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Discussion: Are some artists below others and is it fair?
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
Writer(s)
1. "Mad House" Makeba Riddick, Will Kennard, Saul Milton, Robyn Fenty
3. "Hard" (featuring Young Jeezy) Terius Nash, Christopher Stewart, Robyn Fenty, Jay Jenkins Tricky Stewart
5. "Rockstar 101" (featuring Slash) Nash, Stewart, Robyn Fenty, Tricky Stewart
7. "Fire Bomb" Fauntleroy II, Brian Kennedy, Robyn Fenty 4:17
8. "Rude Boy" Eriksen, Hermansen, Ester Dean, Riddick, Rob Swire, Robyn Fenty
10. "G4L" Kennard, Milton, Fauntleroy II, Robyn Fenty
11. "Te Amo" Eriksen, Hermansen, Fauntleroy II, Robyn Fenty
13. "The Last Song" Fauntleroy II, Kennedy, Ben Harrison, Robyn Fenty
2. "Here I Go Again" (featuring J-Status) Rogers, Sturken, J-Status, Robyn Fenty
3. "Willing to Wait" Rogers, Sturken, Nathan Watts, Robyn Fenty
8. "Music of the Sun" Diane Warren, Rogers, Sturken, Robyn Fenty
9. "Now I Know" Rogers, Sturken, Robyn Fenty
11. "A Girl like Me" Robyn Fenty, Rogers Sturken,
12. "Kisses Don't Lie" Evan Rogers, Carl Sturken, Robyn Fenty
13. "Break It Off" Sean Paul Henriques, Robyn Fenty, Donovan Bennett, K. Ford
2. "Run This Town" Shawn Carter, Robyn Fenty, Kanye West, Ernest Wilson, Jeff Bhasker, Alatas Athanasios |
that's like 1% of her discography 
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Member Since: 11/12/2011
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Originally posted by Chemist
Fixed that for you
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You gave Ke$ha and Katy a 2 for dancing but you gave Gaga a 1???????? And then you giving Gaga the same score as Rihanna in singing? And giving Ke$ha a 4 in instruments?
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I do think that in terms of critics and people in the industry, artists like Nicki and Rihanna get as much coverage/respect as Beyoncé/Gaga/Britney. And I'm sure that a large amount of the general public considers all of them, Katy and Kesha included, similar in a lot of ways. Outside of ATRL, they're not as uneven as people here think.
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
Writer(s)
1. "Mad House" Makeba Riddick, Will Kennard, Saul Milton, Robyn Fenty
3. "Hard" (featuring Young Jeezy) Terius Nash, Christopher Stewart, Robyn Fenty, Jay Jenkins Tricky Stewart
5. "Rockstar 101" (featuring Slash) Nash, Stewart, Robyn Fenty, Tricky Stewart
7. "Fire Bomb" Fauntleroy II, Brian Kennedy, Robyn Fenty 4:17
8. "Rude Boy" Eriksen, Hermansen, Ester Dean, Riddick, Rob Swire, Robyn Fenty
10. "G4L" Kennard, Milton, Fauntleroy II, Robyn Fenty
11. "Te Amo" Eriksen, Hermansen, Fauntleroy II, Robyn Fenty
13. "The Last Song" Fauntleroy II, Kennedy, Ben Harrison, Robyn Fenty
2. "Here I Go Again" (featuring J-Status) Rogers, Sturken, J-Status, Robyn Fenty
3. "Willing to Wait" Rogers, Sturken, Nathan Watts, Robyn Fenty
8. "Music of the Sun" Diane Warren, Rogers, Sturken, Robyn Fenty
9. "Now I Know" Rogers, Sturken, Robyn Fenty
11. "A Girl like Me" Robyn Fenty, Rogers Sturken,
12. "Kisses Don't Lie" Evan Rogers, Carl Sturken, Robyn Fenty
13. "Break It Off" Sean Paul Henriques, Robyn Fenty, Donovan Bennett, K. Ford
2. "Run This Town" Shawn Carter, Robyn Fenty, Kanye West, Ernest Wilson, Jeff Bhasker, Alatas Athanasios
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DEAD at being the last name on every one. She probably added some 'and's', 'or's' or 'the's' in each song.
