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Poll: Will you support Hillary Clinton?
View Poll Results: Will you support Hillary Clinton in the presidential race?
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Yes, I will support the first woman nominee in history, Hillary Rodham Clinton
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73.25% |
No, I will not support her. I am voting for Trump/Not voting at all
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26.75% |
Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 25,228
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Originally posted by Bloo
And they won't win.
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Neither will Hillary in the GE.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
Posts: 27,495
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Originally posted by Nikolai.
hell no. I'm not putting a CRIMINAL in charge of our country, I still can't at her being able to run
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Trump is a criminal too sis. He frauded a bunch of college students who were dumb enough to trust him. They are both cut from the same cloth. Don't let this politic drama show fool you. They friends.
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
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Originally posted by Redstreak
Congrats, a woman with decades of international name recognition couldn't clinch the nomination from an unknown 74 year old democratic socialist until ****ing July at a contested convention. Her favorables are atrocious, her trustworthiness is atrocious, she's currently in the midst of an FBI investigation, and on an average of general election polls she's in a near statistical tie with Trump. Name recognition pulling in votes means **** if she's a terrible candidate. Trump got the plurality of his party's vote. Means **** for how well he'd do.
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How embarrassing that Bernie's revolution couldn't beat her despite all this will be even more embarrassing for Trump when he loses to her! Can't wait.
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by Mike91
It's happened before.
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Nobody significant ran against Obama. Nobody ran against Bush II. The one notable man who ran against Bill Clinton won zero contests and less than 6% of the vote. The guy who ran against Bush Sr. also won zero contests. Nobody ran against Reagan.
If Hillary wins in November, she wins a second nomination by default.
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by Mike91
Neither will Hillary in the GE.
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Evidence suggests otherwise!
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Member Since: 2/20/2012
Posts: 24,225
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Originally posted by Ariana Grande
How so? Its the EXACT situation on a smaller scale. You're silly if you think there's actual, good reason for these strikes.
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Corner ha and snatch ha dusty weave. /cosign
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by Nikolai.
hell no. I'm not putting a CRIMINAL in charge of our country, I still can't at her being able to run
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Can you point me to an indictment or a criminal record anywhere? I'm a little confused, mostly because this is a lie.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by Mike91
And if he voted against it, y'all would be claiming that he didn't support funding Katrina victims. Just like how you use his crime bill vote against him when he voted for it because of the Violence Against Women Act. Imagine if he voted against that.
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We ONLY bring up the crime bill because Bernie supporters have gone IN on Hillary voicing support for (without even voting). Don't even try to act any differently.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Nikolai.
hell no. I'm not putting a CRIMINAL in charge of our country, I still can't at her being able to run
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Shes been convicted?
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 2,533
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Originally posted by Icarus
How embarrassing that Bernie's revolution couldn't beat her despite all this will be even more embarrassing for Trump when he loses to her! Can't wait.
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I'll never fathom people who are actually happy that genuine change for the country was blockaded.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by Mike91
Neither will Hillary in the GE.
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We'll see about that.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
Posts: 7,989
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Originally posted by Redstreak
I'll never fathom people who are actually happy that genuine change for the country was blockaded.
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You know, Congress would have blockaded Bernie's idea of change regardless, right? Our entire government is not set up for radical change. We're set up for incremental change.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Mike91
And if he voted against it, y'all would be claiming that he didn't support funding Katrina victims. Just like how you use his crime bill vote against him when he voted for it because of the Violence Against Women Act. Imagine if he voted against that.
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He could learn a lot from one of the most effective law makers in modern polotical history. Hillary Clinton. When a bill is going to pass regardless of any push back because the GOP run the house and the senate the Clinton's have long used the tactic of negotiating progressive ammendments in return for easier passage. Poor Sanders that, sits well below the average effectiveness for every role he has ever held. He's certainly not worth his top 5 percent salary.
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Originally posted by Redstreak
I'll never fathom people who are actually happy that genuine change for the country was blockaded.
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Most people who are happy he lost didn't support him as a candidate, didn't see his policies as realistically achievable in our current Congress, or didn't believe he would be elected in the general. It's the same reason you didn't support Hillary.
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Yes because I ain't having Trump in office
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Retro
Nobody significant ran against Obama. Nobody ran against Bush II. The one notable man who ran against Bill Clinton won zero contests and less than 6% of the vote. The guy who ran against Bush Sr. also won zero contests. Nobody ran against Reagan.
If Hillary wins in November, she wins a second nomination by default.
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1980. Kennedy ran against Carter. Results from the past have no indication of where the country and the democratic party will be in 4 years. Especially if Hillary's unfavorables stay high.
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Originally posted by Retro
Evidence suggests otherwise!
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I'm talking about in 4 years. If republicans run even someone slightly moderate and friendly towards Latinos, the odds are she won't be re-elected. 12 years of democratic rule with little to show for it won't be kind to her. And let's be honest, she's also going to face republican obstruction so ultimately nothing will be accomplished.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Retro
Link please!
