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Discussion: PF: RR Metacritic score so far
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Unsurprising.
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Member Since: 3/27/2010
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Plain bad album (though with a few stand out tracks)
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I hate this "she's selling, so it doesn't matter" mentality. Do you not get how stupid that comeback/logic is? The critics need to take you seriously if you want to progress in the industry.
If you're not critically acclaimed, you will be seen as a joke to the industry. You don't want that.
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Originally posted by Twai
This is kind of unfair. They just don't think she should be doing pop, not that the pop she's doing is any worse than something that would be on Femme Fatale, Talk That Talk, LMFAO, etc.
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It is worse, the pop music she does is only comparable with the pop music in Love?, which also had a metacritic score lower than 50
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Member Since: 4/12/2007
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Really lousy album. It was obviously rushed at the behest of her label and she clearly lacked inspiration. The fact that Drake and Wayne's wells never seem to run dry just makes it that much more glaring. This is a real "one step forward, two steps back" moment for female rappers.
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Lil Kim will have a lot of stuff to talk about on her next album
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Originally posted by Chemist
It is worse, the pop music she does is only comparable with the pop music in Love?, which also had a metacritic score lower than 50
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Dont dare insult Love? Like that.
it's getting bad reviews because its a terrible album.
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Well this is all expected
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PopMatters: 1 Out of 10
In fact, in the build up to Roman Reloaded‘s release, the word “mistake” has come to define the campaign. Kickstarted by the laughably rhythmless “Stupid Hoe” and dutifully stoked by a woeful Grammy performance of “Roman Holiday”, long has Roman Reloaded been expected to be bizarrely fixated on sounding like a trainwreck.
Her delivery is a put-on like no other rapper has believed palatable, at many moments to the point it truly feels like Minaj has taken the old mantra that “it’s not what you say but how you say it” to a poorly lit basement and performed malpractice surgery on the concept.
It’s only seven minutes into this CD before Nicki Minaj operatically sings “put my dick in your face”, a phrase she’ll repeat many more times throughout the Hit-Boy helmed, very poorly titled “Come on a Cone”. Thanks to the past few months it’s not a complete surprise that this isn’t the only surreal, incomprehensible moment on Roman Reloaded, but it’s especially jarring following “Roman Holiday”, a song with a ridiculous, Millionaires-esque chorus and completely unhinged rendition of “Come All Ye Faithful” wedged awkwardly into the middle. To receive a song that’s every bit “Roman Holiday’s” equal immediately after is just, frankly, insane.
Roman Reloaded seems to be the result of no one being brave enough to tell Minaj enough is enough. By doubling down on her cartoonish elements, she’s lost all remnants of lyrical ingenuity she around the time “Monster” first leaked, let alone her various mixtapes. Roman Reloaded takes great pleasure in emphasizing this awkward lack of accountability as well. While the first half consists of very poorly thought out rap music masquerading as pop, the second half sees Lady Gaga producer RedOne take a leading role on the production end while Minaj sings pop songs that are notable only for their total lack of character. These are songs aim for the empty sentiments of Chris Brown’s Graffiti or Rihanna’s Loud, so lacking are they in reasons to believe in them it’s a bit shocking to see an entire 40 minutes devoted to them.
Minaj has handled herself very capably in previous pop constructs—see “Save Me” or Lil’ Wayne’s “Knockout”—but here it’s all pomp and circumstance. Even then, if the songs were any good, or the performance admirable on any level other than novelty, Roman Reloaded would stand a chance. But Minaj’s shrieking and tongue-speaking here is oddly off putting. Listening to Roman Reloaded quite honestly feels like the hype one might feed a pot-smoking sophomore about Syd Barrett’s Madcap Laughs, except you actually got the soundtrack to an artist losing their mind rather than a charmingly unhinged pop album. Or more contemporaneously, the audio equivalent of Minaj and Katy Perry’s annual attempts to outweird Lady Gaga on the red carpet of the Grammys: pointless and futile.
Being an album whose rap half boasts features from Cam’ron, Nas and Lil’ Wayne as well as 2 Chainz’ usual dose of pure machismo, there are a few highlights. If “I Am Your Leader” were Minaj-less or “Beez in the Trap” two verses shorter, they could find strength in the summer. But, again, conservatism is not what you would come to Roman Reloaded. You’re here for an album where Nicki Minaj claims “only thing pop is my endorsements” 15 minutes before an entire section of boring, trite attempts at playing Katy Perry or Rihanna (particularly “Marilyn Monroe”, which comes complete with Rihanna’s islander vocal affectations). You’re here to listen to a Kool Keith album from his late-2000s dark period as interpreted by your kid sister’s Barbie collection… you’re here, honestly, because you’re an audiomasochist.
“Stupid Hoe”, infamous for its number of dislikes on YouTube and BET’s banning of the video, is dumped at the end of the tracklisting for reasons unknown. One might think it was to admit the song was a mistake, but the rest of the album certainly doesn’t try to make that case. If it’s to remind us that Minaj is a rapper after 30 minutes of frilly, unessential pop music that only succeeds at being far less annoying than Minaj doing what she’s marketed for, then I suppose it succeeds. But only insomuch as to put the final nail in the coffin of Minaj’s fading hype as a true talent. If Nicki Minaj were Tracy McGrady, this would be the point in her career where her back gives out and she unceremoniously fades from the highlight reels and marque. To quote her Young Money compatriot Drake, Nicki, “I’m just sayin’ you could do better. Tell me have you heard that lately?”
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Counts for Metacritic
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/review/...oman-reloaded/
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by Amaru
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To quote her Young Money compatriot Drake, Nicki, “I’m just sayin’ you could do better. Tell me have you heard that lately?”
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LOL
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Member Since: 10/3/2010
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Originally posted by PopBoi
it's getting bad reviews because its a terrible album.
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+1!!!
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Member Since: 11/6/2011
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this album is terrible
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Member Since: 3/26/2011
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
LOL
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That was pretty genius.
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Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
This won't have any affect on its commercial success, though. At least 400k first week. I'd be shocked at a smaller number.
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In the US or WW ? lol
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Originally posted by ElectricFrancis
Pressed about what?
Can't find a reason tbh.
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Me neither
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Member Since: 5/1/2011
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At least now we can all agree (critics and public) that the 2nd half of the album is so annoying and painful to listen..
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Originally posted by JasperX
Plain bad album (though with a few stand out tracks)
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You're wrong there's no such thing as a "stand out" songs, they're all generic and rip-offs.. Stand out songs are like Romans Revenge and Did It On Em were to PF.
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People keep saying 400k first week, but I don't know. I think y'all are saying that because of her last album's first week sales. The pre-order never cracked the top ten, so I don't think people are as excited for this album. I think the album will sell around 1-3m WW when it's all said and done.
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Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker
People keep saying 400k first week, but I don't know. I think y'all are saying that because of her last album's first week sales. The pre-order never cracked the top ten, so I don't think people are as excited for this album. I think the album will sell around 1-3m WW when it's all said and done.
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With the reception of Stupid Hoe, and Starships "selling out" situation, i doubt too that she'll pull +400k, the hype with PF was actually kinda positive, not so much with PF RR.
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Originally posted by EOMM92
With the reception of Stupid Hoe, and Starships "selling out" situation, i doubt too that she'll pull +400k, the hype with PF was actually kinda positive, not so much with PF RR.
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I totally agree. People were excited for her with PF because she was a new hip hop girl in the game, but over the past year or so, she has morphed into nothing but another pop girl.
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