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Member Since: 8/24/2011
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Originally posted by Yourfavefan
Talent wise:
Adele (singing 5, lyrics 5, dancing n/a, instruments no idea= 10)
Gaga ( Singing 4, lyrics 4, dancing 3, instruments 4 = 15)
Beyonce ( Singing 5, Lyrics 1, Dancing 5, Instruments n/a = 11)
Rihanna ( Singing 4, Lyrics n/a, Dancing 3, Instruments n/a = 7)
Katy ( Singing 3, Lyrics 2, Dancing 2, Instruments idk = 7)
Ke$ha ( Singing 3, Lyrics 4, Dancing 3, Instruments 4 = 14)
Britney ( Singing n/a, Lyrics 2, Dancing 4, Instruments n/a = 6
Old Britney ( Singing 3, Lyrics 2, Dancing 5, Instruments 2 = 12)
So those are the points accumulated which would rank them as such:
1) Gaga
2) Ke$ha
3) Old Britney
4) Beyonce*
5) Adele*
6) Rihanna, Katy*
8) Britney
*= Not enough knowledge about artist.
And this is the list now considering talent lbr
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LORD .
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
Writer(s)
"Mad House" Makeba Riddick, Will Kennard, Saul Milton, Robyn Fenty
"Hard" (featuring Young Jeezy) Terius Nash, Christopher Stewart, Robyn Fenty, Jay Jenkins Tricky Stewart
"Rockstar 101" (featuring Slash) Nash, Stewart, Robyn Fenty, Tricky Stewart
"Fire Bomb" Fauntleroy II, Brian Kennedy, Robyn Fenty
"Rude Boy" Eriksen, Hermansen, Ester Dean, Riddick, Rob Swire, Robyn Fenty
"G4L" Kennard, Milton, Fauntleroy II, Robyn Fenty
"Te Amo" Eriksen, Hermansen, Fauntleroy II, Robyn Fenty
"The Last Song" Fauntleroy II, Kennedy, Ben Harrison, Robyn Fenty
"Here I Go Again" (featuring J-Status) Rogers, Sturken, J-Status, Robyn Fenty
"Willing to Wait" Rogers, Sturken, Nathan Watts, Robyn Fenty
"Music of the Sun" Diane Warren, Rogers, Sturken, Robyn Fenty
"Now I Know" Rogers, Sturken, Robyn Fenty
"A Girl like Me" Robyn Fenty, Rogers Sturken,
"Kisses Don't Lie" Evan Rogers, Carl Sturken, Robyn Fenty
"Break It Off" Sean Paul Henriques, Robyn Fenty, Donovan Bennett, K. Ford
"Run This Town" Shawn Carter, Robyn Fenty, Kanye West, Ernest Wilson, Jeff Bhasker, Alatas Athanasios
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Sis this isn't really helping you
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Member Since: 3/7/2011
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Originally posted by Chemist
Fixed that for you
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I can take your comment more seriously now. BUT Ke$ha still isn't 1 in singing. She has the voice for a 3 tbh
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
Writer(s)
1. "Mad House" Makeba Riddick, Will Kennard, Saul Milton, Robyn Fenty
3. "Hard" (featuring Young Jeezy) Terius Nash, Christopher Stewart, Robyn Fenty, Jay Jenkins Tricky Stewart
5. "Rockstar 101" (featuring Slash) Nash, Stewart, Robyn Fenty, Tricky Stewart
7. "Fire Bomb" Fauntleroy II, Brian Kennedy, Robyn Fenty 4:17
8. "Rude Boy" Eriksen, Hermansen, Ester Dean, Riddick, Rob Swire, Robyn Fenty
10. "G4L" Kennard, Milton, Fauntleroy II, Robyn Fenty
11. "Te Amo" Eriksen, Hermansen, Fauntleroy II, Robyn Fenty
13. "The Last Song" Fauntleroy II, Kennedy, Ben Harrison, Robyn Fenty
2. "Here I Go Again" (featuring J-Status) Rogers, Sturken, J-Status, Robyn Fenty
3. "Willing to Wait" Rogers, Sturken, Nathan Watts, Robyn Fenty
8. "Music of the Sun" Diane Warren, Rogers, Sturken, Robyn Fenty
9. "Now I Know" Rogers, Sturken, Robyn Fenty
11. "A Girl like Me" Robyn Fenty, Rogers Sturken,
12. "Kisses Don't Lie" Evan Rogers, Carl Sturken, Robyn Fenty
13. "Break It Off" Sean Paul Henriques, Robyn Fenty, Donovan Bennett, K. Ford
2. "Run This Town" Shawn Carter, Robyn Fenty, Kanye West, Ernest Wilson, Jeff Bhasker, Alatas Athanasios
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She is LAST in practically all of those credits meaning she wrote the least. For all we know she could've just added one word or line.
I love the bitch but let's not do too much now.
Britney's written more songs and several of them have her as the FIRST writer meaning she wrote the most.
