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Originally posted by atrlster
It was shifting to the Alt/Indie/Folk stuff a bit, but urban stuff was still excluded. Dance/EDM stuff was still seen as the main form of uptempo music for pop radio.
Suit and Tie spent like about 8 weeks in the Top 10 and peaked at #3. I'd say it was a true pop hit. Not the biggest of course, but big enough to open the doors. And what made it have more impact was that it was such an R&B song. Arguably his most R&B single besides Until The End Of Time. It wasn't something crossover like Mirrors or Cry Me A River.
I think Adele had more to do with the Alt/Indie/Folk movement. I don't really think people see her as R&B/Urban, or at least enough for this kind of change, and even if they did Set Fire To The Rain and Someone like You were much more pop. I think Bruno Mars should get some credit though too.
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Most of those songs you named are not "urban" or aren't even charting on the "urban" chart, so it seems that you are making up trends.
Sorry, but while "Suit & Tie" was a hit, I fail to see how a song that peaked @ #3 on CHR and #4 on pop songs would start a trend. It just doesn't seem like a big stat to start a "trend." It's decent, but nothing groundbreaking. We'll always have those not-so-pop hits sneak in and get a decent position on the charts, but it's always the massive songs that truly start a trend. Prove me wrong.
And many people view Adele as "R&B." If songs by Ariana Grande and Daft Punk are considered apart of the "urban" trend (which still isn't really strong despite a few exceptions), then certainly Adele's songs could be thrown in the mix as well. Regardless, I don't see how "the EDM slant was lessened by Suit and Tie proving that urban/R&B/funk music could work." The EDM slant was lessened long before "Suit & Tie." That song is a product, not a catalyst.
It's cute that Justin has defenders here, but his power is being overestimated.
Robin sounds pressed, but I don't care, I like them both 
