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Celeb News: Grammys ban Gaga, Britney & Rihanna from dance categories
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Nothing wrong with this, it's fair enough. Ya'll will stay pressed.
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Originally posted by Duca
It mixes rave chords, dubstep (a new sound she introduced to the mainstream audience,) industrial beats, and trance synths. It sounds like nothing out right now and is far from the norm in terms of the typical dance-pop production. The only problem with “Hold It Against Me” was that it wasn’t catchy (like “Womanizer,” for example,) which probably caused it to fall out of favor once the hype settled.
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Santigold did that way before her when she burst into the mainsteam back in early '08, and anyone who didn't know what Dubstep was and owned a car game for PS1 was introduced to dubstep then. Aside from that, Dubstep has been around for awhile. Mainsteam artists are just getting into now.
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It's the shammys. what can you expect?
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This is kind of annoying, but whatever. I guess it'll just be a flop category now. 
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Originally posted by Beatz
You don't know singles+albums sales can be considered "record sales"?  |
And you do know I was pointing out the fact that although she had high single sales, the album sales are what keeps her record sales low
You can be so ****ing dense sometimes 
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YUS now Robyn can get that grammy for the FLAWLESS "Call Your Girlfriend" which she rightfully deserves.
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Originally posted by Midnight
Santigold did that way before her when she burst into the mainsteam back in early '08, and anyone who didn't know what Dubstep was and owned a car game for PS1 was introduced to dubstep then. Aside from that, Dubstep has been around for awhile. Mainsteam artists are just getting into now.
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Britney still did it first, with "Freakshow" from "Blackout," in 2007:
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Originally posted by Pitchfork
But context is everything. Unlike her superstar ex (no, not K-Fed), Britney's borrowings from urban music don't have a safety net of contact book authenticity: There are no "[ft.]"'s on Blackout. When Britney requires a dubstep track, for instance, they simply make some production tricks and make one. The result is "Freakshow", built around the "wobbler" effect that's a genre standby. A dubstep forum thread on the tune hit seventy pages in 24 hours, mixing outrage and delight: It still seems to matter when the mainstream borrows underground music, brings it into the wider pop vocabulary.
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And mainstream is the key word, you're talking about someone who never had a single chart on the Hot 100, and had one top 80 album on the Billboard 200.
And a 2011 article:
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Originally posted by Pitchfork
With a new year comes new music. Just when 2011 seemed like it would birth more of the same old, watered-down dance-pop, Britney Spears, of all artists, brings current trends to their knees. In her new single, “Hold It Against Me,” Spears has brought the underground dubstep genre into the mainstream. While that may be distressing to dubstep fans, it is probably inevitable that pop will capitalize on the underground trend. Britney’s new song is the first true mainstream dubstep track. Yet people have also been up in arms that “Hold It Against Me” isn’t real dubstep at all and that the hype is all a fuss over nothing. Britney’s song is certainly not pure dubstep. Britney kicks up the dubstep in between verses and during the show-stopping, minute long dance break, but during her actual verses the instrumental is light. It’s devoid of a musical hook until the very end, when the verses transform into a soaring chorus with the dubstep instrumental. Thus, Britney has managed to make the dubstep instrumental the highlight of the song without ruining her vocals. “Hold It Against Me” would probably be classified as pop-dubstep and I wouldn’t be surprised if that term becomes ubiquitous. It also may be wishful thinking to believe that one song can change the sound of pop music, but it’s been done before by Britney herself. Despite some negative popular opinion surrounding her, credit must be given where it is due. It may seem pathetic, but Britney could very well start the pop-dubstep genre. Thanks a lot, Britney, now who the **** am I gonna irrationally hate?
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Revolutionary as per usual.
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Freakshow really only had dubstep influences.
And HIAM only had the dubstep breakdown, as the instrumental was industrial with the final chorus being trance.
A real mainstream dubstep song would be Red Lipstick.
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Originally posted by Willy.
Freakshow really only had dubstep influences.
