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Music Video: Nicki Minaj - "Only" (Lyric Video)
Member Since: 3/15/2011
Posts: 662
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Originally posted by Wonderland
Exactly.
The only message that matters is the message received. And if people are joining the dots together and getting a Nazi image (like the majority of ATRLers and viewers are), then the fault lies with the video and the failure of it to portray the message it intended.
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To gather that is idiotic. Given there are no EXACT symbols linking to Nazism in the video, and gas masks are simply not enough to link to Nazism, given chemical warfare has always been a threat in war for as long as anyone can remember..
Many of you ATRLers on here passionately dislike and disapprove of anything Nicki does, and I find that to be the most troubling.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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this thread is so messy on both sides of the argument
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 27,856
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Originally posted by YOURsoHOODken
To gather that is idiotic. Given there are no EXACT symbols linking to Nazism in the video, and gas masks are simply not enough to link to Nazism, given chemical warfare has always been a threat in war for as long as anyone can remember..
Many of you ATRLers on here passionately dislike and disapprove of anything Nicki does, and I find that to be the most troubling.
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And that is your opinion, which you are entitled to have,
At the end of the day, if Nazism is what people are interpreting from the material presented in the video, then the video is at fault for failing to present what it really wanted to in a clear manner which wouldn't stir these feelings in the audience viewing it.
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Member Since: 3/15/2011
Posts: 662
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
so what I'm getting here is if Iggy Azalea decide to dress as a KKK ghost for her next video as long as there was no actually depictions of black people being hung in trees, set on fire etc. you'd be cool with that.
which is also clearly Nazi themed
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To be honest with you, she is free (hahaha, not really) to do what she wants, image wise. You are talking about a woman who said she was a "Runaway Slave Master" or something like that in a song, so I wouldn't put it past her.
Everyone loves to see her appropriate black/urban culture. She even caricatures her voice to sound as a down-south rapper, a-la Gangsta Boo (3 6 Mafia, get into it). So as offended as you are (though you cannot elaborate on why, only but to say there are images that a like..) I am highly offended by the carcature that is Iggy Azalea, and I can defend that.
I have given you many opportunities in this thread to elaborate, and you cannot do so. So you flip the table and make a "n***** killing scenario, down south KKK" and ask me if I would be ok with it?
I would only be able to assume you would be, given how lax you through that out there. LOL.
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
Posts: 6,744
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Originally posted by YOURsoHOODken
The lyric video looks to personify dictatorship. What's funny is that there are more dictatorships that are CURRENTLY in existence that have motif like this. Calling it play on Nazi, Germany and playing offended is a sad and poor attempt to try to bash her and the song.
I challenge any of you to explain and elaborate on what about the imagery is offensive, other than it favoring (Nazi) dictatorship Germany. (When in all reality, I can post current dictatorships that have this same motif)
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Because nazi ideology is extremely sick, twisted, racist and incredibly offensive. Using that imagery to condone practices to an otherwise sick regime just because the dictatorship angle is just sooooo cool is incredibly lame. Not to mention, she herself would not have survived under said dictatorship. That's the funny part.
Was this really the most effective way she could think of to portray her self perceived power acquisition? A regime like that of Nazi Europe?
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Member Since: 3/15/2011
Posts: 662
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Originally posted by Kyle.
this thread is so messy on both sides of the argument
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No lie! No lie. No lieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I don't disagree the imagery is not like, however I don't feel anyone has logically stated to why they are offended, so which it stands, they have no right to bash anything, given they cannot elaborate on it.
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Member Since: 12/1/2011
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Originally posted by YOURsoHOODken
No lie! No lie. No lieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I don't disagree the imagery is not like, however I don't feel anyone has logically stated to why they are offended, so which it stands, they have no right to bash anything, given they cannot elaborate on it.
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You're choosing to ignore whats presented to you. a blind stan with no sound argument. "well shes not like actually killing a jewish person!!!" a mess..
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Member Since: 4/26/2012
Posts: 33,881
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About to start a petition to remove this highly insensitive and offensive mess from sight. CNN should be notified.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 39,572
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They had red bands around their arms with the logo from the banners in it, I thought y'all were overreacting but it genuinely does look like Nazi imagery and it isn't even subtle
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
Posts: 6,765
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I can't at people trying to defend this
There is very clearly Nazi imagery here and it was deliberate. Nicki and her team knew exactly how this would be perceived they're not dumb.
1 Using a banner that very closely resembles a Nazi flag(red, white circle, letters that resemble a swastika)
2 Having the soldiers tie these flags around their upper arm, like Nazi soldiers
3 Gas masks
Come on, Nicki new this would happen. All of those together allude to the Holocaust. Anyone denying it chooses to be ignorant and a blind stan. Its right in front of your face, and I wasn't even looking for them.
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Member Since: 3/15/2011
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Originally posted by chilluminati
Because nazi ideology is extremely sick, twisted, racist and incredibly offensive. Using that imagery to condone practices to an otherwise sick regime just because the dictatorship angle is just sooooo cool is incredibly lame. Not to mention, she herself would not have survived under said dictatorship. That's the funny part.
