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Discussion: Is Lana the biggest female newcomer of the decade?
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Originally posted by HotHeaven
if you did your research, you would see that Lana stopped promoting Ultraviolence, actually she didnt promote much to begin with, but still.. Ariana is still promoting, making videos, performing, and so is Nicki.
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Nicki hasn't promoted since January 
And you can't use the "no promo" excuse because according to some of the members above BTD sold just fine without "promo".
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Originally posted by Raava
Lorde is bigger and also more critically acclaimed.
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Lorde would never sell 6 million WW and Pure Heroine didn't make two dozen end-of-year lists by top critics like UV. She had one big hit and an her album sold relatively well as a result.
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Originally posted by HotHeaven
That's very cool and honestly A+ for effort, but in order for nicki to sell albums she needs a massive hit. And I wont even get into the fact that Nicki's album are not cohesive at all, unlike lana's.
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This thread has nothing to do with having "cohesive albums". It has to do with which female recording artist has made the biggest impact since 2010. Only when stanning for Lana does having massive hits somehow become a strike against other artists.
Fact: Nicki has more hits than Lana. Nicki probably has longer tour receipts than Lana. Nicki has more #1 albums than Lana. As for impact? Nicki has more endorsements than Lana, and these brands wouldn't be paying Nicki to promote their products if she didn't have impact. In terms of music impact, what was Fancy if not 2014's Superbase? Where would Iggy and Azealia be had Nicki reignited interest in female emcees? All Lana can boast over Nicki is BTD's sales. Meanwhile, Nicki's become a branded mogul with receipts in film, television, fashion, fragrance, pop, and hip-hop. All of which make her the biggest female artist to drop a debut album in the 2010's.
All of this, "Oh UV and Lana could have been so huge if she had promoted and made it more commercial" is for the birds. Could've, should've . . . didn't.
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Originally posted by Raava
Lorde is bigger and also more critically acclaimed.
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1 massive hit and 2 grammys doesnt mean much compared to Lana's influence and ONGOING delivery everytime she puts out music.
But still I will give Lorde the benifit of the doubt with her next album, it will either make or break her.
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Originally posted by suburbannature
Lorde would never sell 6 million WW and Pure Heroine didn't make two dozen end-of-year lists by top critics. She had one big hit and an her album sold relatively well as a result.
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Royals >> Lana
Literally no one outside of gays on the internet care about Lana and her "6 Million WW" selling album.
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ultraviolence 3/4 months released - no promo, no hit, no radio support and not a single collab
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@chartnews: WW sales: @LanaDelRey, Ultraviolence (1,046,000 total).
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the pinkprint 3/4 months released - massive promo, viral "hit", collabs, radio support, released on black friday week, interview, performances
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@chartnews: WW sales: @NICKIMINAJ, The Pinkprint (730,000 total).
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Originally posted by uhoh-ohno
This thread has nothing to do with having "cohesive albums". It has to do with which female recording artist has made the biggest impact since 2010. Only when stanning for Lana does having massive hits somehow become a strike against other artists.
Fact: Nicki has more hits than Lana. Nicki probably has longer tour receipts than Lana. Nicki has more #1 albums than Lana. As for impact? Nicki has more endorsements than Lana, and these brands wouldn't be paying Nicki to promote their products if she didn't have impact. In terms of music impact, what was Fancy if not 2014's Superbase? Where would Iggy and Azealia be had Nicki reignited interest in female emcees? All Lana can boast over Nicki is BTD's sales. Meanwhile, Nicki's become a branded mogul with receipts in film, television, fashion, fragrance, pop, and hip-hop. All of which make her the biggest female artist to drop a debut album in the 2010's.
All of this, "Oh UV and Lana could have been so huge if she had promoted and made it more commercial" is for the birds. Could've, should've . . . didn't.
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The delusion 
Worldwide, Lana is much bigger than Nicki. There's really no way around that.
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Originally posted by suburbannature
Lorde would never sell 6 million WW and Pure Heroine didn't make two dozen end-of-year lists by top critics like UV. She had one big hit and an her album sold relatively well as a result.
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We can't compare their album sales, considering Lana's Born To Die came way before Lorde's Pure Heroine. And... "Dozen end-of-year lists"? Lana didn't end up even on the top 10 most acclaimed albums of 2014. Plus Lorde has 2 Grammy's 
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Originally posted by ultraviolento
ultraviolence 3/4 months released - no promo, no hit, no radio support and not a single collab
the pinkprint 3/4 months released - massive promo, viral "hit", collabs, radio support, released on black friday week, interview, performances
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UV is at 1.3 million now.
