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Album: Katy Perry - 'Teenage Dream: The Complete Confection'
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OMG, really??? I don't have TV, I only watched Katy's part live stream, hahaha... oops. Sorry guys... weird. I honestly can't name any other performer from the Grammy's... LMAO!
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c0z Wii R b0rN disZ wEii~
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Member Since: 6/2/2011
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Originally posted by Teen Dreamer
With the new HOT100 formula it's a lot harder to debut at #1 now.
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a #1 DEBUT is impossible in every way!
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She doesn't, but we should still vote for her.
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It's not true! Katy writes many of her songs! It was just a pressed soul that had a meltdown!
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NOT. She co-wrote all of her songs except If We Ever Meet Again. 
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Originally posted by SylMacPer
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a #1 DEBUT is impossible in every way!
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Have we knew the new formula yet? Propotion or simple all format combination?
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Originally posted by Anderson
Have we knew the new formula yet? Propotion or simple all format combination?
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Billboard, Nielsen and NARM's digitalmusic.org announced today the launch of the first-ever subscription services "On-Demand Songs" chart, and that this data will also be included in the Billboard Hot 100. On-demand streaming data is now factored into the chart's ranking, enhancing a formula that includes digital download track sales and physical singles sales, as tracked by Nielsen SoundScan; as well as radio airplay and other streaming services, as tracked by Nielsen BDS.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
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#1 debuts are not impossible. But they are for songs released after the album is.
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Lol Firework is already above POM in some countries.
#signaturehit
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Lol Firework is already above POM in some countries.
#signaturehit
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Part of Me being **** doesn't dethrone I Kissed a Girl, Hot n Cold or California Gurls, all of which are above firework in the minds of the public (i.e. the people who matter).
Saying "Biggest Hit = Signature Song" is basically saying "Like a Prayer isn't Madonnas signature song" (Even though Firework isn't Katys biggest worldwide hit, but whatever.)
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Originally posted by Anderson
Have we knew the new formula yet? Propotion or simple all format combination?
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a new formula allows On-Demand songs (mp3 streaming on sites and apps such as Spotify and Yahoo Music) to be added to the equation which takes into consideration digital downloads and physical CD purchases, radio airplays and YouTube views.
the new formula was decided to make On-Demand a major part, almost equal to how much digital downloads make up the list and since mp3 streaming is so varied (or essentially it is. there are a lot of people nowadays who give either underground or fairly known artists so much play counts on their streaming profiles), it counts so much for artists other than Katy (who mostly racks in the downloads and airplay rather than target for the hipsters on Spotify), which does essentially make it more difficult to get a #1 debut, it makes it difficult to get a #1 single at that. 'We Are Young' was #1 for weeks before it bowed to Gotye because of On-Demand. so yes, this has a considerable amount of influence on the charts.
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Originally posted by Benjamin
Part of Me being **** doesn't dethrone I Kissed a Girl, Hot n Cold or California Gurls.
Saying "Biggest Hit = Signature Song" is basically saying "Like a Prayer isn't Madonnas signature song" (Even though Firework isn't Katys biggest worldwide hit, but whatever.) |
Yeah, but that's the song people recognize as 'the Katy Perry song'. In 9th grade a few of my friends were telling me that they were doing California Gurls in the school's lip-syncing competition (my school was weird) and me and my other friend agreed "if you're doing a Katy Perry song, why not do Firework?" I don't know why, but that's the song how most people know her.
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Originally posted by Benjamin
Part of Me being **** doesn't dethrone I Kissed a Girl, Hot n Cold or California Gurls.
Saying "Biggest Hit = Signature Song" is basically saying "Like a Prayer isn't Madonnas signature song" (Even though Firework isn't Katys biggest worldwide hit, but whatever.) |
It's her signature hit.
Most nominated at awards show. (Video Of The Year)
Almost 300 million YouTube views.
Most favorable from critics.
Biggest longevity with sales and airplay.
Her most performed song.
It was at the end of the CDT.
Katy Perry and many other people consider it her signature song.
And it did all that as a 3rd single. 
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
It's her signature hit.