And HIAM only had the dubstep breakdown, as the instrumental was industrial with the final chorus being trance.
A real mainstream dubstep song would be Red Lipstick.
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Red Lipstick is basically a metallica song 
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Originally posted by Willy.
Freakshow really only had dubstep influences.
And HIAM only had the dubstep breakdown, as the instrumental was industrial with the final chorus being trance.
A real mainstream dubstep song would be Red Lipstick.
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Seal It With A Kiss? Inside Out?
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Originally posted by RatedG²
Red Lipstick is basically a metallica song |
It's a Chase & Status song, actual dubstep producers tbh.
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Originally posted by Willy.
It's a Chase & Status song, actual dubstep producers tbh.
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It samples Wherever I May Roam by Metallica
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Originally posted by Duca
Seal It With A Kiss? Inside Out?
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SIWAK yes.
IO is a pop song.
There is not dubstep in it.
Even SIWAK isn't "true" dubstep.
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Originally posted by RatedG²
It samples Wherever I May Roam by Metallica
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Okay but it's still DUBSTEP.
That was the argument to begin with.
SIWAK & IO having "pop-step" created by Dr. Luke & Billboard shouldn't be counted.
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Originally posted by Willy.
Okay but it's still DUBSTEP.
That was the argument to begin with.
SIWAK & IO having "pop-step" created by Dr. Luke & Billboard shouldn't be counted.
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The argument wasn't whether it was true dubstep though, but whether Britney brought it in. He also provided a few examples and you said that only Rihanna's was a true example, but it was a copy of Metallica's tbh
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Originally posted by I RUN L.A.
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what is the problem with Kat?
she deserves some nods.
On the floor was a copy/paste of "Party O'clock' & "Just Dance" was similar to "Callin you".l mean she deserves the recognition for her work too.Two of the biggest hits of Dance/pop.
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I don't see why. It just shows versatility.
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they are increasing their chances while decreasing everybody else.lt's pretty unfair IMO.
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Originally posted by RatedG²
The argument wasn't whether it was true dubstep though, but whether Britney brought it in. He also provided a few examples and you said that only Rihanna's was a true example, but it was a copy of Metallica's tbh
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My argument with Duca was about how HIAM wasn't a primarily dubstep infused song.
I gave him an example saying RL was, even if it sampled Metallica.
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Originally posted by Willy.
SIWAK yes.
IO is a pop song.
There is not dubstep in it.
Even SIWAK isn't "true" dubstep.
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Originally posted by The Guardian
The dubstep influence returns on both Hold It Against Me – featuring a thrilling, grinding breakdown amid the distorted beats and rave synths – and Inside Out, which lurches along on the genre's patent half-speed rhythm.
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Originally posted by Washington Square
"Inside Out" continues the au courant dubstep trend with its gears-grinding-against-each-other sound, which is positively grinding and sexy, and Britney pulls it off well, adding a new facet to her club girl shtick. It drains you and leaves you panting in the best way possible.
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Originally posted by Willy.
Okay but it's still DUBSTEP.
That was the argument to begin with.
SIWAK & IO having "pop-step" created by Dr. Luke & Billboard shouldn't be counted.
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Just like "Hold It Against Me," "Inside Out," and "Seal It With A Kiss" are still DUBSTEP.
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Originally posted by Willy.
My argument with Duca was about how HIAM wasn't a primarily dubstep infused song.
I gave him an example saying RL was, even if it sampled Metallica.
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I never said that "Hold It Against Me" was the prime example of the genre. "Red Lipstick" isn't a primarily dubstep infused song as well.
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Originally posted by Duca
Just like "Hold It Against Me," "Inside Out," and "Seal It With A Kiss" are still DUBSTEP.
I never said that "Hold It Against Me" was the prime example of the genre. "Red Lipstick" isn't a primarily dubstep infused song as well.
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HIAM is not dubstep.
A dubstep breakdown doesn't make the song 100% dubstep.
If anything it's a pop song with industrial & dubstep influences.
SIWAK is an example of a some-what pop-step song.
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