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Poll: Most Undeserved AOTY Win of Past 10 Years
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View Poll Results: Most Undeserved Win?
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Come Away With Me - Norah Jones
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3 |
0.74% |
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Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - OutKast
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12 |
2.97% |
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Genius Loves Company - Ray Charles and Various Artists
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6 |
1.49% |
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How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb - U2
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12 |
2.97% |
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Taking the Long Way - Dixie Chicks
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10 |
2.48% |
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River: The Joni Letters - Herbie Hancock
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40 |
9.90% |
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Raising Sand - Robert Plant & Alison Krauss
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9 |
2.23% |
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Fearless - Taylor Swift
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220 |
54.46% |
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The Suburbs - Arcade Fire
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57 |
14.11% |
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21 - Adele
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35 |
8.66% |
Member Since: 6/1/2010
Posts: 65,177
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Originally posted by J03Y
yeah. don't get me wrong, i knew Loud wasn't going to get it at all, no one takes Rihanna seriously enough to give it to her at the moment. but i did honestly think Loud had more of a chance at getting the award than 21 did. i was strongly against 21 getting the award. i didn't even care if Born This Way didn't get it, i just didn't want Adele to get it.
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If you thought Loud, which had less acclaim and was less successful, had a chance at taking the Grammy, then you really have no idea about how the Grammys work. Loud was filler and had no chance at taking the trophy, whether you thought it was more deserving or not.
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Member Since: 4/20/2012
Posts: 11,335
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Originally posted by Shapes
Yes. The Fame is better than Fearless. It deserved AOTY more than Fearless did.
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this, even though i was opposed to it being nominated in the first place. still am. i might be a Monster, but i can still recognize that the Fame was and is ****** as an album. and yet i still think Fame could've beaten Fearless still. that says so much.
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Member Since: 5/1/2012
Posts: 10,570
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River: The Joni Letters - Herbie Hancock
Raising Sand - Robert Plant & Alison Krauss
I don't hate these albums, but had best albums in those years in my opinion.
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Member Since: 11/29/2010
Posts: 19,664
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Originally posted by Shapes
All three of those were "legacy" awards. Is that necessarily fair? Not really, but the quality of those albums greatly surpasses Fearless
We all know why Fearless won. Let's not get into it.
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Because it had the best combination of sales and critics? Lol.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 9/26/2001
Posts: 22,475
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Originally posted by B94
That's opinionated though, think of everyone else who thought otherwise. It won AOTY for a reason.  The only other album I could think of that deserved AOTY as well is Ceremonials. |
Oh, come on. Even though I think that 21 was a deserving winner, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy CERTAINLY would have been a deserving winner, and Wasting Light was a fellow nominee that would have been a deserving winner as well.
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Member Since: 11/2/2009
Posts: 19,838
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Originally posted by emmanuel_punk
Norah. she's irrelevant 0 impact no one knows her Avril's 'Let Go' should win instead.
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Oh my gosh. 
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Member Since: 10/31/2011
Posts: 16,937
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Originally posted by Shapes
It's basically true. Look at this poll. If you go around and ask most people who follow the Grammys, they'll say Taylor didn't deserve it.
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Well I can't refute this as I won't go out and find most people who follow the Grammys and ask them. Obviously you have, so you win. 
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Member Since: 6/8/2008
Posts: 24,791
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Why does everyone always get on Taylor's case? Go to Metacritic and look at her scores compared to the OTHER nominees that year plus the impact her album had with sales, it's quite clear why she won, you all are so bitter.
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Member Since: 5/17/2012
Posts: 1,119
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Originally posted by J03Y
yeah. don't get me wrong, i knew Loud wasn't going to get it at all, no one takes Rihanna seriously enough to give it to her at the moment. but i did honestly think Loud had more of a chance at getting the award than 21 did. i was strongly against 21 getting the award. i didn't even care if Born This Way didn't get it, i just didn't want Adele to get it.
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The last part sounds like you're a little pressed, but I agree with the fact that Wasting Light, Born This Way and even Loud should've won.
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Member Since: 4/20/2012
Posts: 11,335
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
If you thought Loud, which had less acclaim and was less successful, had a chance at taking the Grammy, then you really have no idea about how the Grammys work. Loud was filler and had no chance at taking the trophy, whether you thought it was more deserving or not.
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read the rest of my post please, i acknowledged it wasn't going to get the award, i just didn't think 21 deserved it. i exaggerated by saying i thought Loud had a better chance at winning it. i still understood it was never going to, but i still wanted to believe Adele didn't have a chance.
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Member Since: 3/5/2012
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Originally posted by emmanuel_punk
Norah. she's irrelevant 0 impact no one knows her Avril's 'Let Go' should win instead.
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She's irrelevant yet has a diamond album in the US and has sold over 40M albums worldwide and has won 9 Grammys? 
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 10/3/2010
Posts: 12,334
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Originally posted by Great Username
Well I can't refute this as I won't go out and find most people who follow the Grammys and ask them. Obviously you have, so you win. |
Thank you. Good debate 
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Member Since: 9/18/2011
Posts: 30,431
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Originally posted by Stepfon
Why does everyone always get on Taylor's case? Go to Metacritic and look at her scores compared to the OTHER nominees that year plus the impact her album had with sales, it's quite clear why she won, you all are so bitter.
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Exactly 
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Member Since: 10/31/2011
Posts: 16,937
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I don't even give a **** about The Grammys. Most of the albums on that list are frightfully average. I give a **** about people tossing out remarks about Fearless which they never seem to have the ability to back up. The same happened in that thread I linked to  Everybody cleared out the moment they were challenged.
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Member Since: 5/17/2012
Posts: 1,119
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Originally posted by Stepfon
Why does everyone always get on Taylor's case? Go to Metacritic and look at her scores compared to the OTHER nominees that year plus the impact her album had with sales, it's quite clear why she won, you all are so bitter.
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Fearless had a 73 while The Fame had a 71. The Fame has sold 15 million copies worldwide and Fearless has sold a little less than 9 million.
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Member Since: 5/1/2012
Posts: 10,570
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In Rainbows or Viva La Vida should have won in 2009.. 
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Member Since: 10/31/2011
Posts: 16,937
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Originally posted by Shapes
Thank you. Good debate |
Now, in regards to this...?
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Originally posted by Great Username
I remember now. You called it "shallow". You did not elaborate. You also said The E.N.D. deserved it more than Fearless. You did not elaborate.
I on the other hand gave some indepth thoughts. None of which you replied to. You cleared out of the thread on page 2.
http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=200440 |
And your comments about it obviously being a sympathy win and everyone who isn't a delusional Taylor stan agrees?
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Member Since: 4/21/2011
Posts: 1,785
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Originally posted by Shapes
Yes. The Fame is better than Fearless. It deserved AOTY more than Fearless did.
It's not brainwash, it's just manipulating people and their empathy. It's easy to do, it's done every year with Grammys, Oscars, Golden Globes, etc. Especially when someone has had something embarrassing or tragic happen to them around awards season
It's basically true. Look at this poll. If you go around and ask most people who follow the Grammys, they'll say Taylor didn't deserve it.
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Oh really? I don't recall hearing many people saying that after she won. 
And yes, an ATRL poll of about 100 members is definitely an accurate representation of the general population.
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Member Since: 3/18/2008
Posts: 40,057
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Fearless, for sure. Weak album, especially compared with the other nominees that year.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/8/2006
Posts: 42,086
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Fearless is the definition of TRASH
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