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Poll: Has Beyoncé's discography had any impact on pop music?
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View Poll Results: Has Beyoncé's discography had any impact on pop music?
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Yes 
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No 
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Originally posted by theerealest
Her music isn't her performing?? Anytime she sings she's performing, just cause you don't see her doesn't mean she isn't performing
And your whole quote in general lets me know that you either A. know nothing about Beyonce OR her music or B. You just know nothing about music period....
So in other words your opinion doesnt count
NEXT!
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Originally posted by swissman
And yet she was the Billboard Artist of the Decade.
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And the #1 Radio artist of the decade!
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no 
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It's really hard to say that she hasn't
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Originally posted by bijonse
Top Radio Songs artist of the decade tho???? but ok girl
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Radio Songs is the chart that includes all formats including Urbran radio and Rhythmic radio, charts where Beyoncé usually performs well in. I am talking about Pop Radio, where she doesn't do that well (relatively speaking). About a year ago, Billboard released a list of the Top Pop Radio Aritsts of the last twenty years. Beyoncé wasn't even in the Top 10 of Females. I'm sure if they made a list of that for urban radio she would be though
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Originally posted by Six
Once again, her having hits doesn't mean she actually changed anything in the industry. It solely means people liked those songs and liked her. Are you really that naive to think that the main reason a song smashes is due to the song itself? Do you know in what world we live in, right? You do know that our tastes (including music) are to a significant extent very influenced by marketing strategies? If you consider particularly pop girl's audience who consist of tweens, teens and children, they're even more susceptible to these approaches.
Beyonce is a brand, a very succesful one, there's no denial possible. People LOVE her and whorship her. But Beyonce the musician? That brand doesn't sell and she's not marketed that way for a reason. Yes, her album is selling like CRAZY but it's not because of her music.
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No, having hits doesn't mean that you're changing anything in the industry; however, in Bey's case, you couldn't be any more wrong.
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In 1998, the group issued its debut, Destiny's Child, which featured the hit "No, No, No" (Number Three, 1998). But it was 1999's The Writing's on the Wall that broke the bank, with "Bug a Boo" (Number 33, 1999), "Jumpin' Jumpin'" (Number Three, 1999), "Bills, Bills, Bills" (Number One, 1999), and perhaps most definitively with "Say My Name" (Number One, 2000). The definitive kiss-off song won two Grammys and featured a standout performance by Beyoncé, whose skittering, rhythmic, and hip-hop-derived approach to melody would help shift the entire landscape of R&B singing.
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- Rolling Stone
Shifted the entire landscape of R&B singing. That doesn't equate to changing "nothing" to me. Her vocal styling was and still is incredibly innovative and you're either ignorant of the genre or incredibly biased or delusional if you can't acknowledge.
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Originally posted by swissman
Let's post them if they exist.
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Off the top of my head (pre 1997)
Aaliyah-
Ya oh it's the liyah
Living up to the stage I got jazz personality,
G mentality peace to soul train
Aaliyah rap/sang all throughout her career
TLC-every song ever
Salt n Pepa
Every female in hip hop/rap ever.
You have to also understand that Beyonce/DC was birthed in the age where music was predominatly hip hop/rap. She may be the last one standing from that age but she was one of the late adopters of the trend .
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Originally posted by Ascension
No, having hits doesn't mean that you're changing anything in the industry; however, in Bey's case, you couldn't be any more wrong.
- Rolling Stone
Shifted the entire landscape of R&B singing. That doesn't equate to changing "nothing" to me. Her vocal styling was and still is incredibly innovative and you're either ignorant of the genre or incredibly biased or delusional if you can't acknowledge.
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Do you really need Rolling Stone to think for you? Can't you formulate your own opinions?
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Originally posted by FatShady
Off the top of my head (pre 1997)
Aaliyah-
Ya oh it's the liyah
Living up to the stage I got jazz personality,
G mentality peace to soul train
Aaliyah rap/sang all throughout her career
TLC-every song ever
Salt n Pepa
Every female in hip hop/rap ever.
You have to also understand that Beyonce/DC was birthed in the age where music was predominatly hip hop/rap. She may be the last one standing from that age but she was one of the late adopters of the trend .
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That's a melodic flow on Back and Forth. Very different from what DC did on No No No.
