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News: Serena Williams exposed as disgusting victim blamer.
Member Since: 11/17/2011
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I hope none of you are EVER victimized in such a way. Because you will go through all of the mental head talk about how I "should have, would have, and could have" but at the end that all doesn't matter. No one should violate you in ANY way. It doesn't matter what you could have done, because the fact is that they did what they did and that is done. Doesn't mean that you can't learn from the experience, but it doesn't make it any of your fault either.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
Posts: 6,046
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Originally posted by TheAqua
Oh boy....
Okay so lets just say I'm partly "blaming" the victim,in a way; You know whats right and you know whats wrong.Yes in human nature sometimes we get caught up in things that werent even meant to be,but all I AM saying is that no rape is not deserved,but chances are higher if you are carefree and reckless.
I understand that family members rape other family members in incest, babies, elderly etc I get it,but the difference is they aren't always intoxicated like this girl was. She was being sloppy,and as under the influence. If she hadn't been drunk and was sober,she probably could have left if she felt uncomfortable or told someone of harassment prior to the raping. BUT SINCE HER AS WAS FAULT OUT PASSED OUT that is what happened.
It's cause and effect bay,no more simpler than that.
Why are you so thick headed??? ![confused](http://www.atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/confused.gif)
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are you stupid
why would it be her fault if she was raped what kind of "preventative" measures do you take so you wont get raped. i think we should all be shut ins if thats the case, i mean you can always take "preventative" measures to stop a dumbass from pulling a crime on you if you just stay inside the home right
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
Posts: 52,363
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let me use some more of you guys ****ed up logic
The rapist have no wrong in this...they couldn't control their actions but the girl definitely had control over what she did...she forced them to come on to her...shame on her
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by castrobabytiger
let me use some more of you guys ****ed up logic
The rapist have no wrong in this...they couldn't control their actions but the girl definitely had control over what she did...she forced them to come on to her...shame on her
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how dare she have fun
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Member Since: 7/9/2010
Posts: 28,061
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WHY THE **** ARE WE EVEN ARGUING ABOUT RAPE.
There is nothing to argue. The fault lies on the rapist, never on the victim.
NEVER. If I want to drink, dress provocative, etc.. then I CAN. That does not give ANYONE the right to rape me.
**** outta here with that ignorant rape culture mentality.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
Posts: 27,495
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Everyone has to make better decisions but the rapists.
I understand now.
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That's not what most of us are saying. Of course rapist should change. But there will always be rape in our societies, and it's not uncommon. Of course this should change, but it hasn't yet. So if you do something that knowingly puts you at risk for rape, you have made the choice to do so. For example, when Emily Wilson tweeted a picture of her credit card, people weren't defending that girl. No one was like, "she should be able to share her credit card details in peace". And that's because in reality, humans are selfish, people steal. So it's still her fault. You can't blame society for everything that happens to you. Again, I'm not saying that all rape is preventable. But in some cases, girls could make more thoughtful decisions.
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Member Since: 2/18/2012
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Everyone has to make better decisions but the rapists.
I understand now.
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Sigh.
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Member Since: 9/14/2010
Posts: 78,921
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Originally posted by Stephen
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Lowering your chances of being raped is something we can do.
If there was something we could do to prevent rapists from existing, we'd be saying that.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
Posts: 6,046
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Originally posted by Javan
That's not what most of us are saying. Of course rapist should change. But there will always be rape in our societies, and it's not uncommon. Of course this should change, but it hasn't yet. So if you do something that knowingly puts you at risk for rape, you have made the choice to do so. For example, when Emily Wilson tweeted a picture of her credit card, people weren't defending that girl. No one was like, "she should be able to share her credit card details in peace". And that's because in reality, humans are selfish, people steal. So it's still her fault. You can't blame society for everything that happens to you. Again, I'm not saying that all rape is preventable. But in some cases, girls could make more thoughtful decisions.
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why are you comparing a credit card to rape
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
Posts: 52,363
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Originally posted by Starburst
Tha **** you quoting me for? Are you guys really saying you don't go to clubs with friends who have your back? SORRY, PREPOSTEROUS STATEMENT.
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im a guy and can defend myself perfectly...I don't need back up
The only time I need back up is when I want to gang rape a girl who passed out because she brought it on her self
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
Posts: 25,077
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
WHY THE **** ARE WE EVEN ARGUING ABOUT RAPE.
