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Discussion: Has katy overtaken Gaga's popularity?
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Originally posted by Rusty
In terms of fame, not a chance, especially outside the US. In terms of sales, Katy is racking up the single charts, but considering her super-era debuts with sales just above ARTPOP's shows she's not as far ahead as Katy stans want to pretend.
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Who said it's her super-era?
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read my sig and youll get clarification. also lets wait for the ww tour receipts
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Originally posted by lousaysthings
Who said it's her super-era?
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Coming off TD with all those number 1's and huge exposure, not to mention a movie, she was entering uncharted territory for her popularity/sales. And she opened with 286K.
I can't afford any more WPs right now, so make of that what you will.
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Originally posted by Rusty
Coming off TD with all those number 1's and huge exposure, not to mention a movie, she was entering uncharted territory for her popularity/sales. And she opened with 286K.
I can't afford any more WPs right now, so make of that what you will.
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This tbh. She had so much momentum coming into this era so the numbers were a bit disappointing.
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Originally posted by man*****
read my sig and youll get clarification. also lets wait for the ww tour receipts
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Wasn't Teenage Dream Katy's peak? . Artpop is comparable to One Of The Boys tbh, but this kinda comparisions are so stupid, katy is katy, stefani is stefani go with it.
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Originally posted by gagakyle
This tbh. She had so much momentum coming into this era so the numbers were a bit disappointing.
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It's the same thing as Cyndi/Madonna almost. Cyndi was the bigger star first, and had the acclaim and awards, but Madonna slowly took over and Cyndi was left behind. It's almost eerie how similar it is actually Gaga had such a big debut that she had nowhere to go but down. While Katy started off smaller and gradually got bigger and bigger. She had room to grow, which gives her a better chance for longevity in the future.
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I think people forget how HUGE Gaga was back through 2009 to early 2011. Everybody was playing her music, watching her videos, talking about her; she was a cultural phenomenon. Off course these 13-year-olds wouldn't know since they were like 9 years old.
That being said, I think she oversaturated her brand, and that hurt her a lot. While she's been decreasing in sales and cultural impact, Katy has gotten progressively better in terms of sales and impact. There is no denying that Katy is huge right now. And the fact that she's not involved in many controversies like Gaga was/is makes her success even more impressive.
I'd say she's not playing "catch up" right now. But taking in consideration Gaga's past impact, they're about the same level, but Katy's getting better and Gaga's going down.
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Originally posted by Rusty
Coming off TD with all those number 1's and huge exposure, not to mention a movie, she was entering uncharted territory for her popularity/sales. And she opened with 286K.
I can't afford any more WPs right now, so make of that what you will.
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Not really. Katy is like Rihanna. They sprint longer and farther. They don't front load and end prematurely. Opening big is an achievement, but the bigger achievement is sustaining the public's interest.
Mariah, for example, had #1 albums in the 90s, and was considered the biggest artist in the 90s, but she was never a mega opener until her later albums when she had enough stans to front-load her sales.
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No, I don't think Katy even has half of 410 Million Tour Gross, if she was so popular people would spend money on her tours. Tea is hot!
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Originally posted by Katy Perry
She will be the next Cyndi Lauper if she doesn't pull her **** together soon. It's the honest truth.
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Yep.
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Originally posted by Rodrighost
Wasn't Teenage Dream Katy's peak? . Artpop is comparable to One Of The Boys tbh, but this kinda comparisions are so stupid, katy is katy, stefani is stefani go with it.
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Gaga had a lot of momentum after TF(M) and sold really well for BTW (even if you want to subtract a portion of Amazon sales). TD was a massive era and her album sales were low considering that. Get it?
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
No, I don't think Katy even has half of 410 Million Tour Gross, if she was so popular people would spend money on her tours. Tea is hot!
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And if Gaga was so popular people would spend money on her music.
32 43 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 3,037
ARTPOP
74. Do What U Want (feat. R. Kelly) - Lady Gaga
90. Applause - Lady Gaga
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Originally posted by Ruben
I think people forget how HUGE Gaga was back through 2009 to early 2011. Everybody was playing her music, watching her videos, talking about her; she was a cultural phenomenon. Off course these 13-year-olds wouldn't know since they were like 9 years old.
That being said, I think she oversaturated her brand, and that hurt her a lot. While she's been decreasing in sales and cultural impact, Katy has gotten progressively better in terms of sales and impact. There is no denying that Katy is huge right now. And the fact that she's not involved in many controversies like Gaga was/is makes her success even more impressive.
I'd say she's not playing "catch up" right now. But taking in consideration Gaga's past impact, they're about the same level, but Katy's getting better and Gaga's going down.
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She did not really oversaturate her brand. She kinda destroyed it.
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Originally posted by pabloanxiety
And if Gaga was so popular people would spend money on her music.
32 43 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 3,037
ARTPOP
74. Do What U Want (feat. R. Kelly) - Lady Gaga
90. Applause - Lady Gaga
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Tickets to see an artist on tour are significantly higher than singles and albums
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Originally posted by TheGeoKing
No, I don't think Katy even has half of 410 Million Tour Gross, if she was so popular people would spend money on her tours. Tea is hot!
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Aren't Gaga's shows now down-sized and struggling to sell tickets? No one's questioning Gaga's peak. It was really huge and a definite moment in pop music, but the question of this thread is whether Katy has overtaken Gaga in popularity. Objectively, the ONLY answer is yes.
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Originally posted by Benghazi82
Not really. Katy is like Rihanna. They sprint longer and farther. They don't front load and end prematurely. Opening big is an achievement, but the bigger achievement is sustaining the public's interest.
Mariah, for example, had #1 albums in the 90s, and was considered the biggest artist in the 90s, but she was never a mega opener until her later albums when she had enough stans to front-load her sales.
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BTW's supersales debut were not from stans, that was the GP because of Gaga's immense popularity back then. You don't sell almost 2M in your first week WW from stans.
Katy being like Rihanna is sort of a non-comparison. Katy's on her third era only, and has been rising/still is rising to where she is now so it's impossible to say she's going to have the same type of sustainability with successful singles that Rihanna has had.
You use Mariah for comparison, I could use Britney - an artist who was the early 2000s and had mammoth openings for her two early 2000s records, and a pretty excellent opening for ITZ.
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Katy has definetly surpassed Gaga in popularity, though her peak is not as big as Gaga had from 2008 to 2011. It's very obvious who's more popular nowadays all you have to do is look at Billboard Hot 100 positions, Twitter followers, youtube views, and award nominations. The only thing Gaga fans have to cling onto is her album is outselling her a little bit WW and that she may or may not have a more successful tour.
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I have to admit it, yes.
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Originally posted by Benghazi82
Aren't Gaga's shows now down-sized and struggling to sell tickets? No one's questioning Gaga's peak. It was really huge and a definite moment in pop music, but the question of this thread is whether Katy has overtaken Gaga in popularity. Objectively, the ONLY answer is yes.
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Downsized in Europe from announced dates so far yes from Stadiums to Arenas, but the same US arena venues she's always played in, and the types of venues Katy has only ever played in and will play in again this time around. How on earth could that mean Katy is more popular based on this aspect?!
Her ticket sales are selling better than the BTWB in some venues, and about the same in others, though with the Gaga drags and shade nonstop around here (most often from her own stans!) you wouldn't think so. Her Europe sales haven't started yet, but if her last trip around Europe is an indication her sales there will hold just fine. It's likely she'll announce SA and Oceania dates too, and of course her Asian popularity >>>>>> any of the favs in this thread.
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