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Discussion: Is P!nk culturally relevant?
Member Since: 4/20/2011
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Originally posted by boodytay
Nothing to laugh at honey. If you fail to acknowledge her impact, then you're delusional—wait, I already knew that.
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I'm not a Hillbilly from Kentucky so I would not know of her impact.
Sorry
This has nothing to do with her anyway's so stay on topic sisteren
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Underdogs shouldn't mind the pressed ones. Pink is outselling their fave in every era, singles, tour and albums. Who gives a **** about her Instagram likes when she got acclaim and respect something most of their faves don't.
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
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she's not assaulted by her bf, she doesn't have a public meltdown, her speech is not interrupted by a hip hop artist
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because these are all things that people choose to do
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Member Since: 1/18/2012
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Originally posted by Teen Idle
Calling P!nk diet-Madonna isn't exactly fair, she hasn't experimented in anything other than Max Martin pop-rock so that's too much of a compliment.
I never denied that the First Album is iconic, i said it didn't have instant success, it wasn't a breakthough. It also helped that Holiday was released 3 times in the UK and the album was re-released in Europe after Like A Virgin. We were talking about career trajectory so we shouldn't be talking about Madonna pre-breakthrough when Gaga topped charts everywhere with her debut.
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Holiday isn't just big in the UK, I can confirm that since I'm not from there. And I wasn't calling Pink diet Madonna honey. Honestly I bet you are really just a monster at heart using Queen Madge as a scapegoat.
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Member Since: 4/29/2012
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Yes all the other popstars and their impact
The impact of no one wanting to buy their music
I mean what good are those thousand news articles and retweets if not even half of them are gonna buy your music, which is obviously the most important thing for a musician
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Teen Idle
Calling P!nk diet-Madonna isn't exactly fair, she hasn't experimented in anything other than Max Martin pop-rock so that's too much of a compliment.
I never denied that the First Album is iconic, i said it didn't have instant success, it wasn't a breakthough. It also helped that Holiday was released 3 times in the UK and the album was re-released in Europe after Like A Virgin. We were talking about career trajectory so we shouldn't be talking about Madonna pre-breakthrough when Gaga topped charts everywhere with her debut.
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TTAL had only 1 Max Martin track though?
And everyone begged for it to be a single though
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Member Since: 8/1/2008
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P!nk fans shouldn't even be bothered by these trolls.
P!nk stays having the most longevity, acclaim, credibility and sales so what?
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
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Originally posted by P!nkism
OH MY GOD
NO she is criticising women who are smart or can be smart but PRETEND to be dumb or wanna act dumb - not women who have personalities and act like themselves
What kind of pure hate though.
Any excuse huh?
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If they want to act dumb then what is wrong with that?
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Edit: this also doesn't change the fact she mocked bulimia (which is like mocking depression, its an imbalance which people cant help) which is generally caused by society's image expectations that she claims to rally against
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Teen Idle
If they want to act dumb then what is wrong with that?
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because all women become victim of that stereotype.
Maybe the bulimia part is too tacky, but still the song is not even about bulimia or eating disorders, it's just in the video.
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
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Originally posted by tcweh
Holiday isn't just big in the UK, I can confirm that since I'm not from there. And I wasn't calling Pink diet Madonna honey. Honestly I bet you are really just a monster at heart using Queen Madge as a scapegoat.
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Well, Gaga is in my sig but no, i am not pretending to like Madonna
and you're missing the point AGAIN. i'm saying that (in simple terms for you to understand) The First Album did not have instant success like The Fame did. Madonna became an 'it' girl that dominated with Like A Virgin, Gaga did that with her debut, so it makes sense that people tired of her quicker. Especially considering her releases were closer together and she didn't have movies, soundtracks or compilations to keep her going.
Mess.
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Member Since: 9/1/2012
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This thread is monthly and the haters arguments are worse every time...
Why bother?
The same thing every time. Google trends, Forbes and Twitter trend topics. Embarassing.
She just had the best selling album and single for a female this year. She's known as a great live performer, her fans are loyal now for more than a decade and public awareness has never been higher.
Of course you're gonna get bothered if your fave is being outsold so keep coming for her, it's funny.
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Member Since: 5/15/2010
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Originally posted by Mr.Link
P!nk fans shouldn't even be bothered by these trolls.
P!nk stays having the most longevity, acclaim, credibility and sales so what?
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
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Originally posted by P!nkism
because all women become victim of that stereotype.
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you continue to ignore the second part
and that's the fault of the people who perpetuate that stereotype, not the women who choose to live their life how they want if some people judge all women based on how some act then that's THEIR fault, not the women's
edit: yes, the bulimia part IS tacky, and the fact its not the main part of the video/song doesn't take away from the fact that it's a terrible thing to do which she didn't apologize for.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Teen Idle
you continue to ignore the second part
and that's the fault of the people who perpetuate that stereotype, not the women who choose to live their life how they want if some people judge all women based on how some act then that's THEIR fault, not the women's
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Yes, coz acting like you are dumb and are just there to please men is the way to go and to act for women.
Stop embarassing yourself.
And i actually commented on the second part
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
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Originally posted by P!nkism
Yes, coz acting like you are dumb and are just there to please men is the way to go and to act for women.
Stop embarassing yourself.
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You really need to stop The song implies that acting '****ty' or feminine immediately equals acting dumb, and that women are doing it to please men, not just because they enjoy doing it. All praise omniscient God P!nk for magically knowing every woman's true intentions and then going on to criticize them.
The only ones embarrassing themselves here are the ones defending this piece of trash, how can you not see how ****ed up this is? All our faves do stuff like this but then to go on about how they 'don't seek attention' just because they don't get it is just incredible
One second P!nk 'isn't craving attention', then she does a song/video like this.
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
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Originally posted by P!nkism
TTAL had only 1 Max Martin track though?
And everyone begged for it to be a single though
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yes but it has that Max Martin sound. You know the one that Kelly Clarkson also made a career out of. And Katy did on OOTB.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Teen Idle
You really need to stop The song implies that acting '****ty' or feminine immediately equals acting dumb, and that women are doing it to please men, not just because they enjoy doing it. All praise omniscient God P!nk for magically knowing every woman's true intentions and then going on to criticize them.
The only ones embarrassing themselves here are the ones defending this piece of trash, how can you not see how ****ed up this is? All our faves do stuff like this but then to go on about how they 'don't seek attention' just because they don't get it is just incredible
One second P!nk 'isn't craving attention', then she does a song/video like this.
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Wow you really are the definition of a BLIND hater. I mean really, even P!nk in her own interview explaining the song couldn't enter your brain.
Bye sis, I ain't gonna bother anymore, you can hate her as much as you want and post hateful stuff about her (watch it though)
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
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Originally posted by P!nkism
Wow you really are the definition of a BLIND hater. I mean really, even P!nk in her own interview explaining the song couldn't enter your brain.
Bye sis, I ain't gonna bother anymore, you can hate her as much as you want and post hateful stuff about her (watch it though)
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She said it was sexist herself in the interview, so you are literally blinded by your stanning for ha and you haven't managed to successfully refute any of my points. I guess I'm right then, I mean I even highlighted the parts of the interview that weren't right but even that wasn't enough for you.
And cringe @ that gif.
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Member Since: 9/11/2010
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The fact that people still bring up Stupid Girls, a song from almost 8 years ago, truly shows ha impact.
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