There is nothing to argue. The fault lies on the rapist, never on the victim.
NEVER. If I want to drink, dress provocative, etc.. then I CAN. That does not give ANYONE the right to rape me.
**** outta here with that ignorant rape culture mentality.
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Your best post to date ![party](images/smilies/images/smilies/party.gif) but seriously i agree
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Member Since: 7/9/2010
Posts: 28,061
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Originally posted by Javan
That's not what most of us are saying. Of course rapist should change. But there will always be rape in our societies, and it's not uncommon. Of course this should change, but it hasn't yet. So if you do something that knowingly puts you at risk for rape, you have made the choice to do so. For example, when Emily Wilson tweeted a picture of her credit card, people weren't defending that girl. No one was like, "she should be able to share her credit card details in peace". And that's because in reality, humans are selfish, people steal. So it's still her fault. You can't blame society for everything that happens to you. Again, I'm not saying that all rape is preventable. But in some cases, girls could make more thoughtful decisions.
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Thoughtful decisions over what? No one should worry about being raped, no one should make decisions to prevent rape. It is the rapist who should control himself, not the potential victim.
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Member Since: 5/7/2012
Posts: 8,404
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I grew up 20 minutes away from Steubenville, people in that tri-state area of Ohio, Pa, WV are the ultimate hicks. People only care about sports and booze the girl's probably been drinking since she was 12 IJS.
Serena's not wrong, parents need to start raising their children better.
The boys and the girls.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
Posts: 6,046
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Originally posted by J a y
Lowering your chances of being raped is something we can do.
If there was something we could do to prevent rapists, we'd be saying that.
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such as?
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Member Since: 10/4/2011
Posts: 2,331
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Nothing wrong with what she was trying to say. She just didn't word it properly.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
Posts: 29,579
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Originally posted by TheAqua
Oh boy....
Okay so lets just say I'm partly "blaming" the victim,in a way; You know whats right and you know whats wrong.Yes in human nature sometimes we get caught up in things that werent even meant to be,but all I AM saying is that no rape is not deserved,but chances are higher if you are carefree and reckless.
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There are many ways your chances can be 'increased'. You can come up with any excuse as to why a woman was raped, and blame her with that. Some might consider going to a party carefree and reckless. Some might consider having a few drinks carefree and reckless. Some might consider going to a party with mostly guys to be carefree and reckless. There's no point in dissecting the victim's behavior.
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Member Since: 3/13/2011
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Oh chile..
Talk about overreaction. I dont think Serena condones RAPE!
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
Posts: 51,546
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Originally posted by 8=K=A=Y=B=E=E=D
Again, how many times does it have to be said that there really aren't any preventative measures that can be taken to protect yourself from being raped? Please go find me profile of a prototypical rapist. I'll wait.
Some people get drugged by their friends or people they trust. Kids get molested by their parents and pastors. People get murdered by loved ones. You never know.
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This is another issue for this thread. It's basically going off-topic. I disagree mostly with these kind of posts. There are different types of rape situations. YOU just listed them. It can be a father touching his children. It can be someone getting too drunk and becoming vulnerable to the predator watching. It can be someone being drugged. The child can't defend themselves or "avoid" their father. And they won't tell from fear. A person, or in THIS case, the girl could have been safer as she is older and should know about the dangers she faces in a party situation, where there are drinks and possibly reckless monsters.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
Posts: 27,495
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
Nah. This doesn't work.
Walking into a dangerous neighborhood whilst strapped with cash is not the same thing as being drunken and raped. It is very likely that you will know which neighborhoods are dangerous and it is your responsibility to know. There is no way for a girl to know which man will rape her - it could be her own father whom she loves dearly! It is certainly not a girl's responsibility to interview and investigate every man she encounters - and that's what she would have to do if she wanted to know where it would be safe to be drunk because again, you never know who will rape you.
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You don't have to know which man would rape you. But you would be aware of the obvious risk. So it does work.
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
Posts: 25,077
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Originally posted by DimmiFenty
I grew up 20 minutes away from Steubenville, people in that tri-state area of Ohio, Pa, WV are the ultimate hicks. People only care about sports and booze the girl's probably been drinking since she was 12 IJS.
Serena's not wrong, parents need to start raising their children better.
The boys and the girls.
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or maybe parents needs to start educating their children not to ****ing rape anyone ever
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