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
Nicki hasn't promoted since January
And you can't use the "no promo" excuse because according to some of the members above BTD sold just fine without "promo". |
Lana's album was released last June, she stopped promoting 1 month after basically.
Nicki have been doing remixes with the likes of BEYONCÉ, despite not being for her album, it still gives her promos, but you tried.
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TPP wasn't even released on BF weekend 
And of course Lana would be much bigger WW she's a pop-artist
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Originally posted by Raava
We can't compare their album sales, considering Lana's Born To Die came way before Lorde's Pure Heroine. And... "Dozen end-of-year lists"? Lana didn't end up even on the top 10 most acclaimed albums of 2014. Plus Lorde has 2 Grammy's |
Two dozen, actually.
Boston Globe - #1
The Early Registration - #1
Dazed - #3
Amazon - #4
Entertainment Weekly - #4
Variance Magazine - #5
Idolator - #5
TIME - #6
Vulture - #6
RollingStone - #7
Cosmopolitan - #7
Pretty Much Amazing - #10
Crack Magazine - #10
Gorilla vs. Bear - #10
Stereogum - #12
Digital Spy - #14
Gigwise - #15
Q Magazine - #19
The Sunday Times - #22
NME - #25
Faster Louder - #30
MOJO - #40
SPIN - #41
PopMatters - #73
I also just saw that Video Games is the 3rd most acclaimed single of the decade...pretty incredible. #138 of all time.
She had started to win the critics back over (after some pretty false and unwarranted personal attacks when BTD was released) with Ride, Paradise EP, Young and Beautiful (and the Grammy nominations for the latter two), but the acclaim for Ultraviolence and Golden Globe nomination have solidified it.
There also wouldn't be a Pure Heroine without Born to Die.
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Originally posted by HotHeaven
Lana's album was released last June, she stopped promoting 1 month after basically.
Nicki have been doing remixes with the likes of BEYONCÉ, despite not being for her album, it still gives her promos, but you tried.
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She's done ONE remix with Beyoncé and being a rapper generally she's going to do more collaborations which further proves my point that Nicki is far more successful, more known, and more relevant than Lana which is what the thread asked.
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
Wow my comment really struck some nerves.
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This usually happens when someone is losing an argument 
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I see I got the girls fuming. Continue to seethe. 
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
TPP wasn't even released on BF weekend
And of course Lana would be much bigger WW she's a pop-artist |
Nicki is much more of a pop artist than Lana, who has so far released a Portishead-esque trip hop album and a bluesy rock album. Keep trying to make excuses, though.
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Originally posted by duybeeGAshantiGA
This usually happens when someone is losing an argument |
Seeing as how a lot of you have taken a lot of "L's" in this thread I'd the Lana fans are the ones losing the argument.
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Originally posted by uhoh-ohno
This thread has nothing to do with having "cohesive albums". It has to do with which female recording artist has made the biggest impact since 2010. Only when stanning for Lana does having massive hits somehow become a strike against other artists.
Fact: Nicki has more hits than Lana. Nicki probably has longer tour receipts than Lana. Nicki has more #1 albums than Lana. As for impact? Nicki has more endorsements than Lana, and these brands wouldn't be paying Nicki to promote their products if she didn't have impact. In terms of music impact, what was Fancy if not 2014's Superbase? Where would Iggy and Azealia be had Nicki reignited interest in female emcees? All Lana can boast over Nicki is BTD's sales. Meanwhile, Nicki's become a branded mogul with receipts in film, television, fashion, fragrance, pop, and hip-hop. All of which make her the biggest female artist to drop a debut album in the 2010's.
All of this, "Oh UV and Lana could have been so huge if she had promoted and made it more commercial" is for the birds. Could've, should've . . . didn't.
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You basically proved to me why and how Nicki's albums are being sold, by other means other than the music itself.
Lana only has the fking music and still manages to DELIVER and sell everytime, now if you dont think that's insane, I pity you. I pity you because the music industry has been the pits, the pop girls in order to sell they have to show a lil bit of ass to say the least, they have to PROMOTE AND PROMOTE their music, because you know why? because the music it's not very good to begin with.
When nicki puts out a cohesive album that tells a story full of emotion you call me.
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