TLC sang in the same traditional melodic fashion over hip hop beats and Left Eye rapped separately.
Salt N Pepa were rappers, not singers. As were all other female rappers.
Anyone else?
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Originally posted by Six
Do you really need Rolling Stone to think for you? Can't you formulate your own opinions?
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Did you see my original post? There were lots of my own opinions as well as receipts.
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Originally posted by OnlyManInTheWorld
The video had not that many views on YT. It exploded after the VMAs. The song itself was overrated.
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It was a phenemenon as everybody was making a video of the choreography. The song itself is very overrated, never liked it.
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Originally posted by Ascension
Did you see my original post? There were lots of my own opinions as well as receipts.
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Stay pressed as much as you like but I'm sticking with my own opinion that Beyonce did NOT change the music industry. All she did was CONFORM and CONTINUE to spread what pop music has been doing since it was installed: objectifying women to make profit.
I'm out.
(Sorry to crash all of your dreams tho)
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Yes. 
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Originally posted by Six
Beyonce isn't famous for her music. Her music means nothing. She's only about the image and the performance. So, obviously no, her music did nothing so far. She's not really a musician really. Her performances YES, they've made a HUGE impact but she could be singing her songs or somebody else's, it wouldn't matter.
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The poll disagrees
The Grammys disagree
The world disagrees
The Obamas disagree
Her ASCAP writing award disagrees
You did  "try" tho
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Originally posted by Ascension
That's a melodic flow on Back and Forth. Very different from what DC did on No No No.
TLC sang in the same traditional melodic fashion over hip hop beats and Left Eye rapped separately.
Salt N Pepa were rappers, not singers. As were all other female rappers.
Anyone else?
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We're splitting hairs here dahling. Point is its all rap singing dahling everyone does it their own way it doesn't mean its new.
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Originally posted by Aleks
This is nicely made  I don't see any BEYONCE songs on there though. |
The ignorance of anyone who tries to discredit Beyonce when using receipts from the Destiny's Child era.
Cackling at this
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Originally posted by Six
Stay pressed as much as you like but I'm sticking with my own opinion that Beyonce did NOT change the music industry. All she did was CONFORM and CONTINUE to spread what pop music has been doing since it was installed: objectifying women to make profit.
I'm out.
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Chile, what? OK, so you can't negate her musical contributions and are now spewing nonsense. I guess I can't expect anything from someone who stans for a person whose greatest pop culture contribution was wearing ties over tank tops.
Thanks for playing tho!
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Originally posted by FatShady
Off the top of my head (pre 1997)
Aaliyah-
Ya oh it's the liyah
Living up to the stage I got jazz personality,
G mentality peace to soul train
Aaliyah rap/sang all throughout her career
TLC-every song ever
Salt n Pepa
Every female in hip hop/rap ever.
You have to also understand that Beyonce/DC was birthed in the age where music was predominatly hip hop/rap. She may be the last one standing from that age but she was one of the late adopters of the trend .
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You don't even understand the fundamentals of legato vs staccato.
Aaliyah used a legato vocal styling all throughout her career, minus maybe Your Love Is a One in a Million.
Salt N Peppa are RAPPERS. 
Not singers incorporating a rapid-fire staccato formation to vocal melodic lines.
TLC also sang very one or the other.
IN FACT, No Scrubs, a song that contains mainly staccato phrasing, came AFTER Destiny's Child.
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Has Beyoncé had any impact on pop music? Yes.
Jordin Sparks's 'Tattoo', Chris Brown's 'With You' & Rihanna's 'Hate That I Love' were all copycats of Beyoncé's Irreplaceable.
P!nk's 'There You Go', Mya's 'Case of The Ex' and several more were all copycats to 'Bills Bills Bills'
Ameriie's 'One Thing' sounded a lot like Legend in Love.
It's foolish to say she has made no impact on pop music when there are so many clones and new artists saying Bey is a huge inspiration.
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Originally posted by Ascension
Chile, what? OK, so you can't negate her musical contributions and are now spewing nonsense. I guess I can't expect anything from someone who stans for a person whose greatest pop culture contribution was wearing ties over tank tops.
Thanks for playing tho!
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At least that someone actually made music that actually changed something.
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