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Discussion: The Voice helped Xtina get some success but not Shakira
Member Since: 10/16/2005
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Originally posted by Sasha Pieterse
so basically xtina is more successful if you disregard shakira's numbers
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Basically. Also, atrlster will argue with you that Shakira's last 2 world tours are somehow worse than the non-existent Bionic Tour and Lotus Tour.
Don't pay too much attention to what she says. She tries to drag Shakira for anything. It's basically a mess and devoid of logic.
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Member Since: 8/22/2010
Posts: 12,270
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Originally posted by abrahamjmr
I can't let the Fighters insult Shakira.
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Nobody's trying to insult her. But to totally dismiss Christina's singles and then cling to Shakira doing marginally higher album numbers and a higher peak due to Streaming when YB didn't even have that and then to bring in all sorts of international stats makes no sense at all
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Member Since: 11/6/2011
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Originally posted by KING.
"Can't Remember to Forget You" has double the amount of views that "Your Body" has in a marginally less amount of time, so I'm not sure about the phrase "much higher".
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Video views /= sales. Anyonce can view a 3 minute video and then never buy / hear the song again. Also, she obviously has a much bigger Latin audience as well which clearly got her more views as evidenced by the high views yet not so big peak on the US BB chart.
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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At the end of the day, The Voice audience isn't here for either of them, mainly because the majority are vicious bloodsucking housewives
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Member Since: 8/22/2010
Posts: 12,270
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Originally posted by vuelve88
Basically. Also, atrlster will argue with you that Shakira's last 2 world tours are somehow worse than the non-existent Bionic Tour and Lotus Tour.
Don't pay too much attention to what she says. She tries to drag Shakira for anything. It's basically a mess and devoid of logic.
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Funny, I never said anything like that. But keep making more excuses to make Shakira look less of a flop
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by KING.
Shakira's stint on The Voice is focused on developing her artists (albeit unsuccessfully, besides Greatest The Voice contestant Sasha Allen™), whereas Christina's stint seems to be focused on promoting her own music and finding a Christina mini-me.
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No lies detected tho.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
She didn't perform any new music in Season 1 or 2. Also, Chris Mann, Dez and Beverly, 3 out of her 4 finalists were nothing like her. 2 of them didn't even do pop music.
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Her most successful contestant and arguably the one she was most invested in, Jacquie Lee, was Christina's clone.
She coached an army of Christina mini-me's with Adriana Louise, Devyn DeLoera, and Sylvia Yacoub in season 3, even discarding then-fan-favorite De'borah for one of them - only for her to be eliminated the week after!
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Member Since: 12/29/2006
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Originally posted by vuelve88
Don't entertain atrlster. She's basically a troll.
Shakira's making Live Nation, Roc Nation, and fans happy, and that's what matters. Bring on the next tour!
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The Bionic Tour wasn't cancelled for low sales, in fact...
And she never promised us a Lotus tour, So you can't come with that!
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Member Since: 10/16/2005
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Originally posted by atrlster
No, I'm saying Shakira has flop numbers too. Her album didn't do THAT much better to make up for her single flops
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Shakira is with Live Nation under a 360 degree contract, meaning that they're concerned with all business regarding the Shakira brand, including her music, TV gig, endorsements, merchandise, and touring. They take a cut of all these things.
She's doing fine. Live Nation/Roc Nation isn't just concerned with her album and single sales.
She's still going to have her tour.
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by atrlster
Funny, I never said anything like that. But keep making more excuses to make Shakira look less of a flop
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How is she a flop tho? I don't get it because her album is already doing better than Lotus...
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Member Since: 11/6/2011
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Originally posted by KING.
Her most successful contestant and arguably the one she was most invested in, Jacquie Lee, was Christina's clone.
She coached an army of Christina mini-me's with Adriana Louise, Devyn DeLoera, and Sylvia Yacoub in season 3, even discarding then-fan-favorite De'borah for one of them - only for her to be eliminated the week after!
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Gurl you are acting like any of us give a **** about the majority of their contestants I was rooting for Cassaddee on season 3 who was on Blake's team and happened to like Jacquie season 5. It's not that deep.
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by vuelve88
Shakira is with Live Nation under a 360 degree contract, meaning that they're concerned with all business regarding the Shakira brand, including her music, TV gig, endorsements, merchandise, and touring. They take a cut of all these things.
She's doing fine. Live Nation/Roc Nation isn't just concerned with her album and single sales.
She's still going to have her tour.
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That's the most important thing about being a successful artist. If you can't go on tour, I don't know.
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Member Since: 8/22/2010
Posts: 12,270
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Originally posted by KING.
Her most successful contestant and arguably the one she was most invested in, Jacquie Lee, was Christina's clone.
She coached an army of Christina mini-me's with Adriana Louise, Devyn DeLoera, and Sylvia Yacoub in season 3, even discarding then-fan-favorite De'borah for one of them - only for her to be eliminated the week after!
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Jacquie finished higher but Id say Chris Mann is her most successful contestant, and he's an Opera singer. Nevertheless, that doesn't invalidate what Truth Teller said. Most of her finalists are nothing like her
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Member Since: 8/22/2010
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Originally posted by vuelve88
Shakira is with Live Nation under a 360 degree contract, meaning that they're concerned with all business regarding the Shakira brand, including her music, TV gig, endorsements, merchandise, and touring. They take a cut of all these things.
She's doing fine. Live Nation/Roc Nation isn't just concerned with her album and single sales.
She's still going to have her tour.
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And the excuses keep pouring in
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Member Since: 10/16/2005
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Originally posted by EdicsonHades
The Bionic Tour wasn't cancelled for low sales, in fact...
And she never promised us a Lotus tour, So you can't come with that!
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I'm not coming for that. I'm saying that in atrlster's mind 2 successful world tours by Shakira is worse than no tours.
Atrlster is a troll. If she wouldn't try so hard, I wouldn't have to defend Shakira.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Its getting REAL up in here
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Member Since: 11/6/2011
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Originally posted by Shakira Stan
That's the most important thing about being a successful artist. If you can't go on tour, I don't know.
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Clearly Xtina cancelled Bionc Tour for personal reasons (hmm maybe her divorce?!) and never even announced a Lotus Tour so keep reaching.
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Member Since: 10/16/2005
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Originally posted by atrlster
And the excuses keep pouring in
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This is not an excuse, troll. It's her contract and business model. She has the same contract with Live Nation as Madonna, U2, and Jay-Z.
If you can't understand that Shakira is making a lot of money for Live Nation/Roc Nation, then I guess that's your problem. lol
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Member Since: 12/29/2006
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Originally posted by T!na
At the end of the day, The Voice audience isn't here for either of them, mainly because the majority are vicious bloodsucking housewives
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The TEA!!
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