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Discussion: Is Pop Music Empty?
Member Since: 12/21/2011
Posts: 12,474
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Originally posted by Clump
In light of recent events, Rated R was clearly never personal or meaningful.
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It was at the time... It was.
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Member Since: 7/2/2011
Posts: 5,053
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Originally posted by jose168
thats a word and a letter
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That's what I wanted to write first, but it sounded stupid.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
Posts: 50,646
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Originally posted by DejaVu
Pop music hasn't been substantial because that's what people have enjoyed for the past few years. But now we're starting to see a shift away from that as artist like Katy and Rihanna are losing some steam while Adele is outselling everyone from the past 8 or so years.
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Adele wont change anything, she is a flash in the pan (era wise). The same thing happened with Lauryn Hill, Norah Jones, Alicia Keys, Alanis Morisette, Dido, Enya, and etc... they did not change the overall state of music.
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
Posts: 11,151
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Not really. This board thinks 4 is a POP album and Bey's exclusively a pop star. A lot of them do not know what R&B music sounds like.
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Half of these girls don't even know what R&B stands for. ATRL is so dense it's ridiculous.
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
Posts: 16,500
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Originally posted by Tsuko
I agree that pop music is awful at the moment.
But Lady Gaga is actually one of the worst. Her songs are just as generic as Katy Perry's imo. Especially when you take away the lyrics.
I did love 00's pop music though. It was only in the last few years when it started getting awful imo, and it's looking to get better now, as it seems dance music and electropop are FINALLY dieing out (Taio Cruz, Lady Gaga and Pitbull can't be happy about this!!).
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Wow.
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Member Since: 7/3/2011
Posts: 10,425
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Originally posted by Tsuko
I agree that pop music is awful at the moment.
But Lady Gaga is actually one of the worst. Her songs are just as generic as Katy Perry's imo. Especially when you take away the lyrics.
I did love 00's pop music though. It was only in the last few years when it started getting awful imo, and it's looking to get better now, as it seems dance music and electropop are FINALLY dieing out (Taio Cruz, Lady Gaga and Pitbull can't be happy about this!!).
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I agree. I spit out my tea when I read her name in the article.
Born This Way is a terrible example of "good" pop music. Whether "inspired" or generic. I think most of us can agree on that, regardless of what side we're on.
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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The britney shade.
And what gaga's done with BTW is nothing new, as Cap10 said it's all been done before.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
Posts: 3,505
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
It's a POP song, pop music for the most part has always been about catchy choruses and will continue to be that way, esp. when one is commercial. And the general public will continue to buy it like we've been doing. Period.
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I think some people have become snobs when it comes to pop music. Music will forever be a matter of opinion when it comes to what one person thinks is good or bad as opposed to another. Everyone mentioned in his article (Adele, Gaga, Katy, Britney, Rihanna) are all superstars, household names, and extremely successful. If people want to complain about pop music being empty then there are certainly other options. No one holds a gun to our heads and forces us to listen. You can consider pop music empty for eternity, but at the end of the day numbers don't lie and it will always remain popular.
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Member Since: 7/2/2011
Posts: 5,053
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Originally posted by gordovant
I agree, but I don't think that the albums will be totally generic.
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Maybe not Beyoncé, but the other one..
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
Posts: 15,137
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Originally posted by Clump
In light of recent events, Rated R was clearly never personal or meaningful.
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Member Since: 7/3/2011
Posts: 10,425
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Originally posted by satellites™
Adele wont change anything, she is a flash in the pan (era wise). The same thing happened with Lauryn Hill, Norah Jones, Alicia Keys, Alanis Morisette, Dido, Enya, and etc... they did not change the overall state of music.
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And that's a terrible shame. But I do think that Katy and Rihanna under performing with their recent releases says something about how the pop sound scape is beginning to change.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
Posts: 50,646
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Originally posted by DejaVu
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Rated R gets too much and we all know why, she has not made her personal album yet and that's fine because she is still young. Have you even looked over the tracklist for Rated R and thought about it since the release, or do you just say its good because other people say it is?
Worthy of praise:
6. Russian Roulette
7. Fire Bomb
11. Te Amo
Regular Rihanna:
1. Mad House
2. Wait Your Turn
3. Hard featuring Jeezy
4. Stupid In Love
5. ROCKSTAR 101 featuring Slash
8. Rude Boy
9. Photographs featuring will.i.am
10. G4L
12. Cold Case Love
13. The Last Song
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Member Since: 11/10/2011
Posts: 14,820
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Originally posted by satellites™
Adele wont change anything, she is a flash in the pan (era wise). The same thing happened with Lauryn Hill, Norah Jones, Alicia Keys, Alanis Morisette, Dido, Enya, and etc... they did not change the overall state of music.
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When Alicia Keys, Dido, etc. were massive, they weren't THAT far detached from the rest of mainstream music as Adele is now. Someone Like You is just so different to Party Rock Anthem, Born This Way, Give Me Everything, Last Friday Night, etc, it's actually hard to comprehend.
But in both of Alicia Keys's massive eras, she slotted fairly well into the mainstream music scene in comparison to how Adele did last year. Alicia had amazing music, but it obviously couldn't have had too much of an impact, since it wasn't THAT different to what everybody else was releasing.
I think we're already seeing Adele's impact to be honest. Look at the current top 10 on iTunes at the moment. It's already much less electro/dance than it was for most of 2011.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
Posts: 65,177
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Originally posted by DejaVu
And that's a terrible shame. But I do think that Katy and Rihanna under performing with their recent releases says something about how the pop sound scape is beginning to change.
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Right. Just look at iTunes. I've been noticing it for the past year. It's slowly but surely changing. The music scene doesn't change at the snap of a finger.
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Member Since: 7/2/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by Clump
In light of recent events, Rated R was clearly never personal or meaningful.
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Die.
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Member Since: 8/20/2011
Posts: 12,590
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Originally posted by musiclvr86
I think some people have become snobs when it comes to pop music. Music will forever be a matter of opinion when it comes to what one person thinks is good or bad as opposed to another. Everyone mentioned in his article (Adele, Gaga, Katy, Britney, Rihanna) are all superstars, household names, and extremely successful. If people want to complain about pop music being empty then there are certainly other options. No one holds a gun to our heads and forces us to listen. You can consider pop music empty for eternity, but at the end of the day numbers don't lie and it will always remain popular.
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I love it!
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Member Since: 7/3/2011
Posts: 10,425
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Originally posted by musiclvr86
I think some people have become snobs when it comes to pop music. Music will forever be a matter of opinion when it comes to what one person thinks is good or bad as opposed to another. Everyone mentioned in his article (Adele, Gaga, Katy, Britney, Rihanna) are all superstars, household names, and extremely successful. If people want to complain about pop music being empty then there are certainly other options. No one holds a gun to our heads and forces us to listen. You can consider pop music empty for eternity, but at the end of the day numbers don't lie and it will always remain popular.
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On the contrary, I think some people have lost their standards when it comes to GOOD music.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
Posts: 50,646
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Originally posted by Mr.Marvelous
They will both release more pop/upbeat albums, watch & see.
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And that's fine because upbeat/pop albums CAN be great too, no one said they were all generic.
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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Originally posted by Mr.Marvelous
Die.
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Someone clearly wants to.
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Member Since: 12/21/2011
Posts: 12,474
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Originally posted by DejaVu
And that's a terrible shame. But I do think that Katy and Rihanna under performing with their recent releases says something about how the pop sound scape is beginning to change.
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Rihanna and Katy underperforming? Since when?
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