until someone comes along and changes things again.
That's why MJ is still King.
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Member Since: 6/8/2008
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Has she ever opened up an album with more than 400k?
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Member Since: 1/18/2012
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Nothing, Madonna will always be Queen
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Member Since: 3/14/2013
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To be a better performer, she's not good at it. She has the hits, but she doesn't deliver on stage. And its hard to take her seriously because of it.
An iconic performance.
And something better than Umbrella and WFL, yes they're very popular but she needs a game changer song + iconic video + iconic performance!
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Member Since: 6/15/2011
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Pretty much all the non-Rihanna stans spilled the tea in this thread. You'd have to be delusional to not realize she's severely lacking in a lot of areas to be rightfully considered the queen of pop.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by bobbymfw
1. She lacks real charisma
2. She still needs better sales/more enduring material
3. She needs a "perfect storm" a la "Like a Prayer"/"Vogue"/"Justify My Love" or "Thriller"/"Billie Jean"/"Beat It" where her singles, videos, public persona overshadow EVERYONE else in the game. Gaga's even already had it with TFM.
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The flat out lie. Her charisma was the only thing she had going for her that allowed her to get away with her below standard singing and dancing skills for 80% of her career
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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She isn't called the queen of pop because it's too early in her career to deem her that, especially if you compare her career to the numerous women who are called the QOP. In terms of influence and impact she comes VERY short, for now she needs to work on being a better performer she has potential to do so much better. Cause she is very weak in a lot of areas she's lucky to even have a career at this point in all reality.
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Member Since: 11/9/2010
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Originally posted by Starburst
Write a song by herself.
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That pesky songwriting/writing credits thing...ain't that the truth.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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IKR, but damn don't yall get tired of fighting over chicks that most likely won't do the same for you. LOL. Anyways rihanna doesn't deserve the QOP title now, seeing as her career is still very young. Especially when her impact/influence/innovativeness comes very SHORT to the ones considered the queen of pop.
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Originally posted by bobbymfw
1. She lacks real charisma
2. She still needs better sales/more enduring material
3. She needs a "perfect storm" a la "Like a Prayer"/"Vogue"/"Justify My Love" or "Thriller"/"Billie Jean"/"Beat It" where her singles, videos, public persona overshadow EVERYONE else in the game. Gaga's even already had it with TFM.
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Originally posted by BadMonster
-She needs to improve her singing and dancing and actually sing live during performances + have decent choreography
-She needs a game changing hit, so a song that's really different from what's going on at the moment and have people follow her example
-She needs an iconic performance
-She has to improve her reputation and behaviour, so stop bashing fans and showing up late for tour performances
Just to name a few.....
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Agreed
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Member Since: 8/10/2012
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I feel like she's one of those pop girls that will always be near the top but never get there. .
There's always someone that's going to be bigger than her.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by Ady.
To get a 100m grossing tour which is happening with Diamonds World Tour. There you have it.
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I agree. After that, there's no argumenT.
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Member Since: 4/12/2007
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Originally posted by Javan
The flat out lie. Her charisma was the only thing she had going for her that allowed her to get away with her below standard singing and dancing skills for 80% of her career
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No, her songs, good looks, and label marketing are what allowed her to get this far.
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Member Since: 2/16/2012
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Originally posted by NaughtyDog
. The other reason might be the criticism that she cant sing as that too shouldnt matter since Madonna can't sing as well compared to some yet she is still called the Queen of Pop.
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Madonna knew how to work her voice, and she has some FLAWLESS vocal performances.
Ray of Light on Oprah comes to mind.
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Member Since: 6/1/2012
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Rihanna will never be considered as a queen of pop.
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