Was this really the most effective way she could think of to portray her self perceived power acquisition? A regime like that of Nazi Europe?
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LOL, we didn't get to talk about the meaning behind the imagery, given everyone here seems to be extremely offended. That's what is truly funny. A lot of the imagery has FLOWN WAY ABOVE ALL OF YOUR HEADS.
Again, you cannot link anything image wise from this lyric video to Nazi Germany, your argument would not stand in court, at all. Mostly the reason why nothing will rlly be said about the likeness of the imagery. Catch that.
I don't see where she is condoning previous historic injustices with simply portraying herself as a dictator with YOUNG MONEY SYMBOL DECALS ON RED FLAGS.. and no one has rlly been able to elaborate on that.
The true ignorant one is you. Missing the artistic statement (which no one here seems to be intelligent enough to capture and look into) to be negative.
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Member Since: 3/15/2011
Posts: 662
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Originally posted by jose168
You're choosing to ignore whats presented to you. a blind stan with no sound argument. "well shes not like actually killing a jewish person!!!" a mess..
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If that's what you got from my responses, you have more problems then .. lmfao!
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by YOURsoHOODken
LOL, we didn't get to talk about the meaning behind the imagery, given everyone here seems to be extremely offended. That's what is truly funny. A lot of the imagery has FLOWN WAY ABOVE ALL OF YOUR HEADS.
Again, you cannot link anything image wise from this lyric video to Nazi Germany, your argument would not stand in court, at all. Mostly the reason why nothing will rlly be said about the likeness of the imagery. Catch that.
I don't see where she is condoning previous historic injustices with simply portraying herself as a dictator with YOUNG MONEY SYMBOL DECALS ON RED FLAGS.. and no one has rlly been able to elaborate on that.
The true ignorant one is you. Missing the artistic statement (which no one here seems to be intelligent enough to capture and look into) to be negative.
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When stanning goes too far.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by YOURsoHOODken
If that's what you got from my responses, you have more problems then .. lmfao!
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you are still here fighting ? How many hours since you came ?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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The building looks like the Reichstag building circa 1930s with the banners, anyone claiming this isn't using Nazi imagery
Honestly this is too much and deserves a backlash.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
Posts: 6,765
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Originally posted by YOURsoHOODken
To be honest with you, she is free (hahaha, not really) to do what she wants, image wise. You are talking about a woman who said she was a "Runaway Slave Master" or something like that in a song, so I wouldn't put it past her.
Everyone loves to see her appropriate black/urban culture. She even caricatures her voice to sound as a down-south rapper, a-la Gangsta Boo (3 6 Mafia, get into it). So as offended as you are (though you cannot elaborate on why, only but to say there are images that a like..) I am highly offended by the carcature that is Iggy Azalea, and I can defend that.
I have given you many opportunities in this thread to elaborate, and you cannot do so. So you flip the table and make a "n***** killing scenario, down south KKK" and ask me if I would be ok with it?
I would only be able to assume you would be, given how lax you through that out there. LOL.
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You're being such a damn hypocrite with all of this and I say this as a black person who hates on Iggy as well. How can you defend someone alluding to the Holocaust, which killed so many Jews, yet be offended when someone makes references to slavery or killing black people and uses a "black rap voice "? So you're only offended when it affect you personally? Get the f**k out with that seriously.......
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
Posts: 41,860
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Originally posted by YOURsoHOODken
To be honest with you, she is free (hahaha, not really) to do what she wants, image wise. You are talking about a woman who said she was a "Runaway Slave Master" or something like that in a song, so I wouldn't put it past her.
Everyone loves to see her appropriate black/urban culture. She even caricatures her voice to sound as a down-south rapper, a-la Gangsta Boo (3 6 Mafia, get into it). So as offended as you are (though you cannot elaborate on why, only but to say there are images that a like..) I am highly offended by the carcature that is Iggy Azalea, and I can defend that.
I have given you many opportunities in this thread to elaborate, and you cannot do so. So you flip the table and make a "n***** killing scenario, down south KKK" and ask me if I would be ok with it?
I would only be able to assume you would be, given how lax you through that out there. LOL.
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Wow. you are beyond help
Disgusting blatant blind hypocrisy
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Member Since: 3/4/2014
Posts: 4,777
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Even if she's not using nazi imagery directly(as stated by her stans, not me), people will still relate the video to Nazis, just wait till more people are aware of the song. + she performing at the EMAs won't help at all, iirc German people can't see YouTube music videos, but still Nazism is something sensible for a wide amount of people.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by hello_world
The building looks like the Reichstag building circa 1930s with the banners, anyone claiming this isn't using Nazi imagery
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Right? Anyone trying to claim this isn't supposed to be Nazi Germany is either blind, dumb, or a Nicki stan. Or all of the above.
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Member Since: 6/30/2010
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YOURsoHOODken vs the world. Not half of its post count since 2011 being from this thread alone.
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