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Discussion: J. Cole shades Iggy, Eminem, Macklemore, Justin Timberlake
Member Since: 5/3/2010
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Originally posted by KareBear
White people in here not getting it
Nobody's saying white people can't do rap or R&B and they can't be good at it. Its just as soon as a white artist goes into the category that was previously mostly black, it erases all the black artists achievements. A white artist will soon become King of Rap and R&B even though there were many better black artists before them, same as Elvis. Its no surprise that Macklemore and Iggy sell so much more than 90% of black artists in the same category, who are better than them. You're telling me that's just a coincidence?
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People like to attack Iggy for "bitching and whining" yet all this thread consists of is people making absurd predictions that black culture is somehow going to be completely erased by white artists, even though we know it isn't going to happen
Macklemore and Iggy have both been successful for one era, and they have yet to "erase black artists achievements".
I must have missed the part where Eminem deleted Jay Z's, OutKast's, Tupac's etc. legendary status.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by KB.
But were any of them ever aiming for mainstream success in the first place or were they simply doing what they love?
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Looking at their record label history, yes & yes.
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Originally posted by Rigalo
Iggy has stated numerous times that she doesn't want to be defined solely by one genre and could care less if the community respects her
Nicki Minaj stans just don't get it.
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So, as a rapper, Iggy doesn't care if fans of the culture don't respect her? Even you don't believe that.
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Member Since: 5/3/2010
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Originally posted by Notorious K.E.N
This!
ATRL is a great example of this. They call Iggy the Queen of Rap, by discrediting not only Nicki, but also Kim, Missy, Lauryn and more.
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No one says this unless they are joking. Barbs are so sore its sad
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Member Since: 12/4/2010
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I'm slayed
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
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Originally posted by Javan
Looking at their record label history, yes & yes.
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So because they were signed, they were trying to be successful? Not necessarily... They could've easily sold out ala multiple rappers of today for commercial success, but they did not.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by Rigalo
people making absurd predictions that black culture is somehow going to be completely erased by white artists, even though we know it isn't going to happen
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Jazz
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It's only a matter of time, until they snatch Rap.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Rigalo
Iggy has stated numerous times that she doesn't want to be defined solely by one genre and could care less if the community respects her
Nicki Minaj stans just don't get it.
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Iggy stans don't get that I can rap in an english accent, an Australian accent, a southern accent, a Latino accent and more yet that doesn't change the fact trying to rap by mimicking something I'm not. And Iggy is lying if she says she doesn't care what the community says if she cries every time someone comes from her. From Azealia to Snoop to Eminem to Rah Digga and ect.
Me stanning for the Queen of Rap has nothing to do with my views of Iggy. If it did I wouldnt like Lil Kim, Mariah Carey, Azealia Banks and many more
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by KB.
So because they were signed,
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Signed to majors
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Originally posted by KB.
they were trying to be successful? Not necessarily... They could've easily sold out ala multiple rappers of today for commercial success, but they did not.
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Is Em a sell out?
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Member Since: 9/5/2011
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I love me some Jermaine..he can't do any wrong in my eyes.
BuT, people need to get over the race/stereotypes, etc. You don't think Eminem, Iggy, and other white rappers weren't afraid to make hip hop music? Knowing damn well it's basically a black person's genre? Eminem pretty much spilledT the tea in "Lose Yourself"..they are taking chances by being the minority in a genre dominated by blacks..I don't remember Fat Joe or Big Pun getting this much flack because their race/etc. It's just not fair to single them out..just make music that you feel comfortable doing..
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Member Since: 11/10/2011
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Originally posted by Callum
In what way have those artists snatched his sound?
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He's saying that Macklemore and Iggy and people like that do hip hop music and get to have enormous mainstream success (pop airplay, big sales, awards, etc.), yet black people struggle to get the same.
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Member Since: 12/7/2011
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LOL YES Cole
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Member Since: 11/15/2011
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Oh so it's only okay for black rappers to rap about getting b*tches/money/whatever else most radio rap is about?
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Member Since: 5/3/2010
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Originally posted by Tsuko
He's saying that Macklemore and Iggy and people like that do hip hop music and get to have enormous mainstream success (pop airplay, big sales, awards, etc.), yet black people struggle to get the same.
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Is he referring to mainstream success because if you look at urban radio there are probably 1 or 2 white lead artists being spun right now.
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Racist
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by dcode78
I love me some Jermaine..he can't do any wrong in my eyes.
BuT, people need to get over the race/stereotypes, etc. You don't think Eminem, Iggy, and other white rappers weren't afraid to make hip hop music? Knowing damn well it's basically a black person's genre? Eminem pretty much spilledT the tea in "Lose Yourself"..they are taking chances by being the minority in a genre dominated by blacks..I don't remember Fat Joe or Big Pun getting this much flack because their race/etc. It's just not fair to single them out.. just make music that you feel comfortable doing..
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How comfortable would you rapping in accent contrary to your idiolect?
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Black people need to stop acting like only black people are allowed to do hip hop music, music is for everyone, not matter race or color, why cant we be happy for each other and that hip hop gets appreciated by other cultures.
Black people complain about racism still happening, but it doesnt help when there are black people who say stuff like this, what J. Cole said helps nobody and its just pathetic, he seems very bitter and pressed.
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Member Since: 9/5/2011
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Originally posted by Javan
How comfortable would you rapping in accent contrary to your idiolect?
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Well apparently she feels very comfortable because she sounds just like the southern rappers that she's influenced by.
I don't find any fault in Iggy rapping outside of her accent. I don't care.
People are mad because she's white and she's seeing success because of it..and that's not fair to her or the (sometimes) hypocritical hip hop community.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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He's right!
It's that white privilege.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by Rigalo
People like to attack Iggy for "bitching and whining" yet all this thread consists of is people making absurd predictions that black culture is somehow going to be completely erased by white artists, even though we know it isn't going to happen
Macklemore and Iggy have both been successful for one era, and they have yet to "erase black artists achievements".
I must have missed the part where Eminem deleted Jay Z's, OutKast's, Tupac's etc. legendary status.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Javan
Jazz
Rock n Roll
Google image street dance
Google image break dance
Search twerk on instagram
It's only a matter of time, until they snatch Rap.
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Basically.
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