Most nominated at awards show. (Video Of The Year)
Almost 300 million YouTube views.
Most favorable from critics.
Biggest longevity with sales and airplay.
Her most performed song.
It was at the end of the CDT.
Katy Perry and many other people consider it her signature song.
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and not to mention, Firework is around 5.5 million US Sales, still in the top 200 on iTunes (#175 I believe), so it's still selling about 7,000-8,000 per week. and it will probably get a slight boost around the "fooooourttthhh of Jullyyyyyyy"
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Originally posted by J03Y
a new formula allows On-Demand songs (mp3 streaming on sites and apps such as Spotify and Yahoo Music) to be added to the equation which takes into consideration digital downloads and physical CD purchases, radio airplays and YouTube views.
the new formula was decided to make On-Demand a major part, almost equal to how much digital downloads make up the list and since mp3 streaming is so varied (or essentially it is. there are a lot of people nowadays who give either underground or fairly known artists so much play counts on their streaming profiles), it counts so much for artists other than Katy (who mostly racks in the downloads and airplay rather than target for the hipsters on Spotify), which does essentially make it more difficult to get a #1 debut, it makes it difficult to get a #1 single at that. 'We Are Young' was #1 for weeks before it bowed to Gotye because of On-Demand. so yes, this has a considerable amount of influence on the charts.
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Thanks for your explanation.
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 Can't believe you lot underestimate I Kissed a Girl and California Gurls that much. 
Yes, the song which would sound better sung by P!nk or Kelly Clarkson, with the Lady Gaga message and the most un-Katy Perry like production that any Katy Perry song has had ever is Katy's signature song. Well done y'all.
Llike it or not, Katy's signature song has to be a Dr. Luke song. That's her signature sound.
Awards and Sales make a signature song....
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Originally posted by Anderson
Thanks for your explanation.
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yw, any time
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Originally posted by Benjamin
Can't believe you lot underestimate I Kissed a Girl and California Gurls that much.
Yes, the song which would sound better sung by P!nk or Kelly Clarkson, with the Lady Gaga message and the most un-Katy Perry like production that any Katy Perry song has had ever is Katy's signature song. Well done y'all.
Llike it or not, Katy's signature song has to be a Dr. Luke song. That's her signature sound.
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that's her signature formula and structure, but Firework was the most praised by the public and critics. that and E.T. were her two most publicly praised songs. and those were the two out of her commercially successful signature structure. yes people recognize her for IKAG and CG, but the first songs that people think of are Firework and E.T.
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Originally posted by Benjamin
Can't believe you lot underestimate I Kissed a Girl and California Gurls that much.
Yes, the song which would sound better sung by P!nk or Kelly Clarkson, with the Lady Gaga message and the most un-Katy Perry like production that any Katy Perry song has had ever is Katy's signature song. Well done y'all.
Llike it or not, Katy's signature song has to be a Dr. Luke song. That's her signature sound.
Awards and Sales make a signature song.... |
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Originally posted by J03Y
that's her signature formula and structure, but Firework was the most praised by the public and critics. that and E.T. were her two most publicly praised songs. and those were the two out of her commercially successful signature structure. yes people recognize her for IKAG and CG, but the first songs that people think of are Firework and E.T.
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I think you can validate all 3 as being her signature. IKAG was a complete monster. Anytime someone starts off saying "I kissed a girl", your mind automatically goes "and I liked it". There's so many references to it, including a Kanye verse on the song "Haters" with Jayz: "How much they hate it? Very. Kiss girls like Katy Perry". She even referenced it herself in The Smurfs. Every time she gets introduced on award shows people always call her "the California Girl" or reference the whip cream shooting bra from the video. And Firework was played absolutely everywhere from movie trailers to the Macy's 4th of July Spectacular this past year. And when I see a floating plastic bag I can't help but think of it 
Katy is synonymous with those 3 songs, but Teenage Dream is still her best 
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Member Since: 10/10/2011
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Another signature song fight.  you guys, Katy has many signature songs. We need to deal with that. 
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KATY PERRY IS #8 ON FORBES, RAKING IN $45M LAST YEAR