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Originally posted by Marvin
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lmaoo u made that ur signature thing 
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Member Since: 6/3/2011
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Adele and Beyoncé are the only ones who are really apart from the others.
Gaga does have talent but she's just a "freak" to non-ATRLers / non-music stans.
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Member Since: 2/25/2012
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Originally posted by mariska
That... and when she decided to dress up as a stuffed animal ninja. Or with the wigs, etc, etc.
Nicki basically jacked Gaga's whole "I'm weird" thing and used it for herself. Katy's E.T video had eccentric visuals despite the song being about alien sex. She could have easily made that video into what she normally does, but instead she went all weird.
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But didn't Gaga just take Madonna's whole outrageous outfit thing and raise it to the next level? Gaga has changed the pop genre, as far as performances and the visuals. But I think people can wear strange outfits without the comparisons to Gaga. Ugh.
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Member Since: 12/6/2010
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Sorry, but I'm sure the general public thinks Rihanna and Katy are above Nicki (even though I love her) and Kesha.
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Member Since: 8/31/2011
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lmao any1 can get a writing credit and no1 will ever try to prove that they didn't write it. U can change 3 words of a song and get writing credits it's all business and MONEY. Some people could of helped some1 write a song but they don't ask for writing credits (dumbasses yes, but they do it) and just get a big fat check lol
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Member Since: 7/9/2010
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Originally posted by Corefield
Sorry, but I'm sure the general public thinks Rihanna and Katy are above Nicki (even though I love her) and Kesha.
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Especially after Nicki gave that Grammy performance & the critics slammed her for it
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Member Since: 11/10/2011
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I kind of agree with this thread. Apart from in no way is Lady Gaga on the same level as Britney and Beyonce lol. Britney and Beyonce have been in pop music since I was a little child. Lady Gaga released her first single when I was in college. She's been around for like 2 years. Maybe in 2020 you can list her with the greats, but not this soon.
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Member Since: 8/8/2006
Posts: 42,086
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Originally posted by mariska
You gave Ke$ha and Katy a 2 for dancing but you gave Gaga a 1???????? And then you giving Gaga the same score as Rihanna in singing? And giving Ke$ha a 4 in instruments?
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Wait Rihanna deserved way less in singing I didn't see it my mistake 
And IDK about Kesha's instruments talent, so I put it like he said
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
Writer(s)
"Mad House" Makeba Riddick, Will Kennard, Saul Milton, Robyn Fenty
"Hard" (featuring Young Jeezy) Terius Nash, Christopher Stewart, Robyn Fenty, Jay Jenkins Tricky Stewart
"Rockstar 101" (featuring Slash) Nash, Stewart, Robyn Fenty, Tricky Stewart
"Fire Bomb" Fauntleroy II, Brian Kennedy, Robyn Fenty
"Rude Boy" Eriksen, Hermansen, Ester Dean, Riddick, Rob Swire, Robyn Fenty
"G4L" Kennard, Milton, Fauntleroy II, Robyn Fenty
"Te Amo" Eriksen, Hermansen, Fauntleroy II, Robyn Fenty
"The Last Song" Fauntleroy II, Kennedy, Ben Harrison, Robyn Fenty
"Here I Go Again" (featuring J-Status) Rogers, Sturken, J-Status, Robyn Fenty
"Willing to Wait" Rogers, Sturken, Nathan Watts, Robyn Fenty
"Music of the Sun" Diane Warren, Rogers, Sturken, Robyn Fenty
"Now I Know" Rogers, Sturken, Robyn Fenty
"A Girl like Me" Robyn Fenty, Rogers Sturken,
"Kisses Don't Lie" Evan Rogers, Carl Sturken, Robyn Fenty
"Break It Off" Sean Paul Henriques, Robyn Fenty, Donovan Bennett, K. Ford
"Run This Town" Shawn Carter, Robyn Fenty, Kanye West, Ernest Wilson, Jeff Bhasker, Alatas Athanasios
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That's not a lot.
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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Originally posted by Muggwa
I do think that in terms of critics and people in the industry, artists like Nicki and Rihanna get as much coverage/respect as Beyoncé/Gaga/Britney.
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LOL No.
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Originally posted by Muggwa
I do think that in terms of critics and people in the industry, artists like Nicki and Rihanna get as much coverage/respect as Beyoncé/Gaga/Britney. And I'm sure that a large amount of the general public considers all of them, Katy and Kesha included, similar in a lot of ways. Outside of ATRL, they're not as uneven as people here think.
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Did you mess up?
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by fortheloveofmusic
lmaoo u made that ur signature thing |
Lol that was the funniest post on ATRL I've seen so far.
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