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https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/stat...16888557809664
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On Sunday morning, Clinton did just that.
Speaking to CNN’s Jake Tapper, Clinton disputed Sanders’ description of Israel’s assault on Gaza as “disproportionate.” Clinton argued that “Hamas provokes Israel.”
On top of blaming Palestinians for Israel’s deadly violence, Clinton called into question the innocence of dead Palestinian civilians, arguing, “They often pretend to have people in civilian garb, acting as though they are civilians, who are Hamas fighters.”
Maybe Clinton was referring to the 551 children Israel killed in Gaza, 68 percent of whom were under the age of 12. Or maybe she was talking about the 844 Palestinians that the Associated Press determined were killed in Israeli airstrikes on residential homes, including 19 babies and 108 preschoolers between the ages of 1 and 5.
Or perhaps she meant the 140 Palestinian families that had three or more members killed by Israel that summer.
This isn’t the first time Clinton has shamelessly attacked dead Palestinians for political gain.
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http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-pro...bernie-sanders
My response
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Oh okay. Here I go.
**** you Hillary Clinton. Honestly **** you. You have no idea what you are talking about. Were you there during any of these conflicts? Because I was. I was outside, in the West Bank calmly watching the World Cup with my brother and cousin during the first night of attacks in 2014. The Israeli-Gaza "Operation Protective Edge". It lasted almost two whole months and it was terrifying. Even though I was in a relatively safe area, I still witnessed it all. The attacks, the sirens coming from Jerusalem (which was in my sight of view), the gunshots from Israeli soldiers coming from around MY area to scare of rebelling children and protestors (who had rocks, not guns keep in mind).
Let's look at the stats, shall we? During Operation Protective Edge, roughly 2170 people were killed, from both sides. And that INDEED was a tragedy. But let's take a closer look. Out of the 2170, lets guess how many of those were Palestinians and how many were Israelis.
About 2100 were Palestinians. And 70 Israelis. 97% of the people killed during this conflict ALONE were Palestinians. Those supposed "terrorists". All 2100 are apparently terrorists. Including the ~1450 civilians, which included about 500 children and 250 women who were sprinting out of Gaza to save their own lives and the lives of their family members. Having hours, if not minutes to prepare to leave their whole lives behind. Getting phone calls and dropped paper pamphlets from Israeli officials telling them to leave their homes within a certain amount of time because they will be firing missiles in their areas. These children and women are obviously the terrorists.
475,000 had to flee to "Israeli controlled" shelters / safe zones. (I use the quotations marks because even those were often attacked, and with civilians inside). Over 17,000 homes destroyed or severely damaged, and roughly 250 schools destroyed. Where did the people of Gaza go to take be at peace during these attacks? Nowhere. They weren't allowed to leave the permitters of the area. Yes, there were attacks from "terrorist" group Hamas, but that doesn't even come CLOSE to the amount of missiles and attacks that came from the IDF. Why? Because the United States lends a HUGE hand when it comes to Israeli. To their highly defensive and unique Iron Dome which can stop most, if not all, of missiles coming into Israeli boundaries and to their large amounts of safe zones and buildings Israeli civilians can take shelter in during these "brutal and deadly attacks" from the Palestinian sides. While Palestinian civilians were fleeing for their lives and sprinting through deceased bodies left and right, Israeli civilians were grabbing their lawn chairs and drinks, going to the top of hills, and watching the missiles go back and forth (which a majority were coming from their sides).
So **** you Hillary Clinton. You're a fraud. You're a guinea pig. You are trash. You know it is sad when your main opponent for the Democratic party is Jewish and is far more open minded, aware of the truth, and willing to put a PEACEFUL end to what seems to be timeless conflict. I was on the edge of voting for her only if she won the Democratic candidacy. Not anymore. Is this woman honestly much better than Trump? But sure, go ahead and vote for her. I'll wait for her to keep funding the Israeli army until my people and family are no longer in existence. Keep believing mainstream pro Israeli and pro Hillary media. If things keep going like this, future generations will ask "What is Palestine" which is funny, because long ago people would ask "What is Israeli". This may be the most important election my generation lives through. Don't **** up.
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But of course you won't hear about this on MSNBC or CNN.
But go on Hillary supporters, love her all you want.
But I will never, NEVER support someone who thinks this of my home country. Ever.
Even if the majority of Americans change their opinions in the next 4 years on this issue, and if she follows (which she will because she's wishy washy as hell) I will not support.
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Originally posted by Mike91
1980. Kennedy ran against Carter. Results from the past have no indication of where the country and the democratic party will be in 4 years. Especially if Hillary's unfavorables stay high.
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Kennedy lost.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I'll see who she's running with (and not just the VP). There's considerably more to a presidential election than just the president.
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